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Amen to that. I think this picture is a good indicator that they've taken care of it.

Tuck

Funny thing is, I never noticed this until a few weeks ago when I was at Home Depot trying to take a pic of rug and I kept getting the blueish circle in the middle of my pic. I was like, what the heck, thought the camera had gone bad.
 
I believe the 4S still has a rolling shutter so it could possibly be motion blur but DoF might be more likely.

Doesn't seem like much time or effort was put into getting a good photo of the bill though. I'm sure a little more effort, steadier hands and a better focus would produce a better result.

One of the awesome features of having adaptable software for the iPhone camera is that there are apps out there that can take shaking into account (by using the accelerometer) and only take a picture when the camera is not moving around. Camera+ and Camera One are two that I have that do this very well and you end up with a much sharper image than without using the feature.

To me, the software apps that can use the camera is the best part of the iPhone camera and the advanced hardware in the 4S will only make these better.

Tuck
 
I disagree. I've never seen a photo from a $200 (or even $300 for that matter) Android phone with photos that look this good. Outdoor shots, yes, but indoor, no.

And you, most likely, have not been looking either. Right? :- )

That said, the camera - finally - seems to be what it ought to be on a high-end device that the iphone sets out to be. Will be nice to see how it does compared to the camera on the Nokia N8 (and, of course, the Nokia devices to be announced come end of October).

(hopefully this device comes through on color accuracy and such too. would be a shame otherwise).
 
Funny thing is, I never noticed this until a few weeks ago when I was at Home Depot trying to take a pic of rug and I kept getting the blueish circle in the middle of my pic. I was like, what the heck, thought the camera had gone bad.

It seems to only happen under fluorescent light, but it is very apparent when you take a picture under those conditions. Back when I first got my iPhone, I asked them to switch it out for me at an Apple Store but they compared it to their in-store reference model and it had the same issue. It plagued every iPhone 4.

Tuck
 
I am waiting to see if someone will take a picture of white background under fluorescent lighting. Will that green dot appear? That's the question.
 
The current iphone 4 already takes absolutely gorgeous pictures so I can imagine what the 4S can do. I was looking for a digital camera for my girlfriend last year and not one and I mean not one camera at Best Buy could compete with the quality of the iphone 4. Now even a $500.00 Sony cyber shot.
 
Taking quick on the go photos with my iPhone 4 camera (which is what normally phone cameras are used for) is no where even close to even cheaper point and shoot dedicated cameras with real-life amateur-taken shots. I don't know if just because point and shoot cameras are more ergonomically designed to hold properly with hardware shoot buttons or just are designed for better lower light quality, but certainly my actual experience taking photos from this is not great.

I remain skeptical about the 4S real life camera shots, although camra quality is not really an important factor in my phone purchasing decision.

Tony
 
My iP4 still takes amazingly good pictures under the right lighting conditions, but I can see the advantage of having more pixels.

advantage isnt more pixels, its more (accurately reflected) detail. i'd be quite fine with 5mp if it came with kickass optics.
 
The current iphone 4 already takes absolutely gorgeous pictures so I can imagine what the 4S can do. I was looking for a digital camera for my girlfriend last year and not one and I mean not one camera at Best Buy could compete with the quality of the iphone 4. Now even a $500.00 Sony cyber shot.

I think all the newer P&S trying to add features that end up making your pictures worse then the older models. I returned 5 cameras to Costco because I was unhappy with them. I think the iPhone IMO is set perfect for what I want in a photo so to me the iPhone takes better pics. I know with the better P&S cameras you can mess with the settings and get better pics, but to me I don't wanna mess with all that crap. I just want to take my camera out and snap a pic.

For reference, the settings I hate on P&S is the whole Auto Scene setting that they want you to use. Makes pics look like crap if you ask me. Only option away form this setting is the "manual" mode where you can get decent pics.
 
not bad

well, it isn't going to beat my canon 5D + zeiss primes but then again I can't make calls and browse the web with that camera or even come close to putting it in my pocket. It's going to be great to have this little thing everywhere I go... now how to prevent the lens from getting scratched?.... might have to get an otter box for this one :rolleyes:
 
I think all the newer P&S trying to add features that end up making your pictures worse then the older models. I returned 5 cameras to Costco because I was unhappy with them. I think the iPhone IMO is set perfect for what I want in a photo so to me the iPhone takes better pics. I know with the better P&S cameras you can mess with the settings and get better pics, but to me I don't wanna mess with all that crap. I just want to take my camera out and snap a pic.

For reference, the settings I hate on P&S is the whole Auto Scene setting that they want you to use. Makes pics look like crap if you ask me. Only option away form this setting is the "manual" mode where you can get decent pics.
I actually held back on upgrading my current P&S because its successor has more megapixels and more features and as a result takes lower quality pictures.
 
I have shot full time for a living for over two decades, done very well. After shooting digital for nearly 18 years, I have gone mostly back to film for fine art and some magazine work, but I do pull out the digital for certain things.

Megapixels matter, to a point. What the iPhone has over many digital cameras, including my high end Nikons and even my new fave, the Fuji X100, is "Mojo".

It just has a unique combo of enough resolution paired with a sharp lens and a great way of drawing in light. When in Paris last year, I encountered a large protest that had blocked off a major intersection. I was in my 6th and final year on a book project shot on film, I only had my iPhone4 as a digital. I shot the protest and moved the photos to my agency in New York, we made three newspaper covers and made several other sales due to speed over file size.

But the best return on my iPhone investment came this year with a show of 22 images from my phone, most were 9" x 9" prints but we also did two 30" x 30" prints that held up fantastic. I made enough money off of this show to pay for new iPhones for many years to come.

Out of some 8 cameras in three formats, the iPhone 4 is one of my favorites. So since I am holding out for the 5, I ordered my wife the 4S. And folks, it does not matter how many megapixels it has, all that will ever matter is how talented you are and how you see the world.

No where have I read of whether Steve Jobs is into photography at all, but I did read that he was the photographer for Larry Ellison's 4th wedding. That's not a task that a casual shooter would want to take on even with the equipment that Steve could afford.
 
well, it isn't going to beat my canon 5D + zeiss primes but then again I can't make calls and browse the web with that camera or even come close to putting it in my pocket. It's going to be great to have this little thing everywhere I go... now how to prevent the lens from getting scratched?.... might have to get an otter box for this one :rolleyes:
I had the same thought. The only thing scratched on my current iPhone is the camera lens.
 
Excuse my ignorance, but I've seen quotes similar to this several times and don't really get it. IF you plan on staying with your current carrier AND you currently own an iPhone4, doesn't it make sense to sell your iPhone4 for $300+ dollars and use that money to get an iPhone 4S? I personally think the people that don't do this are the yahoos (unless you really want to have a backup iPhone just in case, which is understandable).

No you don't get it, but don't worry plenty don't aswell.

The point is the phone does not cost $300, by upgrading you are extending your obligations to the provider for 24 months, you will be paying for the cost of the phone throghout that peroid.
 
saw this on Thom Hogan's site

Apple's iPhone Camera ASIC
Oct 5 (news and commentary)--"Whether you're excited or disappointed about yesterday's iPhone 4S announcement, there's one little bit that the camera makers can't be happy about: Apple is building their own dedicated camera ASIC and adding it to the iPhone.

From Apple's statements it appears that this initial iteration is not focused on image conversion or final pixels, but on improving the acquisition itself: shortening the shutter lag and improving things like face detection autofocus. Still, now that the barrier has broken, we're going to see more and more things get stuffed into the ASIC and removed from the main (now dual core) CPU, I think. HDR, sweep panorama, distortion and other corrections may end up in the province of that chip, making the iPhone line more like a compact camera inside a phone than just an imaging sensor inside a phone.

At 8mp with BSI technology, the image results are going to get closer to some of the low-end compacts, too. Wait until the phone makers start to figure out folding optics: that'll allow larger sensors and more sophisticated lenses. The nail is on the coffin and being hammered now. It's only a matter of time."

Link;

http://bythom.com/2011 Nikon News.htm
 
The EXIF data with this photo looks suspicious

ISO 80, f 2.4 and an exposure of 1/40 of a second are what I get for the EXIF data.
 
Apple's iPhone Camera ASIC
Oct 5 (news and commentary)--"Whether you're excited or disappointed about yesterday's iPhone 4S announcement, there's one little bit that the camera makers can't be happy about: Apple is building their own dedicated camera ASIC and adding it to the iPhone.

From Apple's statements it appears that this initial iteration is not focused on image conversion or final pixels, but on improving the acquisition itself: shortening the shutter lag and improving things like face detection autofocus. Still, now that the barrier has broken, we're going to see more and more things get stuffed into the ASIC and removed from the main (now dual core) CPU, I think. HDR, sweep panorama, distortion and other corrections may end up in the province of that chip, making the iPhone line more like a compact camera inside a phone than just an imaging sensor inside a phone.

At 8mp with BSI technology, the image results are going to get closer to some of the low-end compacts, too. Wait until the phone makers start to figure out folding optics: that'll allow larger sensors and more sophisticated lenses. The nail is on the coffin and being hammered now. It's only a matter of time."

Link;

http://bythom.com/2011 Nikon News.htm

Exactly, "closer to low end compacts" people need to stop getting so excited, its a decent phone camera but its no DSLR replacement.
 
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