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Really hoping that image stabilization is a feature in the still camera, but this photo might prove otherwise.
 
Exactly, "closer to low end compacts" people need to stop getting so excited, its a decent phone camera but its no DSLR replacement.

It's no Hasselblad Xpan with a 30mm aspheric either but it is a camera I always have with me and it just got better, so I am excited.
 
Given that 70% of facebook's photo updates are people's meals, taking picture of a dish of sushi can be as close to real world scenario as it can be.


While it is a nice photo, it's about as useful as that plate of sushi that was accidentally posted on Flickr. Can AppVV walk outside and take a picture of some scenery?
 
The photo looks fine for typical phone usage- it's not meant to replace a proper camera.

More importantly, am I the only one that doesn't think it's a good idea to post high(ish) resolution photos of US Currency? Watermark or not, the Secret Service frowns on that sort of thing.
 
The current iphone 4 already takes absolutely gorgeous pictures so I can imagine what the 4S can do. I was looking for a digital camera for my girlfriend last year and not one and I mean not one camera at Best Buy could compete with the quality of the iphone 4. Now even a $500.00 Sony cyber shot.

Any high-end compact would have done the trick easily, especially vs. the ip4. With ip4s having near N8 quality (or so it seems), the gap is definitely closer. Still, mere component size (or, rather, lack there-of) makes the dedicated a winner 9 times out of 10. If we go for the "not so compact"-compact cameras (e.g. Canon G-series) there's no longer any competition*.

* That said, the best camera is the camera you have with you - and, by the looks of it, iphone 4s will make for great-enough quality pictures in most circumstances. Xenon flash would've made things bit nicer. So would mechanical shutters (which i assume it does not have, unlike the N8). But all in all, its far from shabby. On the contrary, it should meet most peoples needs (better is always nicer though :D)
 
No you don't get it, but don't worry plenty don't aswell.

The point is the phone does not cost $300, by upgrading you are extending your obligations to the provider for 24 months, you will be paying for the cost of the phone throghout that peroid.

And this is where I become even more confused with your comment. You are going to have a cell phone for the unforeseeable future, might as well be in contract. I have upgraded every year and had no issues making enough money to pay ETF and get new phone if I wanted to. AT&T makes it even easier since for some reason they just love making people eligible for a full upgrade after only a year. I was on a family plan with my brother and although I went to Sprint he kept my line and upgraded it to the IP4s after only a year. Then he will pay ETF on his line. ETF is ~$200 after the year.

So where is the logic in not being in a contract???

Please also note, your service is not any cheaper without a contract. I.e. Person 1 walks into Apple and purchases an iPhone on contract. $199 plus $65 a month for service. Person 2 walks into Apple and purchased an iPhone off contract. $650 plus $65 a month for service.
 
It is a point and shoot for when one doesn't have a dedicated point and shoot camera, from first impressions it doesn't do too bad, but, IMHO can't compete with most dedicated cameras. Thats not taking anything away from it, there will be photos of previously unseen events that would have only been able to be captured on dedicated cameras.
 
Any high-end compact would have done the trick easily, especially vs. the ip4. With ip4s having near N8 quality (or so it seems), the gap is definitely closer. Still, mere component size (or, rather, lack there-of) makes the dedicated a winner 9 times out of 10. If we go for the "not so compact"-compact cameras (e.g. Canon G-series) there's no longer any competition*.

* That said, the best camera is the camera you have with you - and, by the looks of it, iphone 4s will make for great-enough quality pictures in most circumstances. Xenon flash would've made things bit nicer. So would mechanical shutters (which i assume it does not have, unlike the N8). But all in all, its far from shabby. On the contrary, it should meet most peoples needs (better is always nicer though :D)

Great post.
 
For comparison, here's a crop of an unretouched £20 note taken with a Galaxy S2. I think the iPhone 4s camera is good but from the samples I've seen, it's no better than any other top end phone's camera and the Nokia N8 still sets the standard for camera phones (it's just a shame the rest of the phone is so rubbish!)

Of course, it's possible the 4s can take better photos than these samples, so it will be interesting to see samples once people get them in their hands
 

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Excuse my ignorance, but I've seen quotes similar to this several times and don't really get it. IF you plan on staying with your current carrier AND you currently own an iPhone4, doesn't it make sense to sell your iPhone4 for $300+ dollars and use that money to get an iPhone 4S? I personally think the people that don't do this are the yahoos (unless you really want to have a backup iPhone just in case, which is understandable).

I sold my iphone4 to Gazelle. If all goes well, my new 16gig will cost me nothing or just a few dollars and that includes new activation charges. That's a no brainer to me.

Can't wait for Friday. New phone and iOS5.
 
No you don't get it, but don't worry plenty don't aswell.

The point is the phone does not cost $300, by upgrading you are extending your obligations to the provider for 24 months, you will be paying for the cost of the phone throghout that peroid.

They DO get it. You're going to be on a contract whether you upgrade your phone every year or every ten years. If you can sell your phone each year, and buy a new one, and after both transactions have processed you have the same amount of money in your bank account... Then you haven't lost a penny. The only way anyone would be affected (besides the benefit of a sweet new phone) is if they wanted to change carriers early and had to pay extra. That's an entirely separate situation though.
 
Exactly, "closer to low end compacts" people need to stop getting so excited, its a decent phone camera but its no DSLR replacement.

I just tried, and strangely, I can't fit any of my DSLRs in my pocket. Well, the GF1 will cram in, but it hurts when I walk.

Oh, wait, now I remember Apple quoted the camera as a P&S alternative not a DSLR. I think you'll find this is the source of "people's" excitement. It's a go everywhere, use in a moment's notice, every day snapper. If there time to capture performance is as advertised, it IS exciting.
 
Hoping this is shallow DOF/shake vs. optics issue.

it's because of the wide aperture of 2.4!!! Depth of field issue! A more narrow aperture and an ISO bump would have done the trick!
Does anybody know how high the ISO can go? (maybe of the iP4?)

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Is the format still jpeg? I wonder how it would look like using raw as an image format.
 
The photo looks fine for typical phone usage- it's not meant to replace a proper camera.

More importantly, am I the only one that doesn't think it's a good idea to post high(ish) resolution photos of US Currency? Watermark or not, the Secret Service frowns on that sort of thing.

Silly for them to frown on that... It's not like every single person out there couldn't take the same picture themselves or anything crazy like that...

Even assuming they cannot afford or just don't have a camera of that quality, anyone could simply walk into an Apple store, take a picture of their own dollar bill and email it to themselves at full resolution.
 
Silly for them to frown on that... It's not like every single person out there couldn't take the same picture themselves or anything crazy like that...

Even assuming they cannot afford or just don't have a camera of that quality, anyone could simply walk into an Apple store, take a picture of their own dollar bill and email it to themselves at full resolution.
Who the hell is going to waste their time counterfeiting a one-dollar bill?
 
Silly for them to frown on that... It's not like every single person out there couldn't take the same picture themselves or anything crazy like that...

Even assuming they cannot afford or just don't have a camera of that quality, anyone could simply walk into an Apple store, take a picture of their own dollar bill and email it to themselves at full resolution.

In the UK, it's illegal and considered counterfeiting to publish a picture of a bank note without putting "SPECIMEN" across it (which is why I only posted a crop above!)
 
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