An iPhone with a 4.3" Screen @ 3:2 Aspect

[batting1000]

Where is the smaller dock connector on this thing?? I call fake!

 

[solarguy17]

Where is the smaller dock connector on this thing?? I call fake!

lol


but seriously, i think the longer iPhone is a good idea. i find myself using the phone in vertical mode more then sideways. so it would be nice t grab some extra height.

i would like some extra width but i think height alone increase is great too.

 

[allonym]

Same size > longer > longer and wider

I'd like to see the same size screen but a smaller, thinner, lighter phone overall. I know it couldn't be done with current technology - especially battery tech - but iPod Touch size and shape would be perfect for me.

 

[mattopotamus]

I will each my right shoe if the next iphone is a 4.3" 3:2 display. You're mockup (which is really well done by the way, kudos) just proves this to me further.

Keep in mind I already ate my left shoe when I said the next air won't have USB3.0...

This is one reason:
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Your thumb easily reaches across the screen without using the other hand, fussing, or stretching, or anything.

And on the mockup:
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Your thumb would barely reach across. You would have to probably either fuss with the phone or stretch a bit to get there, and this is with the super-thin bezel.

Assumptions:
(1) I assume your the flap of skin between your thumb and and index finger ends right above the knuckle of your thumb, as I indicated in the picture. I looked up this little factoid real quick from some random anatomy website.
(2) Your mockup has a pretty thin bezel; apple seems to like thicker bezels. I know the GS3 has a thin bezel, but keep in mind that apple will probably have the antenna wrap around this thing which the GS3 does not.

that is why I do not want wider....I have small hands and right now, I can hold an iphone comfortably with one hand w/o the fear of dropping it. With the s3 and nexus, I had to be a lot more cautious b.c of the size

 

[k3roro]

I will each my right shoe if the next iphone is a 4.3" 3:2 display. You're mockup (which is really well done by the way, kudos) just proves this to me further.

Keep in mind I already ate my left shoe when I said the next air won't have USB3.0...

This is one reason:
Image
Your thumb easily reaches across the screen without using the other hand, fussing, or stretching, or anything.

And on the mockup:
Image
Your thumb would barely reach across. You would have to probably either fuss with the phone or stretch a bit to get there, and this is with the super-thin bezel.

Assumptions:
(1) I assume your the flap of skin between your thumb and and index finger ends right above the knuckle of your thumb, as I indicated in the picture. I looked up this little factoid real quick from some random anatomy website.
(2) Your mockup has a pretty thin bezel; apple seems to like thicker bezels. I know the GS3 has a thin bezel, but keep in mind that apple will probably have the antenna wrap around this thing which the GS3 does not.

This is exactly my thought, but you've managed to put it in picture.

If you can make the second picture so that you show the thumb cannot reach the top left corner of the screen, this would be great as a lot of the time we use the top left corner as it is often the "back" button, and to use the handset with one hand we have to be able to reach over to the top left.

 

[Want300]

Where is the smaller dock connector on this thing?? I call fake!

LOL. My bad.

that is why I do not want wider....I have small hands and right now, I can hold an iphone comfortably with one hand w/o the fear of dropping it. With the s3 and nexus, I had to be a lot more cautious b.c of the size

My hands are small as well, when I had the Galaxy S2... At first, it was almost too big because I was trying to hold it like I hold my iPhone. This did make it hard to use with one hand. After a day or so, I got used to its size.

One thing for sure though... The GS2 and the iPhone mock up I made were not to big for my pocket.

Where's the proof that says Apple bought a crap ton of 4.3" LG screens?

I do not know, someone kept mentioning it in previous threads...

 

[muzikman54]

It seems that everyone on here has small hands! lol I'm 6'8" so naturally I have some big hands. I currently use a GS2 Epic 4G Touch. 4.5" screen. I find it quite comfortable. The only reasons I didn't upgrade to an iPhone 4s back in December were no 4g and 3.5 in screen. An elongated screen would break apps and is just an all around ridiculous idea. I would probably loose a lot of faith in Apple and Tim Cook if the long screen was released. Hopefully they keep the screen the way it is, but scale it up to 4.3".

 

[mattopotamus]

It seems that everyone on here has small hands! lol I'm 6'8" so naturally I have some big hands. I currently use a GS2 Epic 4G Touch. 4.5" screen. I find it quite comfortable. The only reasons I didn't upgrade to an iPhone 4s back in December were no 4g and 3.5 in screen. An elongated screen would break apps and is just an all around ridiculous idea. I would probably loose a lot of faith in Apple and Tim Cook if the long screen was released. Hopefully they keep the screen the way it is, but scale it up to 4.3".

I will not deny I have girl size hands haha. Acutally, I think my GF has the same size hands

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LOL. My bad.



My hands are small as well, when I had the Galaxy S2... At first, it was almost too big because I was trying to hold it like I hold my iPhone. This did make it hard to use with one hand. After a day or so, I got used to its size.

One thing for sure though... The GS2 and the iPhone mock up I made were not to big for my pocket.



I do not know, someone kept mentioning it in previous threads...

I have found that fitting in the pocket mostly comes down to how thick or thin the phone is. The larger, thinner phones (S3) fit better in my pocket than the 4S

 

[Want300]

I will not deny I have girl size hands haha. Acutally, I think my GF has the same size hands

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I have found that fitting in the pocket mostly comes down to how thick or thin the phone is. The larger, thinner phones (S3) fit better in my pocket than the 4S

LOL, same here... too funny. Yea, the GS2 fit in my pocket just fine. I have the SUPER thin case from iFrogz on my personal phone (see OP), so I can barely tell it is there. My work phone has a thicker black Incase: slider case.

 

[mattopotamus]

LOL, same here... too funny. Yea, the GS2 fit in my pocket just fine. I have the SUPER thin case from iFrogz on my personal phone (see OP), so I can barely tell it is there. My work phone has a thicker black Incase: slider case.

What case is that exactly? I hate cases, but that one is barley noticeable.

 

[Want300]

What case is that exactly? I hate cases, but that one is barley noticeable.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/iFrogz+...381587&st=ifrogz white iphone ultra&cp=1&lp=1

It looks so good on a white iPhone.

 

[mattopotamus]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/iFrogz+...381587&st=ifrogz white iphone ultra&cp=1&lp=1

It looks so good on a white iPhone.

thank you sir

 

[Want300]

thank you sir

When I used to work at Best Buy, I used to switch cases each month... Couldn't help it when they usually came down to like $4-$10 a piece. It was nice to change it up. The one I have now cost me around $6.25, the Incase was like $8 I think, not sure though.

Then they changed their policy, going to 50 % off maximum discount, but then I got a job in my career finally, so it doesn't matter anymore.

 

[allonym]

This is exactly my thought, but you've managed to put it in picture.

If you can make the second picture so that you show the thumb cannot reach the top left corner of the screen, this would be great as a lot of the time we use the top left corner as it is often the "back" button, and to use the handset with one hand we have to be able to reach over to the top left.

Or could Want300 try it out with his mock up? I have average-sized hands for a chap and have to shuffle around a 4.3-inch screen phone to be able to reach the opposite top corner with my thumb (top left with right thumb, holding with right hand etc). Even with shuffling it's not at all comfortable. Basically, a 4.3-inch phone is a two-handed device for me. I'm a bit worried that 4 inch tall would be the same.

 

[BuckeyeMac]

I will each my right shoe if the next iphone is a 4.3" 3:2 display. You're mockup (which is really well done by the way, kudos) just proves this to me further.

Keep in mind I already ate my left shoe when I said the next air won't have USB3.0...

This is one reason:
Image
Your thumb easily reaches across the screen without using the other hand, fussing, or stretching, or anything.

And on the mockup:
Image
Your thumb would barely reach across. You would have to probably either fuss with the phone or stretch a bit to get there, and this is with the super-thin bezel.

Assumptions:
(1) I assume your the flap of skin between your thumb and and index finger ends right above the knuckle of your thumb, as I indicated in the picture. I looked up this little factoid real quick from some random anatomy website.
(2) Your mockup has a pretty thin bezel; apple seems to like thicker bezels. I know the GS3 has a thin bezel, but keep in mind that apple will probably have the antenna wrap around this thing which the GS3 does not.

This is ***** stupid...who the heck holds the phone at their finger tips??

I tried out a galaxy note over the weekend, I have medium sized hands, and I could reach all of the way across without strain.

Taking a picture and using a line when your hand is open is not relative to the motion of extending your thumb

 

[Want300]

Or could Want300 try it out with his mock up? I have average-sized hands for a chap and have to shuffle around a 4.3-inch screen phone to be able to reach the opposite top corner with my thumb (top left with right thumb, holding with right hand etc). Even with shuffling it's not at all comfortable. Basically, a 4.3-inch phone is a two-handed device for me. I'm a bit worried that 4 inch tall would be the same.

I have more trouble with the mock up then I had with the GS2... because the cardboard mock up has no weight to it. So gravity is not much help in keeping it still has I move my thumb to touch the "screen"... does that make sense?

The number 1 thing I learned from doing this mock up... I want the aspect ratio to stay the same. The mock up phone feels SOO much bigger than my phone for only a 0.8" increase in size.

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After work today, I am probably going to adjust the mock up drawing using the slightly small dimensions we saw on the "taller" iPhone using the caliper. And the slightly small home button.

 

[Pez555]

i like it but there is still too much bezel.

 

[allonym]

I have more trouble with the mock up then I had with the GS2... because the cardboard mock up has no weight to it. So gravity is not much help in keeping it still has I move my thumb to touch the "screen"... does that make sense?

The number 1 thing I learned from doing this mock up... I want the aspect ratio to stay the same. The mock up phone feels SOO much bigger than my phone for only a 0.8" increase in size.

I think this is right:

3.5", 3:2 screen: 2.91" x 1.96" = 5.70 sq. inches

4.3", 3:2 screen: 3.56" x 2.40" = 8.56 sq. inches

4.0", 16:9 screen: 3.49" x 1.96" = 6.85 sq. inches

So a 4.0, 16:9 screen is 20% bigger than the screen on the current iPhone and a 4.3, 3:2 screen is 50% bigger (in terms of area).

As I say above though, my concern is one handed usability and the key dimension here is the diagonal from the bottom of the phone (not the screen) to the opposite top corner of the screen. The strip below the screen in the leaked parts for the tall screen iPhone is shorter than in the current phone, which should help a bit (but I still think the increase might be a problem). For a hypothetical 4.3", 3:2 iPhone it's not hard to imagine that the strip below the screen would also be smaller (not larger as it seems to be in your mock up) but there's a limit to how much it could be reduced without making the home button very small.

 

[ixodes]

I decided to see what an iPhone with a 4.3" iPhone with an aspect ratio of 3:2 would feel and look like. I did it assuming roughly the iPhone 4/4S bezel and thickness.

I have do not have big hands... Holding this 4.3 inch "phone" feels REALLY good. It is not too big to use with one hand, and it is still set up like a "brick" (no rounded edges). It feels just fine in my pocket.

See pictures below. This is what I want the iPhone to be like.

Kudos for your excellent work!

I like that it's nicely proportional.

This I would buy.

Long & narrow will fail to get my order, I'd rather pass.

If the narrow mockup we've been seeing is it, I hope that others that prefer a phone like yours, don't cave in. Nothing would be worse than to cave into Apples design if it fails to meet ones expectations.

All that would do is further prove that Apple has the power over the people. A stance they once railed against, as the little company that stood out as fresh & innovative.

 

[Want300]

I think this is right:

3.5", 3:2 screen: 2.91" x 1.96" = 5.70 sq. inches

4.3", 3:2 screen: 3.56" x 2.40" = 8.56 sq. inches

4.0", 16:9 screen: 3.49" x 1.96" = 6.85 sq. inches

So a 4.0, 16:9 screen is 20% bigger than the screen on the current iPhone and a 4.3, 3:2 screen is 50% bigger (in terms of area).

As I say above though, my concern is one handed usability and the key dimension here is the diagonal from the bottom of the phone (not the screen) to the opposite top corner of the screen. The strip below the screen in the leaked parts for the tall screen iPhone is shorter than in the current phone, which should help a bit (but I still think the increase might be a problem). For a hypothetical 4.3", 3:2 iPhone it's not hard to imagine that the strip below the screen would also be smaller (not larger as it seems to be in your mock up) but there's a limit to how much it could be reduced without making the home button very small.

I used the same dimensions for the mock up as the iPhone 4/4S for the bezel (well, as close as I could get with a ruler). I did not increase its height because of the bigger screen.

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Kudos for your excellent work!

I like that it's nicely proportional.

This I would buy.

Long & narrow will fail to get my order, I'd rather pass.

If the narrow mockup we've been seeing is it, I hope that others that prefer a phone like yours, don't cave in. Nothing would be worse than to cave into Apples design if it fails to meet ones expectations.

All that would do is further prove that Apple has the power over the people. A stance they once railed against, as the little company that stood out as fresh & innovative.

Thanks, It was a fun little project. I think a 4.0" to 4.3" with a 3:2 aspect ratio would be perfect for the new iPhone.

 

[allonym]

I used the same dimensions for the mock up as the iPhone 4/4S for the bezel (well, as close as I could get with a ruler). I did not increase its height because of the bigger screen.

Ah, yes. I see that now.

 

[Want300]

Ah, yes. I see that now.

I am going to change it to reflect the dimensions on the "taller" iphone that we saw last week. I may also make a 4" mock up drawing with 3:2 aspect ratio to have next to it. Which I will put on the same AutoCAD drawing alongside the current iPhone (maybe for this part, I also might just print it again to do that), and maybe the taller phone as well if I have time.

 

[k3roro]

Or could Want300 try it out with his mock up? I have average-sized hands for a chap and have to shuffle around a 4.3-inch screen phone to be able to reach the opposite top corner with my thumb (top left with right thumb, holding with right hand etc). Even with shuffling it's not at all comfortable. Basically, a 4.3-inch phone is a two-handed device for me. I'm a bit worried that 4 inch tall would be the same.

I think a 4 inch tall would be okay as you would just hold the phone closer to a middle position as opposed to holding the phone at the bottom position.

 

[Syk]

Very nice mock up. That I would buy on release day. The 4" long design I just can't get thrilled about.

 

[Syk]

Good luck getting people to redo there apps yet again.

They'll either redo them or someone else will come along and do a similar app that does

I'm not a ios developer but I do write java and vb at work and I look at it like this. If you're a developer, you develop.

I've rewritten a lot of my code to make it work with a system updat but there's also been a lot that I just copied and pasted in and tweaked what needed to be done instead of starting from scratch.

True the small guy may take longer coming out with an update but the big players I think could roll updates out sooner.

If iOS code allows for scalable graphics then IMO that's the route I would go here on out.