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One store here would have you drive over to the warehouse where they load it onto your truck. If no truck they will charge to deliver to your home. To me this is a better approach then having the TV's actually in the store in the malls. For me if I did not have my son and his truck to help me get it home and set up I would never do it myself with the help of my wife. Just have them deliver and install. I just bought 2 55" Samsung 1" TVs over the last year and even though very thin they are still very large a bulky.

I used to sell big-screen TV's out of a mall store with the tiniest back stockroom. Those things were GIGANTIC compared to big screen TVs today. The fact that we are even discussing this as a real issue is ridiculous.
 
:confused: These complaints make no sense to me. Apple has actually been much better about providing updates to older hardware than any other products I've ever owned. I think you guys must live in a vacuum where Apple is the only company you're exposed to so when they finally do stop supporting a product with updates, you get all pissy.

I think I would be happy about an iTV...perhaps. What would excite me more is if Apple were able to make some waves in the way the content owners have a stranglehold on their material. It's like they don't really want any of us to watch it?!?

I'm not getting pissy, just making a statement. I'm not complaining that my old apple tv didn't get new features or that my old macbook didn't get mountain lion. I'm just stating facts. My apple tv can be replaced for a $100. A full on television can't.

You wouldn't be pissed if you spend a ton of money on a brand new 60" tv and then be expected to upgrade in 3 years just to make some new iphone or mac feature work on your barely 3 year old tv? I know I would be. I'd rather replace a cheaper $200-300 box than my entire tv.
 
Analyst Believes Apple Television Set Already in 'Full Production', Launch Timeframe

So this guy says he knows an Apple TV (true TV) is in production but then turns around and says it may not be out this year.....doesn't sound like Apple to me. Once Apple truly takes a product into production the product is coming soon.

My guess is that the only thing in production here is this guy's imagination. I'd love it if it was real - but most of this doesn't pass the smell test. AT&T and Verizon barely have enough capacity for phone customers browsing the internet on their networks let alone millions of Apple TV's streaming all their HD content over the air - wouldn't work, they don't have close to enough capacity.

These analysts all want this cause of all the talk they've been doing and what it would do for Apple stock....but it makes no sense. For the time being Apple has it right with its little set top Apple TV, JMHO...

Know nothing ANALysts that make up stuff.
These guys trade on speculation.
Apple is at an all time high, how many of these guys are selling????
 
I'm actually glad I can't afford it right now. That will curb my temptation of getting a first gen product. I'll wait for gen 2 or 3. Curious to see what is up their sleeve.
 
They're probably going to wait a few years so they can dub it a "retina" tv, because you know, everything needs to be retina.

The 27 inch iMac only needs like 8% to be retina. At the distance a tv typically is its probably already there. It's possible bigger sizes wouldn't need much more to fit the bill.

That said I suspect it is just a dumb display with hdmi that could be used as a tv or a computer monitor. And I would be fine with that. My interests are more in the iTunes store offerings.

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I think they will and I don't think they have to wait.

A 3840 x 2160 TV would be the classic "we doubled the pixels each way" move that they've done to the iPhone and the iPad.

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That's not how you get a retina display. Not all things wil have to double
 
I've never bought a TV like that.

I usually look at options for 3 - 4 months while I think about it.

Not everyone has money to waste on a new TV every couple of years. Some people buy them to last 5 or so years. Only buying a new one when there is a problem with the one the currently have.

So tell me, just what features will this over-priced rip-off have? And what will be the price point? Since you seem to be so knowledgeable about Apple's plans :rolleyes:

You think it'll be at a price point like Samsung or Panasonic? Companies that know what they are doing. There is very profit in the industry as it is. As others have said. It'll be a bog standard Sharpe/LG/Samsung screen with an Apple logo on the front.

It won't have features. It'll be as bare minimum as they think they can get away with, just like the original iPad, or the crappy graphics options they offer with the 'professional' computers.
 
I'm not getting pissy, just making a statement. I'm not complaining that my old apple tv didn't get new features or that my old macbook didn't get mountain lion. I'm just stating facts. My apple tv can be replaced for a $100. A full on television can't.

You wouldn't be pissed if you spend a ton of money on a brand new 60" tv and then be expected to upgrade in 3 years just to make some new iphone or mac feature work on your barely 3 year old tv? I know I would be. I'd rather replace a cheaper $200-300 box than my entire tv.

This is why I object to Apple making a TV.

Unless they've come up with a way to upgrade the processing unit every few years without replacing the whole thing. Then there's nothing stopping them, and I take back my objection completely.
 
AT&T and Verizon barely have enough capacity for phone customers browsing the internet on their networks let alone millions of Apple TV's streaming all their HD content over the air...

Phone and "TV" are on completely different networks.
 
I'm not getting pissy, just making a statement. I'm not complaining that my old apple tv didn't get new features or that my old macbook didn't get mountain lion. I'm just stating facts. My apple tv can be replaced for a $100. A full on television can't.

You wouldn't be pissed if you spend a ton of money on a brand new 60" tv and then be expected to upgrade in 3 years just to make some new iphone or mac feature work on your barely 3 year old tv? I know I would be. I'd rather replace a cheaper $200-300 box than my entire tv.

My current TV can't be upgraded to the current software LG is running that has Netflix and all that. What's the difference?

Sorry, but your complaint makes no sense and I still point out that Apple is better and updating old hardware more than any company I've dealt with (except maybe Canon and their update of the 7D).
 
AT&T and Verizon barely have enough capacity for phone customers browsing the internet on their networks let alone millions of Apple TV's streaming all their HD content over the air
I believe he is talking more about the CONTENT then the DELIVERY. I do not expect an actual TV soon but I do expect content deals to be made. Verizon FIOS has already announced in a video what their direction is. I.E. Have a 6 tuner Media Center type DVR (connected to one TV or in a closet) and have tiny STBs like the ATV size to handle the physical connection to the TV. And / or gaming consoles like the XBOX. I believe this is still the most efficient way to delivery the content. In my house I could easily have 3 TVs watching the same show. I think having it delivered to a central box and forward from there is the best. Doesn't mean that is the only option, but would be best in my house with a lot of TVs. I also wish they could organize the DVR recordings by user and not by DVR. Should be able to record the same show for two people but only delete it when the last person has release it.
 
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Easy...Innovative Packaging!

How can the stockroom of an apple store handle dozens of 50-60 inch LCDS?

How will the customer carry said TV from the interior of a mall to their car way out in the parking lot?

Apple is known for their awesome product packaging. Seems to me they'd design the TV box in such a way that you can transport it out yourself (perhaps wheels on the bottom or something?).
 
I believe he is talking more about the CONTENT then the DELIVERY. I do not expect an actual TV soon but I do expect content deals to be made. Verizon FIOS has already announced in a video what their direction is. I.E. Have a 6 tuner Media Center type DVR (connected to one TV or in a closet) and have tiny STBs like the ATV size to handle the physical connection to the TV. And / or gaming consoles like the XBOX. I believe this is still the most efficient way to delivery the content. In my house I could easily have 3 TVs watching the same show. I think having it delivered to a central box and forward from there is the best. Doesn't mean that is the only option, but would be best in my house with a lot of TVs. I also wish they could organize the DVD recordings by user and not by DVR. Should be able to record the same show for two people but only delete it when the last person has release it.

I hadn't thought of it that way....this sounds great to me as well, although a long way from what we've got.
 
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iPad screens are close.

Anyone screen-sharing apps from that would find the a higher-resoltion TV incredibly useful. There are a ton of uses for sharing things from iOS on a bigger screen, and the Apple Television will quickly become known as the single best way to do that.



The pixel-doubling trick allows for seamless upscaling. If you have a black pixel before now you have 4 of them. No interpolation needed. 1080p content should look the exact same on this set as any other TV. When watching Blu-Ray or iTunes movies I'd doubt you'd be able to tell the difference.



Not sure why you think you'd need to download anything at that size. Clearly the video you get from the internet will still be 1080p.

The stuff that's over that size is stuff that's being generated by a screen-sharing Mac or iPad. Like photo galleries, keynote, or e-mail. That's all being run off a computer in your house, not coming from an ISP.

If all that is true exactly how close would you need to sit to this TV to even see the resolution improvement? Even with a 55" right now at 1080p you have to be fairly close to see any difference over 720p. Would this TV really be noticeably better at normal viewing distances or would it just be sold on hype?
 
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