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You're right, it is expensive. And I think that's why Apple offered the iPhone 8 under the iPhone X. They realize iPhone X is not for everyone given the price point and as good as the iPhone X is, the iPhone 8 is still a secondary option for consumers that want a similar form factor and touch ID.
Choices are always a good thing. People are not "forced" to buy the X like some have stated here. The 8 is more than enough upgrade from a 6.
 
The price is high but many people don't buy it outright so 5 or 10$ more each month doesn't make a big difference on a bill.
After the first wave of die-hard customers it is easy to predict a slower demand, but it doesn't mean X will stop selling or it is a flop. From a customer perspective I think it is better to have more 8 sold than X, or Apple will continue increasing the price of its flagship phone.
 
All this “the price tag the price tag” seriously - how many of you *think* that Apple itself believed the X would appeal to the mass market right out of the gate.

Regardless of what people here on these blogs say and opine about - I’m in creative marketing - this iteration the X is a product that is — to the Apple 1 billion customer base - ahead of the curve. While I or you are early adopters and we get the non home button gesture driven device - after myself owning it a month I do have the ability to step outside my head and conclude this phones functions are a b r a n d n e w experience - top to bottom.

I never once thought that if the X was it then why would Apple still do the 8 series ? Because this is all by design. If not then why is the 7 still in its mix?

Those of you that are convinced Apple is floating aimlessly - your severely mistaken. The X will not fail because by whose measure will that be?

Gee what the hell is the difference between them offering a MacBook Air and a MacBook Pro. The other issue is the ASP - the X will bring huge amounts of money selling LESS. Duh. If this wasn’t the plan then why didn’t Apple just do an X and X plus out of the gate?

Also do all if you doubters *think* that when Apple threw up a global multi million dollar advance ad campaign on the X that they did that hastily at time where ALL reports from EVERY analyst said there were component issues????

Seriously? Being in the ad business and the billboard real estate that Apple owns just in the US the answer is NO. THE STAGGERED RELEASE WAS PLANNED.

PERIOD. The X is a new animal and won’t and shouldn’t appeal to Apples broad base. It’s designed for its core customer and that WILL spend more.
 
I find it interesting a lot of posts and news items everywhere talk about how expensive the iPhone X is when in reality is isn't that far from the iPhone 8 Plus, literally a $200 difference. Most people won't care because they buy their phones with 0% interest payment plans provided by their carrier or Apple to make it affordable. For $200 to the average consumer you're talking about a $8.33 month monthly payment difference over a 24 month period which is how a lot of carriers will present it to you. If you can afford to buy a $799 phone with cash or a credit card, how can you really complain about not being able to afford a $999 phone? I'm not saying the phones are cheap, but Apple and other companies will push prices as high as the market can bare, and will continue do so. Making all these articles completely baseless.
 
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For me the price isn't an issue, sure it's more expensive which is bad but I paid £819 for my iPhone 7 Plus so going to £999 isn't that much of a stretch.

For me the notch, smaller physical size than the Plus are my main reasons for not buying. Also FaceID isn't something I want, I'd prefer TouchID.

For me this is quite a divisive iPhone where as the previous models have all been something I wanted this is one I actually don't want to own. But I'll probably buy another iPhone eventually, just not this model.
 
If I had stayed with apple it would have been with a 7. The X is far too expensive for what it is. However I have found the Pixel 2 XL is much more to my liking and I got it at a cheaper price than even a used 7 would have run me. Not having to deal with Siri and apple maps as well as a host of other things was well worth it to me.
 
Apple is busy preparing a software “update” for your iPhones that will make you reconsider.

It appears that Apple’s updates in and of themselves don’t cause drastic performance degradation, it’s the combination of a weak battery and increased need for processor power. Other phones manufacturers have the same problem with new OS’s and 2 or 3 year old phones. Doesn’t excuse Apple from not telling users that they were inhibiting performance and why.

Now, if people replace their older battery and their performance doesn’t improve THEN everyone should join the class action lawsuit, because the stated cause and effect would be proven to be a lie.
 
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So color me confused but the Note is still in the 950 and 960 price range which with the 10 percent sales tax where I live pushes it to over 1000.00.

Yet the iPhone X which has all types of new camera sensors etc is priced too high? The only new change for the Note were the dual cameras which the iPhone 7 Plus already had.

I just see a bit of bias that’s all.
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You will be passing on many of the future iterations. With Apple there is no bringing back old features.

Touch ID is dead.

You can’t compare the Note with a stylus and 6.3 inch display to an iPhone X.
 
So color me confused but the Note is still in the 950 and 960 price range which with the 10 percent sales tax where I live pushes it to over 1000.00.

Yet the iPhone X which has all types of new camera sensors etc is priced too high? The only new change for the Note were the dual cameras which the iPhone 7 Plus already had.

I just see a bit of bias that’s all.
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You will be passing on many of the future iterations. With Apple there is no bringing back old features.

Touch ID is dead.

I did see some specials on the Note 8 before Christmas. I believe Best Buy had it on sale for $300 off, but I’m not sure the terms of the offer.

One could argue that the Note 8 does give you more “value” for the price with it’s larger screen, S pen, and other tablet like features. It mostly comes down to what features are important to you as a customer.
 
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According to Reuters:

Apple (AAPL.O) will slash its sales forecast for its flagship phone in the current quarter to 30 million units, down from what it said was an initial plan of 50 million units, Taiwan's Economic Daily reported, citing unidentified sources.

So Reuters wants us to believe Apple was off in its iPhone X forecast by 20 million units? Based on unidentified sources from a Taiwanese news outlet? Seriously? Apple only gives guidance one quarter out so where did this 50 million figure come from? Certainly not from Apple. So you have unnamed sources quoting a fictitious sales figure and then claiming that figure is going to be slashed by 20 million. And then Wall Street panics and the stock drops 3%. Good grief.
 
There are plenty of reasons for a slow down on this phone...

- Price
- Technical innovations don’t benefit most users
- Battery slow down news
- Liberal politics
- Human rights hypocrisy
- Smart phones becoming less exciting/novel
- Health fears
- Privacy fears
Et al.

Apple has to set the smart phone development into a different, emerging paradigm. They are still caught in 2007-2014. It is time to refine and reduce price, while returning more attention to desktops and software.
 
Price.. sure.. but again it is being looked at incorrectly. LACK OF "NEW" FEATURES! That's the reason why people aren't buying. How many on X currently are even using animojis? The OS didn't grow up.. so exactly why should regular users move from a previous phone to the new one? Oh wow, portrait mode on both cameras, ah who cares.. that feature doesn't work very well anyway and is clearly still in beta. Lack of OS enhancements, what changed for X? Oh wow I can swipe and not click things... I can use my face to purchase items.. ahh but you still have to click a button! Look I love Apple, their products really are quite amazing but their lack of new features and OS enhancements is such a joke! I could careless about the way the screen is on the X. I WANTED A NEW OS! You have got to give people something new to tinker with.. these small "new" features just aren't cutting it. And of course you have the whole battery/slow down issue hanging out there these days.. in my opinion seriously overhyped there too.. but kind of warranted knowing very well if you look at the last few versions of the software there's a slim amount of big changes.. yet some phones like 5c can't run IOS 11? Really? It's essentially 10... So yes, I can see why people aren't flocking to the X after the initial preorders. Smart people waited, watched reviews and said.. hmm 1000+ for a phone that does basically everything I can already do.. nah, I'll pass. Can't say I blame them, I use the X for app testing only. 8+ to me is my daily driver until Apple seriously changes their software. They are missing so many things that can make devices more user friendly and setup long time users with some power (user) enhancements.
 
Considering the X didn’t sell out and wasn’t that hard to get after only a few weeks, I’m not surprised. The news reports focused on the price and subconsciously $1000 is a lot for most people to swallow. That and batterygate’s bad publicity. Given that the smartphone is such a commodity these days, I’m surprised Apple even attempted the higher price. As people have said, it’s just not justified for what an iPhone can do.
 
From a german perspective FACE ID just rubs people the wrong way. People are all about privacy here given our past and i constantly hear tech handicapped people talking about how Apple is going to use your scanned face for all kind of things.

Same reason i had to unplug alexa at my parents place and people put a sticker on their IPAD front camera lol
 
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Considering the X didn’t sell out and wasn’t that hard to get after only a few weeks, I’m not surprised. The news reports focused on the price and subconsciously $1000 is a lot for most people to swallow. That and batterygate’s bad publicity. Given that the smartphone is such a commodity these days, I’m surprised Apple even attempted the higher price. As people have said, it’s just not justified for what an iPhone can do.

Rosenblatt Securities says no changes to Apple’s iPhone plans. Of course Wall Street only focuses on the negative stories.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...er-cut-rumors-says-no-changes-in-apples-plans

And if this story turns out not to be true (as is usually the case) will any of these so called analysts admit they were wrong? Of course not.
 
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All this “the price tag the price tag” seriously - how many of you *think* that Apple itself believed the X would appeal to the mass market right out of the gate.

Regardless of what people here on these blogs say and opine about - I’m in creative marketing - this iteration the X is a product that is — to the Apple 1 billion customer base - ahead of the curve. While I or you are early adopters and we get the non home button gesture driven device - after myself owning it a month I do have the ability to step outside my head and conclude this phones functions are a b r a n d n e w experience - top to bottom.

I never once thought that if the X was it then why would Apple still do the 8 series ? Because this is all by design. If not then why is the 7 still in its mix?

Those of you that are convinced Apple is floating aimlessly - your severely mistaken. The X will not fail because by whose measure will that be?

Gee what the hell is the difference between them offering a MacBook Air and a MacBook Pro. The other issue is the ASP - the X will bring huge amounts of money selling LESS. Duh. If this wasn’t the plan then why didn’t Apple just do an X and X plus out of the gate?

Also do all if you doubters *think* that when Apple threw up a global multi million dollar advance ad campaign on the X that they did that hastily at time where ALL reports from EVERY analyst said there were component issues????

Seriously? Being in the ad business and the billboard real estate that Apple owns just in the US the answer is NO. THE STAGGERED RELEASE WAS PLANNED.

PERIOD. The X is a new animal and won’t and shouldn’t appeal to Apples broad base. It’s designed for its core customer and that WILL spend more.

Unlike a lot of others I do think that the iPhone X had a lot of worthwhile features that are ahead of their competition. For me it crosses a price threshold that I cannot justify.

None of the features-FACE ID, improved cameras, quad speakers, are so different in their current form that it justifies a post $1000 pricetag. Future iterations May create features using FACE ID technology that can’t be done any other way on a practical bases, but right now it’s primary purpose is to replace passcodes and Touch ID. $50 or $100 increase and I would probably buy one-I had planned to upgrade this year. A faster processor and more memory would also be nice, but I can get them in other phones.

I am too old to be an early adopter anymore. You guys can thank me for CD’s and DVD/BluRay players as well as overclocking computers. I early adopted or did those things in the 80’s and 90’s and early 2000’s. Spent a lot of money that just 2 or 3 years later I could buy a better unit for 1/3rd the price. Now I just want something that works that I don’t have to spend a lot of time configuring or buy a lot of add on equipment. Apple attracted me by being that type of company. Not sure since dongle-mania that they still are.
 
I can only speak for myself, I was planning on buying the new iPhone but the high price made me keep my 6S for another year. At the same time I realised that it is waste of money to buy a new phone every two years so I plan to keep my future phones for at least three years from now on. So there you go Apple, thats what you get with your high prices. But I am sure there are still enough people out there who will buy it even at these prices.
 
It’s hard to justify dropping $1k+ for this when you’ll just be using the same iOS you were using before as others have stated. There’s no incentive.
No incentive for you, maybe.

For me, upgrading from the iPhone 6+, I really appreciate the camera improvements, Face Id, 3D Touch, Live Photos, the OLED display, and the speed increases.

The iPhone X runs the "same" iOS as my three-year-old iPhone 6+, but it really feels like a new phone to me. As I said, that's just me. You may not need or want any of the new features, so your old phone is good enough. But not good enough for me.
 
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