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Android 2.x simply can not compete with iOS 4.

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Chwisch87 said:
Well, I for a while was thinking about switching over to android (had a 3g). There was that "proof of concept" app that basically showed how you can make a botnet out of android.. Considering that there are now multiple "stores" on android, not all of which google has control over, (particularly if your phone is rooted), I decided against it.

Android makers are in this love affair with "HUGE" devices. Which, are neat, and not for me.

iOS - FAR superior battery life. Fast app switching (how is true multitasking better than this, why does a game continue to have to run code in the background while i am not using it?). I mean really the only thing that iOS doesn't have that android does is widgets. I think this is something apple is gonna add next summer "in a widgets done right" sort of situation.

Gaming for some reason, has never worked on any open source platform. Including android.
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None of my android games have ever ran in the background whilst multitasking for me. Care to list those that do so I can avoid them?

As soon as I switch out or receive a call, the game freezes/pauses and continues once I switch back or end my call.
 
Jenzo... said:
now stop trying to make people think this phone is perfect. it isnt and it has a very serious flaw that affects MANY people. maybe not you but that doesn't necessarily make it a BS issue.

-jenzo
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It doesn't have a "serious" flaw. No, I'm not a fanboy nor am I a troll. That kind of comment is ignorant and misinforms new members. Its a flaw yes, not a serious flaw.


My phone doesn't have the antenna issue. FACT :rolleyes:
 
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JediZenMaster said:
ChazUK said:
13h 19m 6s since unplugged with 57% battery left isn't bad IMO.
http://i.imgur.com/TzCkg.jpg
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Thats standby usage though right?
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I've used my nexus all day for calls/push emails/browsing/music and some games today and I mainly use my streak in the evenings (from around 3 to 4pm until around 11pm) for music/streaming, browsing and reading ebooks.

We've been out today as it is my daughter's 5th birthday so the Nexus has bore the brunt of usage so the Dell has seen a lot of standby time, yes!
 
Apple... said:
Yes you do. I don't care if the Android OS kills other apps to allow other ones to run in the background. You can't kill all of them, or individual ones without a task killer. Android is not the clear winner: you cannot conserve battery life as well, switch between apps as fast, or worry about the OS closing apps you don't want closed or apps crashing because there's not enough RAM left.
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I don't think you've fully understood his point.

You do not need a task manager at all. You don't need to close background apps because they're not using battery or cpu. They're suspended in memory.

The system doesn't crash due to lack of ram because of the way the OS shuts down unused background apps. I've never, ever witnessed a low memory warning or a crash.

With regards app switching, you only have to push a button to see your last 8 open apps and select one. Very simple and fast. I've also never even heard of Android 'closing down apps you don't want closed'... the memory management is very efficient.

Not sure where you're getting your info from but it's not very accurate...
 
tuatha said:
I don't think you've fully understood his point.

You do not need a task manager at all. You don't need to close background apps because they're not using battery or cpu. They're suspended in memory.

The system doesn't crash due to lack of ram because of the way the OS shuts down unused background apps. I've never, ever witnessed a low memory warning or a crash.

With regards app switching, you only have to push a button to see your last 8 open apps and select one. Very simple and fast. I've also never even heard of Android 'closing down apps you don't want closed'... the memory management is very efficient.

Not sure where you're getting your info from but it's not very accurate...
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If the multitasking on Android suspends the apps, then why I am I hearing that Apple's suspended app state/ fast-app switching isn't full multitasking? I'm starting to get confused... :confused:

P.S. It's not very simple and fast compared to Apple's method.
 
Compile 'em all said:
Android is a viable competitor if you are a nerd. And that's about it.
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While this is bluntly put, I don't see many 'average' users with an Android phone, they stick with the normal phones (Non-Smartphone) or something like an iPhone. I have probably 2 friends on Facebook who have the Android app and I can say that they are 'geeky'. Then again most of the users here on MR are a bit 'geekier' than most of the average population.

I don't find the UI very user friendly at all, I used an Android phone and I didn't like it at all. Not saying it's terrible, but each OS is suited to different things. Widgets and Notifications could be bettered on the iPhone, but I wouldn't want it by losing battery life.
 
Apple... said:
If the multitasking on Android suspends the apps, then why I am I hearing that Apple's suspended app state/ fast-app switching isn't full multitasking? I'm starting to get confused... :confused:

P.S. It's not very simple and fast compared to Apple's method.
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Android's isn't 'full' multitasking either, at least not in the sense of desktop computers. It's closer to it than apple's version, which is based on allowing certain services to run in the background (and prohibits others). I'm not a software engineer though, so if you want more info on the competing methods you'll have to google it ;)

I doubt the ios version is simpler than pressing a button and selecting the app you want, btw. I suspect they're both equally simple...
 
tuatha said:
Android's isn't 'full' multitasking either, at least not in the sense of desktop computers. It's closer to it than apple's version, which is based on allowing certain services to run in the background (and prohibits others). I'm not a software engineer though, so if you want more info on the competing methods you'll have to google it ;)

I doubt the ios version is simpler than pressing a button and selecting the app you want, btw. I suspect they're both equally simple...
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I would think that WebOS is actually the closest on a mobile platform to true desktop multitasking.
 
Android phones suck. Period. Not just the OS. The phones, the OS, all of it. Horrible excuse for "competition" for Apple.
 
JediZenMaster said:
I would think that WebOS is actually the closest on a mobile platform to true desktop multitasking.
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I haven't had the pleasure, unfortunately. And after the HP takeover, I suspect I never will.

Although google have stolen palm's UI design guru to help create the new android interface, so webOS might live on in spirit...
 
Ok this is coming from an android user (former iphone owner).

In terms of features and functionality, N1 with android 2.2 beats iphone 4.

In terms of UI/UX and ease of use, i4 beats N1.

In terms of applications i4 beats N1.

In terms of media functionality i4 beats N1.

So i4 beats N1 3-1 in stuff that I think most people look for in a smartphone, so i4 is superior to N1 and android at the moment. Android 3.0 which is supposed to come out later this year is the release that is supposed to really fix the issues with UI/UX so we shall see.
 
wreckshop said:
Ok this is coming from an android user (former iphone owner).

In terms of features and functionality, N1 with android 2.2 beats iphone 4.

In terms of UI/UX and ease of use, i4 beats N1.

In terms of applications i4 beats N1.

In terms of media functionality i4 beats N1.

So i4 beats N1 3-1 in stuff that I think most people look for in a smartphone, so i4 is superior to N1 and android at the moment. Android 3.0 which is supposed to come out later this year is the release that is supposed to really fix the issues with UI/UX so we shall see.
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Yep, 2.2 was to address performance and features, 3.0 is focused on polish.

I would have your list at 2-2 btw, I really dislike the ios UI. Widgets would help.
 
These are iPhone's three advantages that cannot be debated:

1. Battery life.
2. iOS will always have higher quality apps/games. Developers prefer it for a number of reasons: less fragmentation between devices, average user spends more money on software, connected to iTunes ecosystem with over 150 million credit cards.
3. Industrial design.

The rest is personal preference.
 
tuatha said:
Yep, 2.2 was to address performance and features, 3.0 is focused on polish.

I would have your list at 2-2 btw, I really dislike the ios UI. Widgets would help.
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UI appearance very is subjective IMO. some people like the wall of icons look. I do feel however that many iphone users would welcome the level customization that android has (despite the people who say otherwise). The useability of iOS is definitely superior to android. iphones have much more responsive touch screens and of course apple has been designing operating systems for many years now.

drjsway said:
These are iPhone's three advantages that cannot be debated:

1. Battery life.
2. iOS will always have higher quality apps/games. Developers prefer it for a number of reasons: less fragmentation between devices, average user spends more money on software, connected to iTunes ecosystem with over 150 million credit cards.
3. Industrial design.

The rest is personal preference.
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1: agree - but this may just be temporary.
2: agree - apple got a good head start and set the standard.
3: disagree - thats personal preference, and android offers more handset selection to suit different tastes.
 
wreckshop said:
3: disagree - thats personal preference, and android offers more handset selection to suit different tastes.
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Really? Even Apple haters usually admit that Jonny Ive's designs are pretty awe-inspiring. Critics of Apple say they're "form over function" but pretty much everyone agrees they get the form right.

Android may offer more handset selection but I don't see how anyone can say Apple is not at the top when it comes to industrial design.
 
drjsway said:
Really? Even Apple haters usually admit that Jonny Ive's designs are pretty awe-inspiring. Critics of Apple say they're "form over function" but pretty much everyone agrees they get the form right.

Android may offer more handset selection but I don't see how anyone can say Apple is not at the top when it comes to industrial design.
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I think he means what type of form factor you prefer, such as landscape slider, qwerty candybar, slate, vertical slider, ect....
 
drjsway said:
Really? Even Apple haters usually admit that Jonny Ive's designs are pretty awe-inspiring. Critics of Apple say they're "form over function" but pretty much everyone agrees they get the form right.

Android may offer more handset selection but I don't see how anyone can say Apple is not at the top when it comes to industrial design.
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Heh. Apple fans were the main people to claim the new form was all wrong.

If you look back at any iPhone forum when the prototype was lost, you'll find tons of posts from Apple fans claiming that "Ives would never create such an industrial look".

Apple fans negatively compared it to the Zune, they laughed at it, they groaned at it, and they claimed it must be a fake.

Of course, once it turned out that it was the real design, that all changed.
 
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