Analysts Dispute Supply Chain Conclusions of iPad Production Cuts

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Earlier today, a report from JPMorgan analysts made headlines for its claim that Apple has slashed its fourth quarter iPad production plans by 25%, sparking speculation and rumors that Apple may be planning a price cut amid weakening demand.


    The Wall Street Journal notes, however, that several analysts have already spoken out against the conclusion, arguing that a single supply chain data point is insufficient to warrant such drastic production cut predictions. From Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster:
    Analysts also note that Apple appears to have actually accelerated production and bumped up third quarter orders to stockpile iPads heading into the holiday shopping season. Sources also indicate that Apple is likely to begin production of the iPad 3 at the end of the fourth quarter or early in 2012 and may be accelerating production now in order to ease that transition.

    Apple struggled with the transition from iPad to iPad 2 production earlier this year, with weak sales coming in the first quarter of this year as Apple scaled down production of the original iPad and was unable to meet heavy initial demand for the iPad 2. From Susquehanna analyst Chris Caso:
    Some have suggested that the fourth quarter production cuts may be due to Apple shifting some production to Brazil by the end of the year, although most of Apple's Asian component suppliers would be expected to be serving that production channel in addition to the existing Chinese channel.

    Apple's stock dropped as much 3% earlier today as the initial report circulated, but has since rebounded and is currently down only about 1.25%.

    Article Link: Analysts Dispute Supply Chain Conclusions of iPad Production Cuts
  2. mouthbreather macrumors newbie

    Sep 12, 2011
  3. Serelus macrumors 6502a


    Aug 11, 2009
    There isn't going to be a new iPad this year it seems O:!

    Damnit that wasn't going to be my first first post :(
  4. Daremo macrumors 68020


    Jul 3, 2007
  5. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    These analysts are no different in their predictions than the kiddies in the iPhone forum. Wondering why MR and others publish obviously market manipulation stories.
  6. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    Come on a single data point is never enough to draw a conclusion.
    All it is good for is to raise a flag to see if something is worth tracking and to dig deeper to see if it is a fluke or a pattern.
  7. acidfast7 macrumors 65816


    Nov 22, 2008
    I told you there was no way that Apple was sell 50M iPads this year due to market saturation.
  8. Mattsasa macrumors 68020


    Apr 12, 2010
    in other news: Apple is wiping iCloud data as we speak!

    and invitations should go out tomorrow, and stock will go back up
  9. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    It's haters en masse claiming the end times for Apple and the collapse of Apple's "fads", whenever there's an unusual blip on the radar.

    This is the funniest part of all:

    Apple may be planning a price cut amid weakening demand.

    I had to re-read that because I couldn't stop laughing. The tears blurred the letters.

    Apple sells a record number of iPads last quarter, and then a mere two months later into the next quarter demand drops??? Uh-huh.

    They're actually on track to sell more, because if you want a tablet the iPad is really the only viable choice.
  10. hcho3 macrumors 68030

    May 13, 2010
    Oh stupid analysts...

    Apple sales are not slowing down anytime soon. No one knows how many iPad 2s apple placed for Q4 2011.

    Next 3 months, we have Black Friday and Christmas Shopping. So, somehow apple sales will go down. Okay...
  11. igazza macrumors 6502a


    Aug 7, 2007
    somebody tell me why i should upgrade from ipad 1 ?
  12. aristokrat macrumors regular

    Apr 15, 2007
    Called it. As I said in the last thread, this was professional and bald-faced market manipulation. What all the other analysts are saying about one data point being too little to base a predication on, that's exactly the point: this analyst can back up his ridiculous claims based on "real" evidence, right after he dumped some stock and then picked it up again 3% cheaper. The SEC should pay this guy a visit.
  13. Consultant macrumors G5


    Jun 27, 2007
    It could also be:

    Brazil iPad production
    Switching some capacity to make new iPhone
  14. transmaster macrumors 6502


    Feb 1, 2010
    And Other "Experts"

    Are saying Apple is nervous about the "Amazon Kindle" due to be released very soon. Which will have the same form factor as the Kindle ebook reader, with an Amazon custom version of Andriod, and will access Amazon, like the iPad does iTunes. The "Amazon Kindle" is supposed to sell for $250 dollars.
  15. igazza macrumors 6502a


    Aug 7, 2007
    Or all those rumors of ipad 3 coming this year.
  16. mattwolfmatt macrumors 65816


    Jun 7, 2008
    I know my desire to buy an iPad 2 decreases with each day, because each new day brings us closer to the inevitable ipad 3, whenever that may be. I've waited this long, I can wait another ___ months.
  17. nanotlj macrumors regular

    Jan 15, 2008
    It is just crazy to see all the stocks go unusually high under such a depressing economic conditions. Is wall street creating another bubble?
  18. FunkyChicken macrumors member


    May 28, 2004
    Toronto, Ontario
    Oh come on...

    ....when was the last time Apple offered a price cut?? :confused:
  19. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    I'd be nervous too about the possibility of another late entrant into the tablet market messing with my IP.

    It might be time for Apple's legal team to pre-book a few court dates.
  20. wowotoe macrumors member

    Jun 25, 2007
    So why is this not consider stock price manipulation when coming from a big firm JPMorgan? SEC should really look into how they benefited from spreading rumors.
  21. dewski macrumors 6502

    Aug 20, 2011
    i saw no reason to upgrade but we did anyway. the speed and responsiveness is the biggest upgrade for me. i think the iPad 1 was easier to hold, but the iPad 2 is lighter so it makes up for it. i wouldn't have bought an ipad2 outright, but we sold the 1st one for 500
  22. Claefer macrumors regular


    Jun 1, 2011
    This is the Windows 8 effect. You think it's a coincidence that demand for the iPad 2 has dropped a staggering 25 percent after Microsoft released the Windows 8 preview?
  23. Resident Guru macrumors member

    Jul 11, 2008
    We sell the iPads at my store. They do not fly off the shelves as they used to. They kinda sit there. They do sell, just quite slowly.
  24. alent1234 macrumors 603

    Jun 19, 2009
    nope, my father in law who can barely get to google by himself on his laptop is downloading it as i type this to install on his laptop
  25. GQB macrumors 65816

    Sep 26, 2007
    Flat out market manipulation.
    Not much to be done except to play the game.
    Sell enough on spikes to be able to buy when crap like this happens.
    Still, its annoying.

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