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AMD Based Apple Laptop?

xVeinx said:
And one more thing....

Introducing the Macbook mini AMD edition!

AMD 4x4 processors at 2.6ghz
Nvidia 4x4 compatible chipset
AMD x1950 graphics w/ 512 memory
12in sxga screen
Superdrive
2 gigs memory standard

Liquid Nitrogen not included...

:p
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Some Dvorak love.


I mean, I'm up for MORE CORES. It's just I haven't saturated my Core Duo to 100% yet.

In before Multimedia. :rolleyes:
 
PODshady said:
Correct me if I am wrong.... but if Apple switches to AMD processors wouldn't they have to rewrite their apps again to work with AMD as they had to do with the Intel switch
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No.

That was one reason why the switch to Intel was a good move. If Intel failed to deliver (with the Core 2 CPUs), then Apple had an alternative supplier they can switch to.

While the Apple/Intel contract probably gives Intel exclutivity in the Mac line, the contract will not last forever. If Intel stuffs up, or fails to give Apple a good deal come renewal time (of if AMD pull some real interesting tech out of the hat) then Apple can switch with little effort on the software front.

Unlike with the G5 Power range, Apple now have alternative suppliers. Competition is good for the customer. Without AMDs fine rnage of products Intel would never have had the incentive to produce the Core 2 range and we would be stuck with the gawd-aweful Netburst P4 architecture.
 
this may have been mentioned before, and if so I'm sorry.

But it is entirely possible that because of the sources checkered (to say the least) history that this is a piece of insided information that was misinterpretted.

It could entirely be the case that simply Apple is planning on buying more ATI video cards. This could be for use in iTV, or even dedicated graphics (please please please) in the lower end machines: MacBook/Mini.

just a thought, but possible I s'pose.
 
thejadedmonkey said:
Personally, I would be surprised if they didn't eventually use AMD CPU's.

1. Digg had an article on AMD's line of upcoming CPU's which are CPU's and GPU's on one die. Given Apple's history of pushing more and more onto the video cards, this new line seems perfect for Apple.

Link: http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MjI0OTUsLCxobmV3cywsLDE=

P.S. Just went to digg to get the link, and AMD is moving to 65nm in 2007. faster, less heat.
Link: http://hardocp.com/news.html?news=MjI0OTcsLCxobmV3cywsLDE=
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Thank you for providing those interesting links and slides of AMDs future roadmap, this should go well with Anandtech article (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2379&p=12) and the fact that AMD just released a stream processor board (http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/11/14/amd_stream_processor/) to show all the people that CELL processor is the blueprint for future processor development and well ahead of it's time. It will require new programming techniques and algorithms but we will also see new levels of performance. And yes, I am a CELL processor fan boy, 5 years from now everyone will be without even realizing it. :p

EDIT: Ah I almost forgot, AMD and IBM have a close relationship, they have worked and are working on many projects so I guess there might be some connection in it afterall.
 
Crike .40 said:
It could entirely be the case that simply Apple is planning on buying more ATI video cards. This could be for use in iTV, or even dedicated graphics (please please please) in the lower end machines: MacBook/Mini.

just a thought, but possible I s'pose.
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ATI/NVidia have ever so slightly better integrated solutions then Intel.
 
esaleris said:
There is absolutely no, no, no way that Intel did not enter a contractual agreement with Apple that explicitly prohibits or deters Apple from using AMD's competitive products.
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Given that there is a major lawsuit between AMD and Intel going on right now where AMD claims that Intel has been using its monopoly through exactly that kind of behavior, you can be assured that no such agreement exists.

That said, there is value in having a good relationship with a supplier, and there is value in being able to use the same designs in all products. AMD would have to produce something quite amazing for Apple to switch over.
 
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Why? AMD's laptop CPU's suck....power that is. Please god no. The Core line has a VERY bright future. That coupled with the DEEP discounts that Apple is most certainly getting makes an AMD migration stupid.

What this move might be about is memory. AMD isn't just about CPU's. They make other chips as well. That and with the ATI buyout Apple may be courting AMD to continue to have access to ATI's wares. At any rate I just don't see this happening. Go to Apple's site. Intel's name is plastered all over the freaking place. Apple isn't going to rain on such a relationship 1 year after establishing it.
 
AMD does not have the ability to produce enough chips. Period. They have sold their soul to Dell, and Dell will suck them bone dry.

Not gunna happen.
 
nem3015 said:
Maybe AMDs for the low end lines and Core 2 Duo for the high end? What about a Mac Mini with dual AMD X2 for less than $400 with ATI graphic? :D
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Sort of what I was thinking. A Turion x2 or maybe an upcoming dual core Sempron (the current one runs pretty cool). Might put the mini back at a $499 starting price.
 
I'll throw up at the notion of having a Turion in any apple. Those things blow.
 
imacintel said:
I will never buy an AMD computer again, especially in a laptop. AMDs are very hot processors and they require big fans(I learn that from my bro's Compaq), which make them thick and heavy.

It would be best for me if we could of kept PowerPC, developed a lower powerconsuming but stil powerful G5, or Xenon(chip in XBOX 360). But intel is still got...PPC for LIFE
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My presario v2000 has amd2.0ghz turion64. It is the same thickness as my wife's g4 ibook. It isn't near as hot as powerbooks.
-Chuck
 
Store's down

Maybe the AMD laptops are coming today :eek:

The store is currently down...
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villanova329 said:
Do they have to remake a new "Universal Binary?" Because aren't the current UB's for Intel and PPC? Please tell me they wont. I don't wnat to have to wait again for new UB's
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No. The AMD processors we're talking about have the same instruction set as the Intel processors Apple is currently using; in fact, the 64 bit extensions were written by AMD, not Intel (Intel's original 64-bit solution is Itanium, which on the seamier side of the computer trade - for instance, in the Register - is called the Itanic, because it is still sinking; eventually, Intel was forced to adopt AMD's extensions because the architecture is more compatible with the Pentium/x86 architecture).

Such a switch would be comparable in terms of technological impact to the switch from IBM for the G3 to Motorola for the G4, and then to IBM for the G5.

Now, if Apple switched to Intel Itanium or (if it were ever released again) the Digital Alpha, yes, a new form of Universal Binary would be needed. I suspect that the Cell processor is not completely compatible with the G5, so it's possible that a switch to Cell would require a new form of UB, too.
 
Nope. Wouldn't put the store down at 5:30 pm on a Thursday (EST) for maintenance. My money is on either a major failure (unlikely) or a PRODUCT(RED) MacBook.

EDIT:

Or, come to think of it, Quad Core Mac Pros.
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awe dude now ive gotta stay up and find out! (its 10:30pm UK time!)
 
So annoying newbs just spamming threads about this. there are seven right now.

come to think of it, though it's porbably phil who spilled soda into the server, i gotta wait up till midnight dansih time, to see if anything interesting happened
 
imacintel said:
I will never buy an AMD computer again, especially in a laptop. AMDs are very hot processors and they require big fans(I learn that from my bro's Compaq), which make them thick and heavy.

It would be best for me if we could of kept PowerPC, developed a lower powerconsuming but stil powerful G5, or Xenon(chip in XBOX 360). But intel is still got...PPC for LIFE
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Intel used to be hotter than AMD for a long time until they came up with Core Duo.

NamJangNamJa said:
Intel used to be hotter than AMD for a long time until they came up with Core Duo.
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Nevermind, as far as, intel has been always cooler than AMD in the laptop world.
 
vendettabass said:
awe dude now ive gotta stay up and find out! (its 10:30pm UK time!)
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If it makes you sleepier, I don't have any inside information - I don't even know anyone who works at an Apple Store. I could be wrong, but it makes no sense to me that anyone would put down their online store on a Thursday afternoon a month and a half before Christmas unless it was a product update (well, frankly, I don't understand why Apple product updates on the Store work the way they do, but ).

[EDIT: Apparently, I am all wet. Looks like it was just a facelift.]

Third possibility: Mac mini Core 2 Duo - Apple Insider said there was a link to a page for them but no page.
 
If AMD has cheaper chips than Intel that also fully support Rosetta and all that (SSE3), then I may see it happening.
 
Digtimes goshdarn!

You will have better luck following your Fart than what Dig Times says!
Regarsds--- jgurbisz
 
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