Although I would be satisfied with any screen that is currently bigger than mine, I do hope it'll come a little bigger. Not going to be a deal breaker though.
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An iPhone with a 4.3" Screen @ 3:2 Aspect
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I added a 4" (3:2) version, the current 3.5" (3:2) version, and the 4" (16:9) version.
Note: the side bezel is set the same as the iPhone 4/4S and the upper and lower bezel is set to roughly 15.4 mm for all the mock ups (like we saw last week in the "taller" iphone breakdown video).
Note: the side bezel is set the same as the iPhone 4/4S and the upper and lower bezel is set to roughly 15.4 mm for all the mock ups (like we saw last week in the "taller" iphone breakdown video).
It looked a little funny as an imbedded picture. So here is the uploaded file.
EDIT: Not really sure why it did not work... Will look into it later. Sorry.
EDIT 2: Now it seems to be working. Do not get it.
EDIT: Not really sure why it did not work... Will look into it later. Sorry.
EDIT 2: Now it seems to be working. Do not get it.
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What strikes me when thinking about it is that a taller screen also causes problems with the reach of the thumb, since the thumb's knuckle joint will be toward the bottom of the phone. Thus I just don't see the sense in making the phone taller only (but then again I loathe widescreen TV at the expensive of viewable height).
EDIT: actually, I just realized I hold my phone in my right hand so that the lower right-hand corner is in the centre of my palm, which means the effective length of my thumb in selecting button on the phone is based on the joint between the thumb and the wrist and not the thumb and the hand.
EDIT: actually, I just realized I hold my phone in my right hand so that the lower right-hand corner is in the centre of my palm, which means the effective length of my thumb in selecting button on the phone is based on the joint between the thumb and the wrist and not the thumb and the hand.
When I was holding the mock up I made. They only issue I had was that since it had no weight to it, It moved around a lot as my thumb would reach to different areas of the "screen"
4.3" ? Too big.
I like the small form factor of the iPhone, 4" 3:2 would be the limit for a phone, to me.
Anyway, what would be the resolution? Where does this diagonal size comes from?
One way to obtain ~4.3" is to stay at 960x640 and use 264 ppi screens, as on retina iPads.
But that's still too big for a phone for my taste (~12 mm wider than current iPhone screen) and it would lose the retina stamp for a pocket device ... now, for a revamped iPod Touch, why not
I like the small form factor of the iPhone, 4" 3:2 would be the limit for a phone, to me.
Anyway, what would be the resolution? Where does this diagonal size comes from?
One way to obtain ~4.3" is to stay at 960x640 and use 264 ppi screens, as on retina iPads.
But that's still too big for a phone for my taste (~12 mm wider than current iPhone screen) and it would lose the retina stamp for a pocket device ... now, for a revamped iPod Touch, why not
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Apple know what the public want and good marketing dictates you should drag that out. You can't give them everything all at once that would make no commercial sense.
Just look at the poll on this one thread, its obvious most people want a bigger screen.
So this time we will get just the taller phone and squillions will buy it anyway.
Next phone will stay same size but have a chip upgrade blah blah.
Thereafter the phone will be the size people want.
we have a while to wait to get the perfect phone, and Apple will keep us waiting and continue to take our money.
clever you have to admit.
Just look at the poll on this one thread, its obvious most people want a bigger screen.
So this time we will get just the taller phone and squillions will buy it anyway.
Next phone will stay same size but have a chip upgrade blah blah.
Thereafter the phone will be the size people want.
we have a while to wait to get the perfect phone, and Apple will keep us waiting and continue to take our money.
clever you have to admit.
I also appreciate you taking the time to give us all a visual look at the differences in sizes. Is there any way you can also add a 4.3" 16:9 version too?
Also when are you going to sell your version? It will probably be the only way we'll get a larger phone that's both wider and taller.
I don't know... cell phone years are like dog years. 2 years is an eternity. Hell, We'll probably be full circle with people wanting smaller screens by the time the 2014 iPhone change rolls around and Apple will be right there, never having changed much in the first place.
I like either the 4 or 4.3" 3:2 screens. Looks more dimensional
Just curious what are Androids screens? 16:9?
Just curious what are Androids screens? 16:9?
No. Once people get used to a larger screen they very rarely go back. In the beginnings of cell phones of wasn't the screens that shrunk. It was the body and the amount of bezel and thickness. The size of screens has pretty much only increased over time.
you got it too
I think you also nailed it in the head with your observation too about thumb navigation and holding style.
5.0 wallet size at 1080p is no problem either for thumb navigation...
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/15400555/
I remember a quote from an article that Apple designers and engineers don't do usability testing or get input from users when making their products. They are so secretive after all. So sometimes designers and engineers will live in a bubble coming up with the next product in secret. The problem with this model is that they may get arbitrary measurements that are wrong, especially if usability testing at a large scale is not conducted.
As the post above indicates, you can't simply measure thumb size to dictate max screen width! You have to consider how users hold their phones. And what is the average pocket size. There are billions of people who have wallets. THAT is the size phones should aim for. THAT is what fits in their pockets. People hold their phone balanced in the middle near the middle (especially the index finger to squeeze) and let it hang lower. This allows the thumb to navigate the WHOLE 5.0 inches. I think the mockup is a good indicator, but because it is so light, you can't get a feel of how to balance it in the middle from gravity.
The galaxy Note hit the mark. But screwed up with lcd technology. 1080p is the goal in 5+ inches. Also, widescreen is better than 3:2 ratio. All bluerays discs and FULL HD games at 1920x1080 can natively transfer to iphone screen without scaling.
I think you also nailed it in the head with your observation too about thumb navigation and holding style.
5.0 wallet size at 1080p is no problem either for thumb navigation...
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/15400555/
I remember a quote from an article that Apple designers and engineers don't do usability testing or get input from users when making their products. They are so secretive after all. So sometimes designers and engineers will live in a bubble coming up with the next product in secret. The problem with this model is that they may get arbitrary measurements that are wrong, especially if usability testing at a large scale is not conducted.
As the post above indicates, you can't simply measure thumb size to dictate max screen width! You have to consider how users hold their phones. And what is the average pocket size. There are billions of people who have wallets. THAT is the size phones should aim for. THAT is what fits in their pockets. People hold their phone balanced in the middle near the middle (especially the index finger to squeeze) and let it hang lower. This allows the thumb to navigate the WHOLE 5.0 inches. I think the mockup is a good indicator, but because it is so light, you can't get a feel of how to balance it in the middle from gravity.
The galaxy Note hit the mark. But screwed up with lcd technology. 1080p is the goal in 5+ inches. Also, widescreen is better than 3:2 ratio. All bluerays discs and FULL HD games at 1920x1080 can natively transfer to iphone screen without scaling.
That's how I hold it too. I think those that have no problems with larger screens don't hold it so a bottom corner is in the centre of the palm. I've tried it with the corner on the lower edge of my palm and I can reach much further - but the phone feels much less secure and I feel much more like I could drop it. I'm not 100% certain but I think it's true that I've never dropped an iPhone, so my way does seem to work in that respect.
I also appreciate you taking the time to give us all a visual look at the differences in sizes. Is there any way you can also add a 4.3" 16:9 version too?
Also when are you going to sell your version? It will probably be the only way we'll get a larger phone that's both wider and taller.
Yes, I will make one today... Using the iPhone's typical dimensions (the slightly smaller bezel dimensions on the purported "taller" iphone). I will show it next to the current iPhone, as well as the 4.3" @ 3:2 and the 4" @ 16:9
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Going back to an older point you made... When you look at the 4.3" @ 3:2 vs the 4.0" @ 16:9... The screen heights are not that much different, while granted since the 4.3" @ 3:2 is bigger and will still be a little hard to reach the whole screen for people with smaller hands, they are not that much different in this aspect.
Worryingly (from my point of view) it does look that way. Can you measure the distance from the bottom left corner of the phone to the top right corner of the screen for each of your mock ups?
Sure thing. Which is why I drew everything perfectly to Scale in AutoCAD. I will post it later today or tomorrow. I am pretty busy today.
Thanks from me too! Having a visual of all the different possible sizes does help greatly in seeing the difference in size screen and how the aspect ratio effects it.
I think a 4.3" screen with 16:9 aspect ratio will make the screen taller and wider without making it too wide. I've already used a few phones like that and found them to be very usable while still giving me a larger more satisfying screen to use. I do wish to see it side by side with the other screens you have create to see the difference though. Thanks again for taking the time to make all these mock-ups for everyone.
I like the 4" 3:2 mock up, that would be just right for me, but back in may WSJ reported on a 4" screen with a different aspect ratio than the 4S
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2012/05/4-inch-screens-for-next-generation-iphone-ordered.html
Which then comes back to iPhone 'stretch', which I wouldn't mind if it looks like the render in the above link, which is a more Apple like version of the leaked one, it even has the small dock and the right amount of apps ....
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2012/05/4-inch-screens-for-next-generation-iphone-ordered.html
Which then comes back to iPhone 'stretch', which I wouldn't mind if it looks like the render in the above link, which is a more Apple like version of the leaked one, it even has the small dock and the right amount of apps ....
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