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I just don't like the complexity that the Android brings along. People are always raving about customization, but I just want my damn phone to work perfectly without having it ask me if I want an App to access every damn available data type on my phone. Why on earth does a News app need access to my phone app???
 
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Yes because Apple having full control of your data and personal information (it’s not as secret as they say) let alone the third-party server centers the data is stored on, is any better.
 
I guess it was bound to happen, I get it due to the International community, however they could do what marketing for many international companies does, give it a different name in other markets.
That would honestly confuse the hell out of people, since we all communicate with each other on a global scale, for no good reason other than having a twee nickname. This isn't like a car having a different name in Australia, it's a worldwide software ecosystem.
 
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I guess when Apple switched from cats to california, it'd be too obvious if android made the switch to another gimmicky naming scheme too.
I don't necessarily think of companies doing this as being "gimmicky". If you have a yearly release cycle for major updates to your software platforms, and you've been having said updates for many years now, then it actually sort of helps in identifying past versions. Especially the farther back they are. For example, I may not necessarily remember "Mac OS X 10.6" but Snow Leopard on the other hand, I do remember that update and even most of the major features.

A friend of mine used to joke (this was about a decade ago) that since Apple gave all the macOS updates big cat names, that they should call iOS "House Cat" because it was just a smaller version of macOS but still had the Unix genes so to speak. That always cracked me up.
 
The real reason I dropped Android for IOS was for the inconsistency within their eco system. I would start to enjoy a native app then "BAM! Right in the kisser" they would announce that it would be changed out for a different app. This further solidifies my distaste for Android and how they do not really plan for the future.
You mean like iPhoto > Photos, LOL.
 
I'm sure 5% of the Android install base will be excited when they get this update sometime in the next year or two.

5%? Looking that good huh?

Google never cared about hardware. They provide only a base level support of features, that will work on every phone out there.
Thats why expensive smartphones with special AR chipsets were widely promoted, but Google dropped the support from Android a year later after they saw, that Apple managed AR without co-processors.
Thats why Android based smartwatches are completely dead and only Apple and Samsung are somewhat innovative in that business.
Thats why Android Tablets are still bloated phones without the phone. Google had never had an idea what to do with the additional screen estate.

Pretty spot on comment my friend....
 
Oh gosh, these jokes are as old as a dessert based OS naming scheme.... Yes it’s 100% true that vast majority of android devices never get a major update ......

People like you will never understand, that updates are not just about new features, but about security.
No, you can't just patch everything with a monthly user level patch. For some issues, you have to patch the kernel or you have to build an entire new policy system (Google did this more than once).
If you don't get a major update, you will never get any of these issues fixed.

And your claim, that users only user their phone 2-3 years is total bs.
Even those who do are selling their phone to the next user.
I still see Android phones with Android 4.x and 5 every day. Most users are totally unaware, what is the latest version, what benefits will it provide, what bugs were fixed and what malware is able to infect their phone (okay, they have Google apps on it - the widest spread malware on this planet)

I have an iPhone 4s, that's still in almost perfect condition - a few years ago, I gave it to my mother in law and she would still use it today. But there are no updates anymore, so we bought her a newer Phone.
 
I'm sure 5% of the Android install base will be excited when they get this update sometime in the next year or two.

Correction in the next five years,

Nice to see this cleaner a more professional naming, seems Android is growing up just hope they put effort in cleaning up the dreadful SDK, when I can download a simple app with zero install required and code in C,C++,Java etc on the go Android will have come of age.
 
It was fun while it lasted but probably too confusing when dessert names loop from A to Z then back to A again but a non-issue with numbering. At least it's not silly cat names or unoriginal city names.
 
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And the next release is Android Quit. Quit eating desserts already and go on a naming diet.

Of course they could have skipped Q and gone straight to Rice Crispy’s for all the snap, crackle and pop...
 
Android could become a SERIOUS competitor to Apple here in the US if they could just figure out how to properly push their major releases to all of their customers the way Apple does every year, then make their own version of iMessage with end-to-end encryption, with their own proprietary message bubbles and read receipts. Apple wouldn't know what hit em.

Thankfully, though, Android is a chaotic, hot mess and they'll likely never organize themselves in a way that accomplishes that for them. Good for Apple then I guess.
 
Yes because Apple having full control of your data and personal information (it’s not as secret as they say) let alone the third-party server centers the data is stored on, is any better.

So are you saying that how Apple treats your data and how Google/Facebook treat your data are the same?

Specifically what’s the problem with Apple storing data on Google or Amazon servers?
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People like you will never understand, that updates are not just about new features, but about security.
No, you can't just patch everything with a monthly user level patch. For some issues, you have to patch the kernel or you have to build an entire new policy system (Google did this more than once).
If you don't get a major update, you will never get any of these issues fixed.


And your claim, that users only user their phone 2-3 years is total bs.
Even those who do are selling their phone to the next user.
I still see Android phones with Android 4.x and 5 every day. Most users are totally unaware, what is the latest version, what benefits will it provide, what bugs were fixed and what malware is able to infect their phone (okay, they have Google apps on it - the widest spread malware on this planet)

I have an iPhone 4s, that's still in almost perfect condition - a few years ago, I gave it to my mother in law and she would still use it today. But there are no updates anymore, so we bought her a newer Phone.


From Google themselves:

Exploitation for many issues on Android is made more difficult by enhancements in newer versions of the Android platform. We encourage all users to update to the latest version of Android where possible.

Which is basically what you stated (in bold).
 
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So are you saying that how Apple treats your data and how Google/Facebook treat your data are the same?

Specifically what’s the problem with Apple storing data on Google or Amazon servers?
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From Google themselves:



Which is basically what you stated (in bold).

Facebook is the lowest on the list as far as treating data with care. Google and Apple are about tied. Apple does sell/trade user identifiable analytic data internally to their network of tier one teams. I personally find Apple worse as they say you have security in them but truthfully they have full access to your identity, photos, messages, all that while hiding under the statements of user privacy being their biggest priority.
 
Facebook is the lowest on the list as far as treating data with care. Google and Apple are about tied. Apple does sell/trade analytic data internally to their network of tier one teams. I personally find Apple worse as they say you have security in them but truthfully they have full access to your identity, photos, messages, all that while hiding under the statements of user privacy being their biggest priority.

Laughable that you could consider Google and Apple the same as far as privacy. Google is the company that actually wrote malware to get around "do not track" in Safari and took advantage of an expoit (instead of reporting it to Apple).

And you still haven't answered my question about Apple using Google or Amazon servers and why it's a problem.
 
The real reason I dropped Android for IOS was for the inconsistency within their eco system. I would start to enjoy a native app then "BAM! Right in the kisser" they would announce that it would be changed out for a different app. This further solidifies my distaste for Android and how they do not really plan for the future.

...Reminds me of Disney’s “handling” of the Star Wars properties (especially the sequel trilogy).
 
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