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An Upgraded G4 MDD

Amethyst1

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Microsoft sells software and services. To sell those to the widest consumer base possible it has to make it work on almost every conceivable system out there,
And after the spectacular failure known as Windows Phone (which was a good OS IMHO), they had better ensure their stuff works damn well on Android and iOS :p
 

Amethyst1

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I'll do it on my "mighty" 2.33ghz core duo mini later this day - I got 2935 in gb 2.4.3 (natively). :)

Native:

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Rosetta:

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Something's telling me I should redo this after putting in that 1.46 GHz single-core Celeron M :p
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My HTC Touch Pro is still waiting for the next Windows 6.1 Pro mobile update…
I'm sure there's an unofficial Windows Mobile 6.5 port to it somewhere :)
 

repairedCheese

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Apple sells hardware and uses it's OS and services to entice you (or force you) to buy that hardware. Microsoft sells software and services. To sell those to the widest consumer base possible it has to make it work on almost every conceivable system out there, including older systems. While MS does sells some hardware they aren't Apple. All Apple has to focus on is making it's OS and services work with a range of current devices.

That's the difference.
Well it clearly doesn't work all of the time, or we wouldn't be here. :p
 

eyoungren

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Well it clearly doesn't work all of the time, or we wouldn't be here. :p
No, LOL! :D

But that's the choice. We choose to either create workarounds or use different services. For instance, I use Google's services because way back in 2012 when I started using the iPhone, Apple was at the end of supporting PowerPC. With the launch of the iPhone 5 (my first purchased iPhone) I had no way of connecting and syncing with my Macs. So, I worked around Apple.
 

r6mile

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So for the sake of it, I finally installed Snow Leopard (natively) in my 8-core 2008 Mac Pro, and ran the same exercise; ie Geekbench 2 both natively 64-bit and under Rosetta.

It beats my 2012 Mac mini by about 10% - advantages of not having to virtualise Snow Leopard, as well as the sheer number of cores I suppose.

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r6mile

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@r6mile
What VM software are you using? The difference seems much bigger than it should be.

If you look on Everymac, on Geekbench the 2012 i7 Mini and the Mac Pro 3,1 8-core 3.2 are pretty close in terms of scores. So it doesn't surprise me to see those numbers tbh.

I am using VMware (which is now free on Catalina).
 
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timidpimpin

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If you look on Everymac, on Geekbench the 2012 i7 Mini and the Mac Pro 3,1 8-core 3.2 are pretty close in terms of scores. So it doesn't surprise me to see those numbers tbh.

I am using VMware (which is now free on Catalina).
My perception is that VMware does 2D acceleration much better than other VM software, so that's why the difference seems big to me. I would expect those results from running macOS in VirtualBox. But also, Geekbench doesn't test graphics, so that point of mine is useless. HAHA
 
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jmilan0302

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I've actually been looking for that, it would make running 10.6 in a VM much easier. Otherwise it's low powered newer laptop Intel chips, or high powered older laptop Intel chips. Either way, my Ryzen powered desktop is faster.
Hazdard 10.6 ISO has a kernel which runs fine in VMWare on Ryzen though. Can't remember which one it is though.
 
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