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An iPhone with a 4.3" Screen @ 3:2 Aspect
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Even if the new phone is not 4.3" or bigger I just hope we get a 4" that is both taller and wider, taller is just silly by itself.
Silly is an understatement. It's downright stupid. I can't believe there are people who actually want a taller but not wider phone. Why? What possible reason could there be for wanting it that way? Any reasoning that I've heard people come up with is just trying to come up with some rational reason to justify this. Is there anybody out there who ever thought to themselves "gee, I wish they would make a taller iPhone, that would be great"?
I'm a huge fan of Apple, but this has really thrown me for a loop. I'm still holding out a small glimmer of hope that it's not true but that glimmer is getting smaller by the day.
Why? Why did you have to show us that beautiful mockup? Now I'll be even more disappointed with the longer-only iPhone. 
Seriously, that size looks great! I'd be totally fine with recycling the look of the 4/4S if it were the proper size, and your mockup fits the bill.
Seriously, that size looks great! I'd be totally fine with recycling the look of the 4/4S if it were the proper size, and your mockup fits the bill.
I can answer your question. The main purpose is to match the same ratio you see in many movies. Since iTunes is now supporting a lot of movies, they wanna be able to show the whole screen without black bars on top/bottom or panning/cutting out portions on the left and right side.
But they are too little too late. They shouldn't have missed with the height only. The original resolution was 960x640. The standard for film and all
digital cameras and hdtv is 1920x1080. 960x2 happens to fit into 1920
PERFECTLY. 640x2=1280, so maybe they can double the width and add
ability for subtitles and movie controls without touching the 1080p area.
(you can get 200 pixels tall for movie controls like pause, play, etc or subtitles, etc).
If they can squeeze 1920x1280 into 7 inches (perfect doubling of 3.5 inch
screen of i4s) using current retina display, then you basically have
the iPad Mini. That would be the perfect size. 7 inches is a little big
for only the screen for an iPhone, so they would have to go a little higher in
dpi than current retina for i4s (perhaps towards 400+ dpi) and squeeze it into 5.3 or 5.5 inches, then that would be perfect for iPhone.
An iPhone at wallet size (size of your wallet is about 5-6 inches) is perfect.
I think LG or some company in Korea or Japan already introduced this in
5 inches (@1920x1080p). THAT would fit perfectly in iPhone. You would
be able to see full HD movies and full HD digital camera pics, tv shows, and all current hdtv gaming and film WITHOUT LOSING pixels or rescaling.
In fact, that is the holy grail size. 5-6 inches at 1080p (or 1280p in iphone's case). Guess which phone falls into that size? Yep. Galaxy Note. That is why it is a fast seller. The only thing holding that phone back is that it is using slow Java, and that stupid Pentile Matrix LCD. If you see Pentile Matrix, run away. I think Galaxy Note 2 will be the one to watch. If they stick with Pentile Matrix, skip it. If they can hit 1080p in 5.5 inches. That will be the hot seller.
As for the comment about the thumb not being able to scale across the width of the screen using one hand... that is simply not true. When I hold my wallet, naturally, the fingers on the bottom locates the middle point for balance. When I pick up my iPhone, naturally, I will hold the thumb and bottom fingers near the middle. Rarely will people pick up an iPhone and force it into the pocket of your hand like a baseball in a mitt. Try it yourself. You naturally will locate the center and squeeze near the middle. If your bottom fingers are near the bottom middle, your thumb can easy traverse the width of a 5.5 inch diagonal
screen. (4.3 no problem either, thought that would be great, size of a PSP). Even with a 3.5 screen (like i4S), you will NOT put it totally inside the pocket of your hand. Because it is extremely difficult to touch the right part of the screen with your thumb (you would need to bend it so far it would be uncomfortable). You will naturally balance your phone in the middle and let it hang lower on your other fingers, allowing your thumb to easily touch the right side of the screen in extended mode (not bending). This is basic comfort testing and design. I am hoping Apple didn't simply measure the length of the thumb and not actually test people using it, then force everyone to stare at a tiny 3.5 screen and get stuck at that size forever!
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The problem that most people fail to realize or acknowledge is tha movies are shot in varying ratios. You can't ever completely eliminate the letterboxing. I learned all of this at the advent of Blu-ray. Some movies are shot in the 1.75:1 range which fits current HDTV screens. But other movies are shot in the 2.35:1 range and create letterboxing. There is no universal screen size that accommodates all movies. That's why you see that movement around the screen in the theater before a movie starts. They are adjusting for the source material.
And who watches movies on their iPhone anyway! Helluva thing to base a new screen size on.
I am trying to reserve my judgement until the phone is released. IF it is just an elongated screen, I still can't help but wonder whether or not there will be some new "kill" software feature implemented.
Does it really make sense to base the screen shape of a PHONE on what may be better for watching some MOVIES, especially when that is something you might do 10% of the time at best? And worse, it provides no benefit or worsens the experience for things people do more, like web surfing, phone calls, texting, etc. That would be like a car maker only making a car available with drag radials in case you want to drag race it at the strip. I can see them making an iPod HD with a widescreen format, but for the phone it makes no sense to me.
I certainly wouldn't want a phone any larger than 4.3"; any larger and you're treading in tablet territory. That being said, a screen that is just taller seems awkward to me. But, as always, it's hard to know without holding the device in your hands.
It's perfect to me. Of all the phone I've had to date by far my favorite size with was the HTC EVO with a 4.3 screen. If they did release it I would probably do what I said I'd never do, pay full retail. But I don't think their is a chance in the world it's going to happen as elongated 4.0 is what we are getting.
I would love a 4.3" screen, but I kind of feel like 4" might be the perfect size. I dunno, I'd just have to see it in real life. I haven't used many of those 4+" Android phones.
ANYTHING is better than the stupid screen on the iPhone 5 'leak', a taller screen makes no sense
ANYTHING is better than the stupid screen on the iPhone 5 'leak', a taller screen makes no sense
I would love a 4.3" screen, but I kind of feel like 4" might be the perfect size. I dunno, I'd just have to see it in real life. I haven't used many of those 4+" Android phones.
ANYTHING is better than the stupid screen on the iPhone 5 'leak', a taller screen makes no sense
I think 4" would be the perfect size also. I've used 4.3 androids and it's not too bad either.
On a side note though, anyone know what case he's using on the 4S?
It is the iFrogz Ultra Lean Case... White
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/iFrogz+...&skuId=2381587&st=ifrogz ultra lean&cp=1&lp=2
Thanks Want300. If this had been the size and shape of the next iphone, I would have been happy. But, as I have told others, i am ready to be disappointed. BTW, like your auto-cad skills.
If Jobs was the one to push the elongated design, i have to wonder if his mind was working properly towards the end. No disrespect intended for the man, he's one of my icons, but nothing else he ever produced ever seemed out of shape/ratio. Everything was always perfectly balanced between form and function.
If Jobs was the one to push the elongated design, i have to wonder if his mind was working properly towards the end. No disrespect intended for the man, he's one of my icons, but nothing else he ever produced ever seemed out of shape/ratio. Everything was always perfectly balanced between form and function.
Thanks Want300. If this had been the size and shape of the next iphone, I would have been happy. But, as I have told others, i am ready to be disappointed. BTW, like your auto-cad skills.
If Jobs was the one to push the elongated design, i have to wonder if his mind was working properly towards the end. No disrespect intended for the man, he's one of my icons, but nothing else he ever produced ever seemed out of shape/ratio. Everything was always perfectly balanced between form and function.
I think anything bigger is ok. Its just that they only go bigger in one dimension. Every phone manufacture is aiming for 1920x1080 native LCD display that can fit into a phone. That is the benchmark. 5.5 inches is probably going to be the first size, slowly moving towards the more ideal 5.0 inches. At 1080p, all the movies (blueray), TV shows, camera films, etc will fit nicely.
Not exactly. Movies are filmed at whatever ratio the director sees fit. On a 1080p TV, a blu ray movie will still have black bars on the top and bottom of the screen because the movie was filmed with an aspect ratio that is wider than 16:9... There is no standard, so we will never fully get away from black bars on the top and bottom (unless they make something a standard, which they probably won't) without having to cut off some of the movie on each side.
I prefer having a screen which is longer and wider like the one in the First post. If they make it like that I would be very happy.
I would prefer they do not change the aspect ratio... but if they want to switch to 16:9... They need to make it worth it, not just a 0.5" increase that only results in height on screen. Make it 4.3" to 4.6" so it feels significantly bigger.
I wonder what the reaction will be like at the Key Note... How will the crowd react if it is the only taller iPhone or How will the crowd react if it is something we have not seen??
The cardboard mock-up makes more sense then the leaks. I hate the proposed leaks because stretching it in one direction is not enough. Plus apps would be incompatible with the screen ratio. Every app is going to be broken on release day with black bars.
The funny part is that if you double the current resolution of 960x640 to 1920x1280, keep the 3:2 ratio and increase the screen size that would be the iPhone I would want. Current apps would operate in 1x mode and can fill the screen size with a 2x mode until native support comes out. Maybe these leaks are controlled to throw everyone off.
The funny part is that if you double the current resolution of 960x640 to 1920x1280, keep the 3:2 ratio and increase the screen size that would be the iPhone I would want. Current apps would operate in 1x mode and can fill the screen size with a 2x mode until native support comes out. Maybe these leaks are controlled to throw everyone off.