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am i the only one thinking that this "set top box" will simply be an upgraded Apple TV 4 or whatever? why have an "apple tv" and another "box" that is also for your "tv"
 

Man thats Scary, ive had mine almost that long aleady, currently no plans to get rid of it, although i will admit, if they release a good glasses free 3D TV set, that will be the motivation for me to upgrade.

Speaking of which, no one has mentioned if this much touted :apple:tv Set is going to be 3D or not 3D...If its got Liquid metal :apple: glasses im in :D
 
all naysayers seem to forget that a good hardware needs a good UI, a good software and companies like apple n ms can do that and make that hardware useful to the masses.

thus i believe in these rumors and yeah even i predict jan 2013
 
Uhh, ever heard of Amazon?

Of course, but I haven't bought a 60" HDTV from them and had it shipped through couriers that are notorious for abusing packages.

The last time I decided to throw caution to the wind and make an expensive purchase online, I ended up with a pricey guitar that was dropped off of a truck and had a smashed headstock. It took several weeks to get it sent back and receive a new unit. Good thing I'm not a touring artist, huh?
 
How can the stockroom of an apple store handle dozens of 50-60 inch LCDS?

How will the customer carry said TV from the interior of a mall to their car way out in the parking lot?

You make it sound like no company has ever sold a TV before. This is a solved problem.
 
How can the stockroom of an apple store handle dozens of 50-60 inch LCDS?

How will the customer carry said TV from the interior of a mall to their car way out in the parking lot?

I've been saying this for months. The bread-and-butter Apple consumer doesn't want to wait and there's simply no way an Apple Store can handle boxes like this, there's simply not room.


You make it sound like no company has ever sold a TV before. This is a solved problem.

Those companies that do have large stock-rooms. Look in the back of a Best Buy. The warehouse is probably 25-40% of the size of the floor space and MOST of it is TV's. Now go look at the back of an Apple Store. Some Apple Stores are already maxed out on storage space between iMacs and laptops, there's simply no way they could fit TV's.

The only viable solution they could do for this at retail is have it simply be a show room and the rest is order online and have it delivered, which unless they're paying for next-day on everything isn't particularly "Apple."
 
Of course, but I haven't bought a 60" HDTV from them and had it shipped through couriers that are notorious for abusing packages.

The last time I decided to throw caution to the wind and make an expensive purchase online, I ended up with a pricey guitar that was dropped off of a truck and had a smashed headstock. It took several weeks to get it sent back and receive a new unit. Good thing I'm not a touring artist, huh?

If you order a TV from amazon don't you get an assault rifle instead ?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...fda0cde-e176-11e1-a25e-15067bb31849_blog.html
 
Make the :apple:TV better first...

I really just want :apple: to make the :apple:TV better first. I like the stuff it has now but it needs soooo much more. More supported formats for audio and video and external storage support is first on my list.

As far as a full TV is concerned, I don't see any possible feature that would make me want to get rid of my 55" LED for a (most likely) smaller and more expensive set. Now if they introduced a ultra high resolution display that gaind support from sony and microsoft for gaming, I'd be interested but other than that, I'll just stick with what I've got for now.
 
It makes absolutely no sense for Apple to manufacture and sell its own TV. Apple has called the Apple TV a "hobby", but we are now to believe that Apple has all of a sudden taken the "hobby" Apple TV and turned it into a full-fledged television, ready to take on Samsung, Sharp, Sony, LG, Panasonic, etc.? Keep smoking…

This is all business-speak and part of a possible business strategy. A "hobby" may turn into a direct and massive attack on the TV market. Of course they're not trying to alarm their competitors by announcing well ahead what they're doing behind closed doors. Let's remember that Apple didn't manufacture phones at one time, and then it launched the iPhone. Likewise with the iPad. If anything, this makes sense -- it's part of a sneaky attack strategy that Apple has employed very successfully in the past. Hold on to your seats IMO.
 
I've been saying this for months. The bread-and-butter Apple consumer doesn't want to wait and there's simply no way an Apple Store can handle boxes like this, there's simply not room.

Simple, local/nearby storage. Only keep what you need for a day or two in the back.

This is the LEAST of things to worry about re: this potential product. :rolleyes:
 
:confused: These complaints make no sense to me. Apple has actually been much better about providing updates to older hardware than any other products I've ever owned. I think you guys must live in a vacuum where Apple is the only company you're exposed to so when they finally do stop supporting a product with updates, you get all pissy.

I think I would be happy about an iTV...perhaps. What would excite me more is if Apple were able to make some waves in the way the content owners have a stranglehold on their material. It's like they don't really want any of us to watch it?!?

Apple basically rendered my iPhone 3G useless with a software update that was too bloated for it. I can no longer run the latest version of OSX on my Macbook Pro because it's actually slower than Snow Leopard. Meanwhile, I'm beta testing Windows 8 on my PC from 2005. What were you saying again?
 
I enjoy how the use of the word "analyst" is used on this forum vs. it's meaning in the real world. It's cute.
 
Simple, local/nearby storage. Only keep what you need for a day or two in the back.

This is the LEAST of things to worry about re: this potential product. :rolleyes:

Heck, in major cities like New York they could build one "TV warehouse" for all the Apple stores in that city and only stock 5 hours worth of TV stock in each store as their own delivery guy just spends all day driving from one store to the next, replenishing stock.

If they actually sell them that fast they'd be making enough money to cover that.

And if they don't sell them that fast then this whole thing wasn't a problem to begin with.
 
Yes but analysts job is to predict these events close enough so the investors that give their money to these analysts can make more money. Of course there is the element of speculation. So it is not as simple as reading a palm. When there is millions of dollars at stake, these analysts are under different conditions than fortune teller.

Plus where do you think the fortune teller gets their info from? :)

They pull it out of their *** the same way analysts do. :D
 
...with Apple looking to partner with providers such as AT&T and Verizon on the product...

What is THIS part of the rumor about?

Surely, this is not some kind of iPhone-like subsidy play to make the TV cost less in exchange for a 2+ year commitment to AT&T or Verizon.

Or even more surely, this couldn't be a TV that gets it's content via cellular bandwidth? If so, they could/would subsidize the TV to "Free" because the 3G/4G toll would be insane.

Yes, I understand that Verizon & AT&T are also players in copper-based data distribution- and maybe that's what it's about- but I find it weird that at least some other copper-based player is not named too. Why just Verizon & AT&T?

Apple want to build a TV? Great. Maybe there is something they could do that is "think different" great. Get AT&T or Verizon involved. Not great! You think the current model of television is expensive? Just wait until those devils rule the connection between an Apple television and the iCloud content. We'll probably long for the days of "500 channels I never watch", etc.
 
I wonder what the specs on these parts are. They could just be for retina iMacs and Cinema displays.
 
What will it take to put you into this TV?

Better picture.

Universal remote.

Non-annoying interface with cable/sat providers.

Apps, pay per view, face time...all that is best for private use, not something you force everyone else in the house to participate in.
 
How can the stockroom of an apple store handle dozens of 50-60 inch LCDS?

How will the customer carry said TV from the interior of a mall to their car way out in the parking lot?

They won't.

Either it will be smaller than that. That sized will be online only and shipped to your home. Or like they do with everything else, they will do carry out. Which is typically out the receiving door thus no need to walk through the mall
 
Simple, local/nearby storage. Only keep what you need for a day or two in the back.

This is the LEAST of things to worry about re: this potential product. :rolleyes:
One store here would have you drive over to the warehouse where they load it onto your truck. If no truck they will charge to deliver to your home. To me this is a better approach then having the TV's actually in the store in the malls. For me if I did not have my son and his truck to help me get it home and set up I would never do it myself with the help of my wife. Just have them deliver and install. I just bought 2 55" Samsung 1" TVs over the last year and even though very thin they are still very large a bulky.
 
Apple basically rendered my iPhone 3G useless with a software update that was too bloated for it. I can no longer run the latest version of OSX on my Macbook Pro because it's actually slower than Snow Leopard. Meanwhile, I'm beta testing Windows 8 on my PC from 2005. What were you saying again?

Windows 7 and 8 are actually a new paradigm for Microsoft. I'll give you credit for coming up with a great example, but it's an exception to the rule and Microsoft has had to remove a lot of backward compatible code to accomplish this. So while it may run on your old hardware, TONS of your old software will not be able to run on it. It's a trade-off.

For a more realistic example, let's look at hardware manufacturers in general. Let's look at Android. How many Android phones NEVER see the next update of "stupiddesertnamehere"?

I honestly believe that Apple has done the best they can. If they are to compete then they must continue adding functionality. That functionality will always mean that older hardware either will not be able to run it or will run it more slowly than the current generation hardware. It's a fact of technology.
 
So this guy says he knows an Apple TV (true TV) is in production but then turns around and says it may not be out this year.....doesn't sound like Apple to me. Once Apple truly takes a product into production the product is coming soon.

My guess is that the only thing in production here is this guy's imagination. I'd love it if it was real - but most of this doesn't pass the smell test. AT&T and Verizon barely have enough capacity for phone customers browsing the internet on their networks let alone millions of Apple TV's streaming all their HD content over the air - wouldn't work, they don't have close to enough capacity.

These analysts all want this cause of all the talk they've been doing and what it would do for Apple stock....but it makes no sense. For the time being Apple has it right with its little set top Apple TV, JMHO...
 
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