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Android 10 Announced as Google Drops Dessert-Inspired Names

realtuner said:
Laughable that you could consider Google and Apple the same as far as privacy. Google is the company that actually wrote malware to get around "do not track" in Safari and took advantage of an expoit (instead of reporting it to Apple).

And you still haven't answered my question about Apple using Google or Amazon servers and why it's a problem.
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You should get into a tier one contract and see what Apple does to violate privacy. They can actively pull up a users location at any moment, with no notice to them. It’s laughable you guys believe so deeply in what this company says they do versus what they really do.

As far as Amazon/Google servers, it’s that you don’t trust Google but are fine with Apple storing your data on them, with access to it. If you use iCloud you are completely vulnerable to ALL your personal data being compromised as they “unique” key is stored with your data
 
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brinary001 said:
I don't necessarily think of companies doing this as being "gimmicky". If you have a yearly release cycle for major updates to your software platforms, and you've been having said updates for many years now, then it actually sort of helps in identifying past versions. Especially the farther back they are. For example, I may not necessarily remember "Mac OS X 10.6" but Snow Leopard on the other hand, I do remember that update and even most of the major features.

A friend of mine used to joke (this was about a decade ago) that since Apple gave all the macOS updates big cat names, that they should call iOS "House Cat" because it was just a smaller version of macOS but still had the Unix genes so to speak. That always cracked me up.
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I didn't mean "gimmicky" as a bad thing... but rather as a clever point of differentiation. Apple was the first to add a consumer-facing name to their numeric releases to make them more approachable, and Android did the same thing with an arguably more consumer-friendly moniker... desserts vs wild cats. It always seemed to me like a blatant rip-off. My point was that since apple switched themes but staying on the same strategy, if android switched too, it would further seem like they were just following what apple did instead of carving their own trail.
 
Google announced a new phone OS which does exactly what the commercial does: animates fonts and nothing else.
I so wish their OS would be good.
I like other HW phones than iPhone but the OS.... My God.... doesn’t do justice.
 
Is this info here just to give users something to bash? What does this have to do with anything Mac/iPhone or Apple?
 
Same here......there was alot I liked about it years ago....but they failed and failed to come up with a cohesive message system with SMS built in.....which to me is important. They would come up with a message system, and then abandoned it.

Apple is hardly perfect.....but they get enough right I can live with the negatives.

Mdracer said:
The real reason I dropped Android for IOS was for the inconsistency within their eco system. I would start to enjoy a native app then "BAM! Right in the kisser" they would announce that it would be changed out for a different app. This further solidifies my distaste for Android and how they do not really plan for the future.
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dmylrea said:
Is this info here just to give users something to bash? What does this have to do with anything Mac/iPhone or Apple?
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I doubt it. That wouldn't top the bash inducing effectiveness of posts that include the words "Mac Pro, iMac Pro, Homepod, butterfly keyboard, ProRes Display."
 
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macduke said:
I'm sure 5% of the Android install base will be excited when they get this update sometime in the next year or two.
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5% is about amount of Android users who care about placebo iOS updates when they've been enjoying Android features for nearly a decade that iOS has yet to get like moving home screen icons anywhere/personalization, real file manager, external storage support, mouse support with proper pointer, split screen multitasking, background multitasking, swiping away unwanted calls so it doesn't tie up phone, freedom to install Kodi/emulators/torrent clients, etc.
 
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jona2125 said:
You should get into a tier one contract and see what Apple does to violate privacy. They can actively pull up a users location at any moment, with no notice to them. It’s laughable you guys believe so deeply in what this company says they do versus what they really do.

As far as Amazon/Google servers, it’s that you don’t trust Google but are fine with Apple storing your data on them, with access to it. If you use iCloud you are completely vulnerable to ALL your personal data being compromised as they “unique” key is stored with your data
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Why don’t you show us this “contract” and compare it to Google?

Google doesn’t have access to iCloud data on their servers. Neither does Amazon.
 
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meaning-matters said:
Found these names childish.
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I found them hard to follow. Apple has their own alternative naming scheme on the Mac OS side of things, but a key difference is that Mac OS doesn't have the volatility of the Android OS. A Samsung Tab that I bought just three years ago can't run lots of current day apps because it's stuck on 4.4 Kitkat. As an infrequent Android user, I have no idea whether I can use something or not when someone forgets to give me the version number along with the cute name.

It's installed with Kitkat (4.4). That means I can use Jellybean (4.3), but not Lollipop (5.0). Totally confusing and none of those are really that old.
 
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mi7chy said:
5% is about amount of Android users who care about placebo iOS updates when they've been enjoying Android features for nearly a decade that iOS has yet to get like moving home screen icons anywhere/personalization, real file manager, external storage support, mouse support with proper pointer, split screen multitasking, background multitasking, swiping away unwanted calls so it doesn't tie up phone, freedom to install Kodi/emulators/torrent clients, etc.
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So you're admitting that only 5% of Android users care about those features, and that the other 95% don't have a clue? And you realize that the next iOS update supports most of those that you just listed?
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It's pronounced "X"
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So you're saying that "Android 10" is pronounced "Android X" in much the same way that "iPhone XR" is pronounced iPhone Ex-Arrrrr"? :p
 
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realtuner said:
Why don’t you show us this “contract” and compare it to Google?

Google doesn’t have access to iCloud data on their servers. Neither does Amazon.
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Contract of employment? Not much to see honestly.

Not normally no, but they can if provisioned by Apple/Apple's network to do so, which currently with the change in migration and data handling taking place the last few months, they've been using and accessing those backups which requires the decryption keys to be submitted
 
jona2125 said:
You should get into a tier one contract and see what Apple does to violate privacy. They can actively pull up a users location at any moment, with no notice to them. It’s laughable you guys believe so deeply in what this company says they do versus what they really do.

As far as Amazon/Google servers, it’s that you don’t trust Google but are fine with Apple storing your data on them, with access to it. If you use iCloud you are completely vulnerable to ALL your personal data being compromised as they “unique” key is stored with your data
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Just because they can doesn't mean they do; until Apple violates that trust, people have little reason not to trust them. Thus far, Apple has respected the privacy of its users. Google and Amazon has demonstrated that our privacy means little next to the almighty dollar.
 
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jona2125 said:
Contract of employment? Not much to see honestly.

Not normally no, but they can if provisioned by Apple/Apple's network to do so, which currently with the change in migration and data handling taking place the last few months, they've been using and accessing those backups which requires the decryption keys to be submitted
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My point is that a contract doesn’t give any indication of what a company actually does. Having the ability to do something is not the same as actually doing something. The TOS for major tech companies (Apple, Google, Facebook, MS...) are surprisingly similar. Most of the language is standard boilerplate stuff.

Apple collects data. Google collects data. Facebook collects data. Therefore they are equal. It’s a logical fallacy - false equivalency.

It’s asinine to claim Apple and Google are the same just because their contracts/TOS are similar or they can perform similar functions (like your example of accessing a user location).


No comment on my mentioning of Google taking advantage of a Safari exploit?
 
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The thing about named versions is they become ambiguous and you start forgetting which version is which. At least numbers you can determine the age of an OS.
 
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realtuner said:
My point is that a contract doesn’t give any indication of what a company actually does. Having the ability to do something is not the same as actually doing something. The TOS for major tech companies (Apple, Google, Facebook, MS...) are surprisingly similar. Most of the language is standard boilerplate stuff.

Apple collects data. Google collects data. Facebook collects data. Therefore they are equal. It’s a logical fallacy - false equivalency.

It’s asinine to claim Apple and Google are the same just because their contracts/TOS are similar or they can perform similar functions (like your example of accessing a user location).


No comment on my mentioning of Google taking advantage of a Safari exploit?
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No I wasn't referring to contracts as fact, I was referring to my contract providing me with the job to see firsthand of what is and isn't done.

And what is there to comment on? Good for Google?
 
mi7chy said:
5% is about amount of Android users who care about placebo iOS updates when they've been enjoying Android features for nearly a decade that iOS has yet to get like moving home screen icons anywhere/personalization, real file manager, external storage support, mouse support with proper pointer, split screen multitasking, background multitasking, swiping away unwanted calls so it doesn't tie up phone, freedom to install Kodi/emulators/torrent clients, etc.
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That's it for me.

I appreciate the heck out of Apple's ecosystem integration, chip advancements, and security initiatives, but when they get basics wrong like that, I just can't use their iOS devices. Besides the above, being able to sort mail by sender without some BS workaround is my pet-peeve. When my mother asks me to help her out with her phone or iPad it takes me forever to figure out how to do something and have to resort to the Internet in most cases. It is a FRUSTRATING experience.

For all it's moments of brilliance (iMessage is the KILLER app on this device) iOS has become an unintuitive mess unless you ALREADY know how to use it.

My Note8 is still miles ahead in the USABILITY department.

Perhaps it's because I quit with iOS7, so I don't have all that accumulated, exclusive to iOS muscle-memory.

I expect my phone to somewhat behave like a PC/Mac, which Android does better than iOS.
 
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