Android 10 Announced as Google Drops Dessert-Inspired Names

[Black Magic]

MacOS would probably be wise to consider doing the same. Naming every year is unnecessary. MacOS should just catch up to iOS number wise.

iOS 13, iPadOS 13, and macOS 13. Maybe watchOS too

I’d recommend updating the regular number like iOS 13 to the number of the year it was released. Example: iOS 19

 

[dwaltwhit]

It was fun while it lasted but probably too confusing when dessert names loop from A to Z then back to A again but a non-issue with numbering. At least it's not silly cat names or unoriginal city names.

I don't know what was silly about cat names. Also City names, by design are unoriginal; unless, you are suggesting Apple should have made up city names for OS iterations. That would make YOU one silly cat.

 

[CarpalMac]

Found these names childish.

You must be fun at a party.

 

[rgbrock1]

Third quarter - okay, but what year?

For some Android users: 3rd Quarter 2021.

 

[tongxinshe]

I bet iOS 13 has a higher installed base in 24 hours than Android 10 will have by this time next year.

You are only thinking from the percentage viewpoint. When you take into consideration the fact that Android's total install base is 6-10 times larger (depends on whether you only count smartphone+tablet, or include all other electronics), the story would be very different.

 

[rgbrock1]

I just don't like the complexity that the Android brings along. People are always raving about customization, but I just want my damn phone to work perfectly without having it ask me if I want an App to access every damn available data type on my phone. Why on earth does a News app need access to my phone app???

Why? So Google can keep better tabs on you.

 

[Defthand]

Is this info here just to give users something to bash? What does this have to do with anything Mac/iPhone or Apple?

Hahahaha. Great observation!

Have you seen farm-raised fish fed? The farmer tosses a scoup of fish food into a calm pond and the fish go into a feeding frenzy churning the waters.

There is nothing frivalous to some fans.

 

[rgbrock1]

Yes because Apple having full control of your data and personal information (it’s not as secret as they say) let alone the third-party server centers the data is stored on, is any better.

This may or may not be true but arguable. what is not arguable, but fact, is that Google follows you around the Internet EVERY SINGLE WEB SITE you visit, EVERY SINGLE EMAIL YOU SEND and EVERY SINGLE EMAIL YOU RECEIVE. This is observable via tracking software.

Apple does not.

 

[Mdracer]

You mean like iPhoto > Photos, LOL.

EXACTLY, you can see how difficult it was to move all

You mean like iPhoto > Photos, LOL.

I can see your point here, except with apple I didn't have to migrate all of my images onto a new app platform. in regards to Android, the SMS messaging apps have been a complete disaster and have never quite stuck. IMHO.

 

[techwhiz]

I bet iOS 13 has a higher installed base in 24 hours than Android 10 will have by this time next year.

That would be because Apple pesters you to update and at some point won't let you install the old OS anyway.
It's difficult to compare an ecosystem where one vendor controls everything from end to end and where the other just makes an OS for OEMs (yeah Google makes phones too).

 

[rgbrock1]

Facebook is the lowest on the list as far as treating data with care. Google and Apple are about tied. Apple does sell/trade user identifiable analytic data internally to their network of tier one teams. I personally find Apple worse as they say you have security in them but truthfully they have full access to your identity, photos, messages, all that while hiding under the statements of user privacy being their biggest priority.

They have access to none of that if you're smart enough to have FileVault turned on.

 

[B4U]

Cannot think of a desert that starts with the letter “Q”.

 

[techwhiz]

For some Android users: 3rd Quarter 2021.

Which is why if you want immediate support you don't buy Samsung or some of the other vendors.
If you buy Google or OnePlus, you get immediate updates and regular security patches.

 

[realtuner]

Luckily 100% of new Android phones will.

Sure, 5-6 months after it comes out. And even then only for flagships. That's how long I waited on both my Note 8 and Note 9. There are lots of brand-new Android phones out there that ship with an older version of Android. Budget phones (the majority of Android) are commonly shipped with a a 2 year old version (for example, there are phones in the US right now that ship with Android 8.1).

You are only thinking from the percentage viewpoint. When you take into consideration the fact that Android's total install base is 6-10 times larger (depends on whether you only count smartphone+tablet, or include all other electronics), the story would be very different.

Patently false. Google announced 2.5 billion active Android devices at Google I/O in May this year. Apple claimed 1.4 billion active iOS devices in Jan of this year. That puts it at 74% Android and 36% iOS. Nowhere near your 6-10 times claim.
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That would be because Apple pesters you to update and at some point won't let you install the old OS anyway.
It's difficult to compare an ecosystem where one vendor controls everything from end to end and where the other just makes an OS for OEMs (yeah Google makes phones too).

Microsoft makes Windows for OEMs to use. They don't have a problem issuing updates to everyone. It's a massive failure on the part of Google that has caused this problem.

 

[Bustycat]

So you're admitting that only 5% of Android users care about those features, and that the other 95% don't have a clue? And you realize that the next iOS update supports most of those that you just listed?
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So you're saying that "Android 10" is pronounced "Android X" in much the same way that "iPhone XR" is pronounced iPhone Ex-Arrrrr"?

Most of people I know do pronounce ‘Ex-Arrrrr’. That X for 10 is really confusing for people not speaking English.

 

[brinary001]

I didn't mean "gimmicky" as a bad thing... but rather as a clever point of differentiation. Apple was the first to add a consumer-facing name to their numeric releases to make them more approachable, and Android did the same thing with an arguably more consumer-friendly moniker... desserts vs wild cats. It always seemed to me like a blatant rip-off. My point was that since apple switched themes but staying on the same strategy, if android switched too, it would further seem like they were just following what apple did instead of carving their own trail.

Oh I gotcha. Sorry, usually on this site when anyone mentions the word gimmicky they mean it as a criticism.

 

[rgbrock1]

Sure, 5-6 months after it comes out. And even then only for flagships. That's how long I waited on both my Note 8 and Note 9. There are lots of brand-new Android phones out there that ship with an older version of Android. Budget phones (the majority of Android) are commonly shipped with a a 2 year old version (for example, there are phones in the US right now that ship with Android 8.1).




Patently false. Google announced 2.5 billion active Android devices at Google I/O in May this year. Apple claimed 1.4 billion active iOS devices in Jan of this year. That puts it at 74% Android and 36% iOS. Nowhere near your 6-10 times claim.
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Microsoft makes Windows for OEMs to use. They don't have a problem issuing updates to everyone. It's a massive failure on the part of Google that has caused this problem.

Also keep in mind that the 2.5 billion active Android devices Google claims also include "Smart" TV's, most of which run Android. So if you just kept the installed-base numbers at phones and tablets I think the numbers between the two would become a lot closer.

 

[jona2125]

They have access to none of that if you're smart enough to have FileVault turned on.

Apple surprisingly doesn't have a good way into devices, only services used. So yeah if you're not using iCloud, you're already ahead of the curve
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This may or may not be true but arguable. what is not arguable, but fact, is that Google follows you around the Internet EVERY SINGLE WEB SITE you visit, EVERY SINGLE EMAIL YOU SEND and EVERY SINGLE EMAIL YOU RECEIVE. This is observable via tracking software.

Apple does not.

Apple does, consumers just don't have the capacity to see it. They "anonymous tag" Apple says they pool you into so outside sources cannot intercept your identity in the tracking info is very broad and can be reversed easily by them for use to identify a user if needed/wanted.

Every service you use by Apple is 100% open for their access and use. And they do access and use it frequently

 

[Mousse]

The thing about named versions is they become ambiguous and you start forgetting which version is which. At least numbers you can determine the age of an OS.

Android names are easy to tell which version is older which is newer. It's in alphabetical order: Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, Ice cream sandwich, Jellybean, Kitkat, Lollipop, Marshmallow, Nougat, Oreo, Pie.

 

[realtuner]

Apple does, consumers just don't have the capacity to see it. They "anonymous tag" Apple says they pool you into so outside sources cannot intercept your identity in the tracking info is very broad and can be reversed easily by them for use to identify a user if needed/wanted.

Every service you use by Apple is 100% open for their access and use. And they do access and use it frequently

For someone who (based on what you've said) appears to work for Apple either as an employee or contractor, do you really think you should be handing out this information about what Apple does? Especially when you add your own little "Apple is no more private than Google" spin to it?

 

[Axemantitan]

Found these names childish.

Not only childish, but confusing.

"Are you running Marshmallow or Kit Kat?"

"I don't have any idea…"

 

[cmaus]

Uhm... what's that supposed to be?
A trailer that uses a lot of cool effects just to show how they remodelled their logo? And that's all they want to show?
Poor…

When Apple pulls off effects like those in that video, there's usually their product design involved, but this…

 

[mi7chy]

I expect my phone to somewhat behave like a PC/Mac, which Android does better than iOS.

iOS and Android target different markets so neither is more correct than the other. Android is more versatile as a computer replacement while iOS is more simple since it does less. So, while single ecosystem fanboys dwell only on updates which is only a small subset of the overall picture, Android is further advance in features, has better apps compatibility with older Android versions (minimum target recently changed from Android 5 to 6 while current is 9), still support 32-bit apps vs a lot of 32-bit iOS apps lost that haven't been updated, several system updates delivered through Google Play Store, hardware specs more feature proof, etc. so Android devices have longer usable life. Personally, I like the versatility of Android over my iOS devices but recommend iOS to retirees I help out so there's room for both.

 

[Timemaster]

Android could become a SERIOUS competitor to Apple here in the US if they could just figure out how to properly push their major releases to all of their customers the way Apple does every year, then make their own version of iMessage with end-to-end encryption, with their own proprietary message bubbles and read receipts. Apple wouldn't know what hit em.

Thankfully, though, Android is a chaotic, hot mess and they'll likely never organize themselves in a way that accomplishes that for them. Good for Apple then I guess.

Google has been getting onto that with project Treble. That separates out the low level hardware layer from the OS. This allows for much faster updates as the hardware vendors do not have to update code to work with newer OS.
It been ongoing but in theory it should speed up update speeds and 2 make it a lot easier for manufactures to get out updates. I would not be surprised to see Google find a way longer term to get it to happen even faster with at least smaller releases.

 

[Black Magic]

Android names are easy to tell which version is older which is newer. It's in alphabetical order: Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, Ice cream sandwich, Jellybean, Kitkat, Lollipop, Marshmallow, Nougat, Oreo, Pie.

someone new to Android phones would have no idea what the last letter they stopped at for the OS. Also, carrier reps get incentives to push certain phones old or new.