AnandTech Calls A12 Bionic in iPhone XS 'Just Margins Off' Best Desktop CPUs in New Review

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  1. Gudi macrumors 68030

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    Don’t forget that a Super Retina display powers nine pixels @3x for every four pixels @2x of a Retina display. Because of the many pixels the XS needs a gigabyte more RAM than the XR, which also constantly draws power to refresh.
     
  2. Marzel macrumors regular

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    Because there isn't. In the end of day, it's all about real life improvements on user experience. When most tasks are already fast enough for the average user, a 15-40% improvement is imperceivable. In the end of the day, it's the OS and it's features that are going to challenge the CPU and it looks like we are at a point where Apple should start being more aggressive with new features. Especially since with iOS12, all supported devices run a lot better.
     
  3. Norwegian_Imposter macrumors regular

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    Is that true about two a12’s in the iPad Pro?
     
  4. _Refurbished_ macrumors 68000

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    As much as I love the A series chips, I do not want them to touch the Macs. Bootcamp is a great tool to have, even if it’s used in certain scenarios. I love having one computer with no compatibility issues.

    That being said, the A12’s performance is nothing short of jaw dropping. Apple is clearly at the top of the top when it comes to processor efficiency. In most scenarios in 2018, efficiency is the most important metric to determine the quality of a processor.
     
  5. JCCL macrumors 6502a

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    I love my XS Max, but actual day to day performances seems the same as my previous X. Even games like Fortnite or PUBG take almost the same time to load. If it wasn’t for the big screen I wouldn’t have updated.
     
  6. Gudi macrumors 68030

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    NO!
     
  7. maka344 macrumors 65816

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    Such a shame that these processors are held back with iOS. Give us full on multitasking on iPhone!
     
  8. Thai Suspended

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    There was an article...apparently, PUBG dev (and others) may not be pushing A12 enough. PUBG currently uses 52% of GPU on X (A11), 58% on Note 9, and only 21% on Xs (A12).

    https://gizmodo.com/iphone-xs-guts-report-how-fast-is-the-a12-processor-a-1829388773

    So, yeah, in the near future, you will see games being optimized for A12. And then there will be a difference.

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    AKA...iPad.
     
  9. Scottsoapbox macrumors 6502a

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    Can't someone figure out how to install hackintosh on an iPad so we can clearly see just how close these really are?
     
  10. DNichter macrumors G3

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    I hadn't heard anything like this. Really? That's a rumor?
     
  11. brofkand macrumors 6502

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    It is a shame that all this power is hobbled by a modal OS like iOS. There really isn't a good multitasking paradigm for mobile yet. Split screen on iPad and Android is good, but that's only two apps at a time, and the apps have to support it. On a Mac or PC you're only limited by your system's resources.

    I really hope somebody figures it out. It's a shame seeing these SOC's sitting around doing nothing most of the time when they could be pushed to the limit. Of course the same could be said of many desktop-class CPU's these days too.
     
  12. Thai Suspended

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    At least my iPad Pro 2015 could have at least 2-3 windows open actively at the same time. I think Appleinsider even showed 5 windows open actively.
     
  13. DNichter macrumors G3

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    I think we'll see some improvements in iOS 13 in this regard that were pushed out to focus on performance. Although I think Apple looks to the iPad when it comes to real multitasking gains and efficiencies. App tabs are rumored to be coming to the iPad in iOS 13, which feels like a very good way to implement. Split screen on a phone would only be useful for a very niche group of people, in my opinion.
     
  14. chucker23n1 macrumors 68020

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    The current iPad Pro has an A10.
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    No. Someone earlier in the thread said they're hoping for it (which may not make sense, as the Ax is already a multi-core design anyway; it's far more likely to ship with more cores, not two distinct packages or sockets). That's all.
     
  15. DNichter macrumors G3

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    App tabs are rumored for iOS 13 on the iPad. Could be a very nice implementation if done right.
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    Makes sense now. Thanks. I expect a big update for the iPad Pro, but throwing in to A12's would be a little off.
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    We won't see this until Apple releases macOS on their A series chips. There is really no clear way to tell currently, except for benchmarks. Once Apple has the space, power, and cooling aspects down - these chips will be even more impressive.
     
  16. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 603

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    Then they'd make 5% more processors, compared to what they are making now for iPhones. It really won't make much of a difference for them.
     
  17. wigby macrumors 68000

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    Bootcamp isn't even supported in Mojave. I don't see any support for this going forward.
     
  18. madKIR macrumors 6502a

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    "...but with memory heavy workloads, power consumption was up, for an average power usage of ~3.36W on the A11 to 3.64W on the A12." and that explains why some Xs users see shorter battery life than on the X (considering the Xs battery is a bit smaller than the X one).
     
  19. chucker23n1 macrumors 68020

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    …yes it is.
     
  20. szw-mapple fan macrumors 68000

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    The iPad Pro has been able to do 3 active apps at a time plus a picture in picture video for a while now.
     
  21. Schizoid macrumors 6502a

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    All that processing power, just to make you look like a waxwork dummy when you take a selfie!
     
  22. noraa macrumors 6502

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    You can effectively have 4 windows open at the same time - though it's not necessarily a great experience. First, you have two apps open in split view - then you have a third app open in slide over mode - and then finally, you have a movie or something play in PiP mode on top of the other apps.
     
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  24. DNichter macrumors G3

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    The stock would definitely see a big bump from such an announcement, the same way Intel's did at the time Apple brought them in.
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    Really? I feel like people's heads would explode on these forums. I haven't heard that at all.
     
  25. mi7chy macrumors 603

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    Actually, Android multitasking is much closer to PC/Mac. On an old 2015 Galaxy Tab S2 had six active foreground apps plus active background UPnP/DLNA media, web and file server apps. ChromeOS is even closer.
     

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