Wat does it take? For me almost nothing, just money for the cpus itself. It started like everything else I do. I was bored so I was thinking what can be done and wasnt done. I soon find out that a MDD never got a dual 7457 cpu upgrade so... I started working on it.
Hell yeah@Amethyst1 did you perhaps buy this particular laptop as one of the fastest Snow Leopard machines? If so I detect a pattern
If the quad-core (15"/17") models weren't plagued by those GPU issues I'd have gotten one of those but...Out of curiosity - can you try running Geekbench (Intel) with more cores assigned to the VM?
It does seem like Geekbench likes it when you throw more cores at it, and it doesn't look like you were quite throwing the whole cpu at it in the vm. Any chance you could give it access to all 4 cores and 8 threads?
Oh hey, you beat me to the punch.
Like so?
Holy crap, exactly like that. If you compare single core performance, The G5 actually does ok up against things a lot newer. Sure, we're still talking about scores only about half as good, but not one tenth or, god, one one-hundredth.
There's a Ryzen kernel for 10.6 but I'm not sure how that would perform.
I've actually been looking for that, it would make running 10.6 in a VM much easier. Otherwise it's low powered newer laptop Intel chips, or high powered older laptop Intel chips. Either way, my Ryzen powered desktop is faster.
I just want to go on record to say that when you have a 6 core 12 thread CPU, you definitely give as many VMs as you can access to all of the CPU.
The death of 32-bit makes sense if you're trying to make Rosetta 2 as simple as possible, as does all the other transitions the operating system has been going through lately. But Rosetta 1 lasted a single OS version. As much as people updated their apps because of it, people are still trapped on it because they need PowerPC support. If this was Microsoft, those would be massive companies who have no plan on leaving the software they were using for a decade.I guess for the same reason they stopped Classic with Tiger, PPC support with Leopard, and 32-bit support with Mojave, to incentivise developers and users to update their software and hardware to newer standards. After enabling a 'transition', but with the understanding that it will be temporary and eventually you'll have to upgrade.
Which is frustrating but as a company selling both hardware and software, I get to be honest. Otherwise you are stuck ensuring compatibility with much older hardware for a long time - that's clearly what Windows does, and they are still selling 32-bit versions of their OS!
(Of course there is nothing to stop people from simply not upgrading their machines, or virtualising/emulating like I've done above).
However my little exercise does show that an 8-year old Mac Mini can run OSX PPC apps (assuming no compatibility issues with emulation of course) much faster than any PPC ever could, at a tiny fraction of the footprint and energy consumption. Basically to show that most of us here are just having fun with our PPC machines, and if we actually had a need to run PPC software there are better ways of doing it
I wonder how long Rosetta 2 under ARM will be supported for!
Back in the early days of virtualisation, we had just one core/cpu and assigned that to the vm(s) - so I'm not buying that argument
Rosetta was there in Tiger, Leo and SL. Or do you mean one version after ppc support was dropped?
Back in the early days of virtualisation, we had just one core/cpu and assigned that to the vm(s) - so I'm not buying that argument
I haven't done a lot of virtualisation really, I just got a VMWare 'warning' when I went all the way up to 8 threads! But in any case it does demonstrate that this CPU doesn't even have to work that hard to match native PPC G5 performance.Hehe, I still remember trying the very first public beta of VMware in March 1999 and being amazed beyond words to see a PC and Windows booting in a window on my Linux box (back then it was Linux-only) just like it was nothing special. It was slow and quirky but darn, it worked.Fair enough
Is the 2012 Mini the only Mac to have both Firewire and USB 3.0 by the way? Or are there any portables?You know what, I'm happy that my Mini gets as much as half as that 12-core beast of a tower
Yeah, that's what I meant. I barely even thought about x86 support in Tiger and Leopard. And a quick check says that Rosetta 1 was a part of the current Mac OS from 2006 to 2011, as that's when Lion came out. That sounds great in theory, but now it means a massive library of Mac software is locked away.
Apple sells hardware and uses it's OS and services to entice you (or force you) to buy that hardware. Microsoft sells software and services. To sell those to the widest consumer base possible it has to make it work on almost every conceivable system out there, including older systems. While MS does sells some hardware they aren't Apple. All Apple has to focus on is making it's OS and services work with a range of current devices.