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Analyst Predicts MacBook Air Sales of 700,000 Units This Quarter
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Vaio is also plastic. So 1990s.
And gawd, who wants to buy plastic laptops any more?
And gawd, who wants to buy plastic laptops any more?
I barely want two machines. It seems like I'll be stuck on Core 2 forever. Thank god I'm not trapped with Apple.Why do you think they do ? Maybe it's you who wants 3-4 computers.
Stuck ?
Look, Apple doesn't have to cater to your "wants". They aim for some markets, and if you're not in them, they aren't forcing you to buy their stuff.
I want 1 machine. Apple gives that to me. And it happens to be the MacBook Air 13.3". I don't feel stuck with Core 2 Duo, in fact, you still have to explain to me what is it exactly that Core iX does that Core 2 Duo doesn't do and that you absolutely need. For my part, instructions get executed, be it on a Core 2 Duo, an Athlon X2, a Phenom, a Core i3 or heck even a Pentium.
(Ah, heck, let's assume I am.)
Refurb white MacBook: $759.
64GB SSD: $115
Remove 2.1 lbs, 1.5" diagonal, and ~0.5" thickness: not available
Total cost: $874, and it's still bigger/thicker/heavier/older/plastic.
Wait a few weeks and you'll be able to get the 11" MBA2 refurbed for that price.
It's a staring contest of boredom. It makes me wonder why I ever bought a Mac in the first place.Stuck ?
Look, Apple doesn't have to cater to your "wants". They aim for some markets, and if you're not in them, they aren't forcing you to buy their stuff.
I want 1 machine. Apple gives that to me. And it happens to be the MacBook Air 13.3".
Answer the question for once, it's quite simple : What does Core iX offer you that makes it a "need" over Core 2 Duo ? What is it Core 2 Duo cannot do for you that Core iX does ?
For once, stop dodging. And if you don't want a Mac, no one is holding a gun to your head.
Hyperthreading since we're stuck with dual core notebooks. I need just a one or two more threads. I can't write off my computers as a business expensive and I don't have any grants padding my wallet.
That leaves me waiting for a Core 2 replace...that's not happening.
Tell that to Apple and my trapped data. Thank God I managed to stop caring about Spotlight.For once, stop dodging. And if you don't want a Mac, no one is holding a gun to your head.
I would have phrased it differently then. Anyone for a million next quarter? I doubt it. I don't think I've seen anyone mention that the Air is deceptively priced. The only way to go from 2 - 4 Gigs of RAM is to do the upgrade when you order it (as we're talking soldered in RAM), which is $100 more. You are a fool if you think you can get decent performance out of 2 Gigs RAM on Leopard, Snow Leopard, or Lion. I think Apple should have made 4 GB standard and just priced the Air accordingly. Of course they wanted to get below that 1K barrier, but its a really crummy way to do it.
Interest duly piqued: is that a want, or an actual need? if the latter, how so? Genuine curiosity.
Some posters are just making the fair point that there is very little which any given processor cannot do short of "do X faster". If speed is a real need, fine, but Apple's apparent observation is most users don't need more speed, they need more connectivity (a la "cloud computing") and the "underpowered" brains of the MBA2 is still fine for most.
Cloud computing, streaming to an AppleTV, or even getting more than songs off of iTunes on 768 kbps? Please tell me you're paying for this magical cloud and HD downloads wave of the future nonsense that is supposedly here today.
I don't even want to consider how I'd manage my files on 128 GB much less 64 GB. Hilarious considering what plebs I see everyday.
Failing my trapped data ATI and nVidia need to catch up on their midrange GPUs. I need the hyperthreading to render frames faster without killing my battery life on a quad that Apple will never offer.
I'm not cool enough to get another Mac.
This will be a big hit. You watch.
Three of my friends -- all females, interestingly enough -- are getting the Air this week. Why?
1. It's crazy light. That matters to a lot of people.
2. It's more capable than the iPad, which is the only hyper-light OSX/iOS alternative at the moment. No, the MacBook isn't.
3. It handles their entire work load. Editing docs, doing email, wrassling spreadsheets, giving presentations, web research, blah blah blah. And running Photoshop Elements, in one case. They're not graphics pros or code jockeys, and they don't need more horsepower.
4. The build quality is very high.
5. They live in the Apple ecosystem, and rely on various aspects of OSX to do their work. These are all former Windows users, as it happens, and I don't hear any desire to revert back to that adventure.
6. They can afford it.
Sound like anyone you know?
Case closed.
I am seeing the same around here. Just hope you are not stuck in the friends zone with these girls and getting more than opinions of Apple products.
Answer the question for once, it's quite simple : What does Core iX offer you that makes it a "need" over Core 2 Duo ? What is it Core 2 Duo cannot do for you that Core iX does ?
For once, stop dodging. And if you don't want a Mac, no one is holding a gun to your head.
Why pay todays prices for last years tech?
I think its more principal than anything. I dont care whether I NEED an i5 or i7.. You are right who needs that?
But I presume if you frequent this forum you are aware of tech. Being in that position, doesnt it suck knowing that if you want to buy apple, you want to pay a premium price for last years tech??
I think the macbook air, particularly the smaller one, is a great idea. The bigger one I think competes too much with the 13" MBP to be honest.
If I were to consider an ipad for something more portable, I'd be much more likely to poney up more money and get the 11.6" macbook air and get a full computer with a real keyboard and a full OS instead.
But I really like the new macbook airs. Just for me, not sure I'd pick one over what I have. I certainly wouldn't replace my MBP with one (I'd buy it as a more portable computer but honestly, my current MBP is pretty portable and I like having all my stuff on one computer and access to it where I go so I probably wouldn't buy an extra computer for portability. I'd more likely buy an extra computer as a gaming machine).
If I were to consider an ipad for something more portable, I'd be much more likely to poney up more money and get the 11.6" macbook air and get a full computer with a real keyboard and a full OS instead.
But I really like the new macbook airs. Just for me, not sure I'd pick one over what I have. I certainly wouldn't replace my MBP with one (I'd buy it as a more portable computer but honestly, my current MBP is pretty portable and I like having all my stuff on one computer and access to it where I go so I probably wouldn't buy an extra computer for portability. I'd more likely buy an extra computer as a gaming machine).
Folks...yeah its compact, yeah its beautiful, yeah it has Solid State Storage
But an introductory price of 999.99 for a pretty piece of aluminum with 2.5+ year old hardware? This is silliness people. If it had "VAIO" on the shell, everyone would be laughing...Dont drink thejuice this time.
Pretty piece of aluminium? That's the reason why I buy Apple laptops.
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Umm, ah, I guess 700,000 units will get sold.
Based on what?
Umm, ah, I guess 700,000 units will get sold.
Based on what?
Apple's own figures put their Mac sales at 13.7 mill....total.
the 'computer market' worldwide is around or just over 300 mill units.
13.7 / 300 = ....
you fill in the blank and tell me how far away from 10% they are.
Answer the question for once, it's quite simple : What does Core iX offer you that makes it a "need" over Core 2 Duo ? What is it Core 2 Duo cannot do for you that Core iX does ?
For once, stop dodging. And if you don't want a Mac, no one is holding a gun to your head.
What does a Core 2 Duo offer over a Pentium III? Software eats up more and more resources with every release... Thats why people desire to have an up to date processor. Anything from Flash, Google Maps, movies, iphoto, Photoshop, Office is going to be noticeably slower on a 1.4 C2D.
Would you pay a grand for a Pentium laptop if it had an Apple logo on it? What about a 20 gig hardrive? Why not?
And as to your second point, the purpose of this forum is to debate things just like this.. Not to worship a certain corporation.
I think the new Airs are by far the worlds best netbooks... but they are being sold at premium notebook prices.
Folks...yeah its compact, yeah its beautiful, yeah it has Solid State Storage
But an introductory price of 999.99 for a pretty piece of aluminum with 2.5+ year old hardware? This is silliness people. If it had "VAIO" on the shell, everyone would be laughing...Dont drink the
For everyday tasks, my $999 MBA is faster than my $2,200 i7 iMac because of the flash storage, which, by the way, is faster than any SSD Apple has ever shipped. The latest C2D chips were released in 2009, so it's hardly 2.5+ year hardware.
Do you been trapped with Apple, with ATI and nVidia, but still complain about the processors which is Intel. Aren't you trapped with it?
If Apple used a C2D then you should "blame" Intel not Apple. Unfortunately the market offer only few option when comes in CPU/GPU in the mobile enviroment, and this topic have been exausted since last MacBook Pro updates.
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Do people want a Smart with a 4000cc engine just to go from A to B? No, they buy a Ferrari if they want that.
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To back up my comments: http://apcmag.com/nvidia-slams-intel-for-chipset-lockout-on-core-processors.htm
MBA ~ just bought 2
I think you are correct, sort of....
The iPad drives me insane re: typing. I think the 11 inch model is going to be the awesome bedside surfing, responding to late night email (with Mac Office 2011 instead of Mail as the client), etc type of machine.
The 13 inch will be a killer replacement to the plastic MacBook.
How do I know? I just bought one of each. The 11 inch to go into my home office/bedside and the 13 inch for a son with a black MacBook on its last legs (mainboard having occassional issues...on death watch now).
2 down, 749,998 machines to go for this analyst to be in the ballpark.
I think you are correct, sort of....
The iPad drives me insane re: typing. I think the 11 inch model is going to be the awesome bedside surfing, responding to late night email (with Mac Office 2011 instead of Mail as the client), etc type of machine.
The 13 inch will be a killer replacement to the plastic MacBook.
How do I know? I just bought one of each. The 11 inch to go into my home office/bedside and the 13 inch for a son with a black MacBook on its last legs (mainboard having occassional issues...on death watch now).
2 down, 749,998 machines to go for this analyst to be in the ballpark.
MBA v Core i7
Dr. J,
I think you nailed it. I absolutely LOVE my Core i7 MBP. The thing is dang fast once I have it booted. It really shines running VMWare Fusion which in turn is running Win 7 and a bunch of Win7 stuff I have to run for work. You can hear the processor really having to work its tail off to drive Fusion/Win7, but it works brilliantly.
HOWEVER, for what I spend 95% of my time doing, the MBA will be awesome. I have seen the C2D chips running with some of our design group and they work fine on the MBP 13 inch machines. Plenty of speed and these guys are doing some intensive graphics and HTML work.
Now imagine that chip with the SSD drive installed. I concur that it will be difficult to tell the difference between these notebook computers (all of them) in terms of speed unless you are doing massive graphics, sound and/or video work -- which should probably be best done on a Mac Pro anyway.
I was also really surprised (pleasantly so) that these MBA's came with a minidisplay port. This means you can drive your 24/27 inch Apple displays at the same resolution (I recall) as my Core i7 MBP can. That is impressive. Also, with the Monoprice minidisplay + USB *to* HDMI dongle for $49, you can drive HDMI output to an LCD TV pretty easily. Not sure if this includes digital audio (???), but it could be great.
I cannot wait to unbox the new machines and give them a go.
Dr. J,
I think you nailed it. I absolutely LOVE my Core i7 MBP. The thing is dang fast once I have it booted. It really shines running VMWare Fusion which in turn is running Win 7 and a bunch of Win7 stuff I have to run for work. You can hear the processor really having to work its tail off to drive Fusion/Win7, but it works brilliantly.
HOWEVER, for what I spend 95% of my time doing, the MBA will be awesome. I have seen the C2D chips running with some of our design group and they work fine on the MBP 13 inch machines. Plenty of speed and these guys are doing some intensive graphics and HTML work.
Now imagine that chip with the SSD drive installed. I concur that it will be difficult to tell the difference between these notebook computers (all of them) in terms of speed unless you are doing massive graphics, sound and/or video work -- which should probably be best done on a Mac Pro anyway.
I was also really surprised (pleasantly so) that these MBA's came with a minidisplay port. This means you can drive your 24/27 inch Apple displays at the same resolution (I recall) as my Core i7 MBP can. That is impressive. Also, with the Monoprice minidisplay + USB *to* HDMI dongle for $49, you can drive HDMI output to an LCD TV pretty easily. Not sure if this includes digital audio (???), but it could be great.
I cannot wait to unbox the new machines and give them a go.