Android-Based Tablet Spotted Running Flash

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In his "Thoughts on Flash" letter last week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs noted his company's frustration with Adobe's slow pace at getting Flash working well on mobile devices, citing missed timelines and a sense of relief that Apple didn't wait for Adobe to deliver the technology.
We have routinely asked Adobe to show us Flash performing well on a mobile device, any mobile device, for a few years now. We have never seen it. Adobe publicly said that Flash would ship on a smartphone in early 2009, then the second half of 2009, then the first half of 2010, and now they say the second half of 2010. We think it will eventually ship, but we're glad we didn’t hold our breath. Who knows how it will perform?
In answer to that question, Zedomax reports that Adobe at this week's Web 2.0 conference in San Francisco is showing off an Android-based tablet running Flash, as well as the company's AIR cross-platform runtime.

Despite the author's claim that Flash and AIR apps run "flawlessly" on the tablet, Daring Fireball's John Gruber points out that the device's browser crashes while the user is accessing YouTube in one video clip.

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Mattie Num Nums

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Flash can be made better, its up to Adobe and the others to actually collaborate for once. Its not all Adobes fault. It seems Google is working with Adobe to make flash work, I wish Apple would too. Lets just get this pissing contest over with so we can enjoy the technology. Oh yeah, don't give me the HTML5 BS because HTML5 is a protocol and Flash is a framework, its always going to be different.
 

TranceNW

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Despite the author's claim that Flash and AIR apps run "flawlessly" on the tablet, Daring Fireball's John Gruber points out that the device's browser crashes while the user is accessing YouTube in one video clip.
I expected nothing less. :rolleyes:
 

HiRez

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And again, they concentrate on whether it runs Flash or not, forgetting that half the equation is what battery life it gets while doing so.
 

TranceNW

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John is a smart guy but like some people here, Apple can do no wrong.
Oh I agree with you there.
However, the fact remains that flash (as it currently stands) is not something that belongs on a mobile device. Granted, one video doesn't prove or disprove how well flash runs on the droid but i'm certain this won't be the only one.
 

wackymacky

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Man, enough about flash already

If people want a device with flash, let them buy one ( and accept the limitations it sets on the devices performance)

If people want to buy a device that doesn’t support flash, then fine, and let them experience the "magical experience" of the internet that that entails.

Surely there are other things that we can discuss.
 

MacPhilosopher

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First, this is why all the anti-trust cry babies can take a rest. Each time a company pushes the envelop others will follow and challenge their lead. Second, big deal. When it comes down to it, most persons will buy the product they are most comfortable with for the purposes they need it for. I tend not to play web-based flash games, so I care little about the iPad's lack of flash support. I enjoy long battery life and fewer crashes, so I enjoy using a product from a company that chooses security and stability over generic market needs like web games and video that can and will be served in more than one web format. What I do least is spend time worrying about products I don't use and therefore have little opinion about. I just wish all the haters would learn the same valuable lesson. I have never observed someone using or talking about using windows and then attacked their preferred platform's supposed shortcomings. On the other hand, I have been attacked and criticized many times by others for choosing the platform I prefer. What gives haters? Why?
 

Fraaaa

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Man, enough about flash already

If people want a device with flash, let them buy one ( and accept the limitations it sets on the devices performance)

If people want to buy a device that doesn’t support flash, then fine, and let them experience the "magical experience" of the internet that that entails.

Surely there are other things that we can discuss.
+1

Joojoo 2.5 hours on Flash tested, apparently 5 hours with Flash disabled. Beside this, what the tablet offer?
 

JediZenMaster

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Man, enough about flash already

If people want a device with flash, let them buy one ( and accept the limitations it sets on the devices performance)

If people want to buy a device that doesn’t support flash, then fine, and let them experience the "magical experience" of the internet that that entails.

Surely there are other things that we can discuss.
Amen Brother! You Deserve a drink for this. :cool:
 

pacmania1982

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Well I have to say the video is totally pointless. There is nothing about how well it performs, how much of the CPU it eats or how long the battery lasts with and without playing flash.

Even if this was on a prototype unit, without any comparisons its as I say pointless.

pac
 

DJ Dilbert

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Oh yeah, don't give me the HTML5 BS because HTML5 is a protocol and Flash is a framework, its always going to be different.
HTML 5 is a nice idea but it isn't ready to offer a full replacement to Flash.

Flash is a resource and performance hog, battery life can't be good.
Flash clearly needs an overhaul and by getting into the mobile market, it will be forced on Adobe to make the needed changes.

If people want to buy a device that doesn’t support flash, then fine, and let them experience the "magical experience" of the internet that that entails.
Please enough with the "magical" BS. It was gay when Steve Jobs said it and it still is when people say it now. There is nothing magical about the internet. The tech works the way it was designed and how we'd expect it to. There is nothing mysterious or overwhelming about any of this tech...especially the iPaperweight a.k.a iPad.
 

s1m

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That enclosure must be an early prototype surely? They wouldnt sell something that thick.

It would be nice to know more about the tablet and less about how it can do one thing the iPad can't.
 

inlovewithi

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If I ever get a tablet, I sure as hell hope it won't be capable of playing games, or anything that might cause the battery life to die faster. I hope I can just use it to browse simple websites the can maximize the battery life.

On a serious note I doubt flash video would cause the iPad to run out of juice in 5hrs, not with hardware acceleration. Well it doesn't have it, but on a Tegra 2 tablet, battery life won't be a problem when watching a flash video.
 
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