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Android is overused..

blackberrypilot said:
iOS needs a major overhaul, although I still think its ahead of Android for the time being. Android just has too many bugs and a lame interface. I came from an EVO and was tired of it after a week.
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Speak for yourself. My DX is given me much more joy than my iPhone ever did. There is perhaps one or two exceptions, iPhone nailed copy/paste after they finally brought it to the iPhone. Something so basic was so late but done so right. This is where the DX lacks.
 
blackberrypilot said:
iOS needs a major overhaul, although I still think its ahead of Android for the time being. Android just has too many bugs and a lame interface. I came from an EVO and was tired of it after a week.
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Theres your problem. Those have crap battery life and if you didnt root it, you missed out. My phone still isnt running at its capacity and it is very quick.

Im using a Custom Froyo ROM and it zips. Much faster than 2.1 was. Cant wait for the Devs to get out the Gingerbread ROMs.
 
blackberrypilot said:
iOS needs a major overhaul, although I still think its ahead of Android for the time being. Android just has too many bugs and a lame interface. I came from an EVO and was tired of it after a week.
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I have the opposite experience with my Droid Incredible. It's quite stable and fast.

OTOH, some of my iOS device apps mysteriously quit at times... well, perhaps not so mysteriously, my guess is that whenever they need more memory, they die. Safari is one of the unstable ones.

I use both iOS and Android constantly. Both are nice.
 
Mactards should really fear android. There were some amazing android fones shown at CES this year. Even when VZ announces iphone, I expect android to outsell iphone. There are simply too many droids out.
 
I've considered getting an Android phone, just to have an extra operating system to play with. I haven't researched at all (I'd want to stick with AT&T and just swap SIM's), but I find it hard to believe you can get a phone that's going to be as thin and get a similar battery life. I saw a Galaxy S a few months ago... that phone seemed cool.
 
FearNo1 said:
Mactards should really fear android. There were some amazing android fones shown at CES this year. Even when VZ announces iphone, I expect android to outsell iphone. There are simply too many droids out.
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Mactards? This is what I'm talking about. Yes, the new phones are great, hardware wise. But Mactards? Really?

ignus graius said:
I've considered getting an Android phone, just to have an extra operating system to play with. I haven't researched at all (I'd want to stick with AT&T and just swap SIM's), but I find it hard to believe you can get a phone that's going to be as thin and get a similar battery life. I saw a Galaxy S a few months ago... that phone seemed cool.
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I want to do this too, but you'd have to have a phone that takes a micro sim card. ATT won't let you put the same phone number on more than one sim. The iPhone 4 uses the micro sim, so unless something sweet like that Atrix uses the same sim, you'd be out of luck.

FearNo1 said:
Mactards should really fear android. There were some amazing android fones shown at CES this year. Even when VZ announces iphone, I expect android to outsell iphone. There are simply too many droids out.
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Oh, and another point... Of course Android is going to outsell the iOS. It's on every swinging dick phone out there. Sort of like my original post where people considered Windows superior because it's on every swinging dick computer. 🙄
 
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JaiDaHaus said:
Cell Phone company: "Lets make a phone to beat the iPhone, suggestions?"
Suggestion: "Lets slap Android in it!"
Result..... a hundred lame ass phones with maybe 2 exceptions.

I'm getting really tired of the unimaginative bullcrap that all these cell phone makers keep dishing out thinking it'll sell just because it has android in it.
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Who cares? Android will always have a fan base just like iOS. Chevy versus Ford. I don't care what my neighbor wants to drive to work! I like mine...he likes his!

A phone could have a nuclear power plant inside...I just need it to do what I need it to do. Nothing more/nothing less. Dual core? What benefit does that provide my already screaming fast/smooth as butter iPhone4? I'm not ripping DVDs with it!

I say, let the manufacturers build whatever the heck they think will compete. If it's crap....it's crap, doesn't affect me one iota! If it is the bees knees, good for those new owners of an awesome phone. I think I'll keep mine and get through the day just fine.

This post is in no way derogatory to the OP, I'm just saying...why does everyone care so much about whether or not Android surpasses iOS in some random index/measurement that doesn't amount to a hill of beans for day in/day out users? Is it some sort of bragging rights around the dinner table?

Apple will continue to put out awesome products...whether out spec'd on paper or not! I guess I'm just content I've out-grown my bag phone from the mid 80s! 😛
 
Heh..I was joking..partially. The OP obviously started a troll thread. What does it have to do with iphone at all? I do think apple is resting on its laurels a bit now while it is android that is pushing the envelop. I was thinking about getting an iphone but I prob will get a 4g android in a few months.

ctt1wbw said:
Mactards? This is what I'm talking about. Yes, the new phones are great, hardware wise. But Mactards? Really?
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Vegastouch said:
Theres your problem. Those have crap battery life and if you didnt root it, you missed out. My phone still isnt running at its capacity and it is very quick.

Im using a Custom Froyo ROM and it zips. Much faster than 2.1 was. Cant wait for the Devs to get out the Gingerbread ROMs.
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The Gingerbread roms are out do your research before you assume.
 
Mutinygraphiks said:
The Gingerbread roms are out do your research before you assume.
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No they arent. Devs are making ROM's to look like Gingerbread but they are Froyo based. There isnt a custom ROM out based on GB 2.3. Just bits and pieces like the keyboard, battery and wifi icons, lockscreens,.... which are again....used on 2.2 ROM's. There is a Dump Demo 2.3 out that is very buggy that the Devs are using now to get things right so they can get out Custom ROMs but there isnt any released custom ROMs out there now with 2.3

Maybe you need to do some research.
 
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JaiDaHaus said:
Yes, I understand the reasons behind Android's creation, but maybe they should restrict who can use the OS and how many times because like I stated before, there are almost a hundred different devices now that pretty much do all the same stuff, besides a couple exceptions. That in itself can't be good for the market or the customers.
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Why? There are hundreds of different models of cars sold and they all do the same thing. Is that bad for the market or customers too?

In case you havent noticed, all these manufacturers selling android phones are are competing with each other and because of competition are coming out with some incredible devices. Look at the motorla atrix. when ip5 launches later this year I guarantee it will be inferior hardware wise to android.

In any case you dont like a particular phone, dont buy it. Why are you getting worked up over something that you dont even own?
 
FearNo1 said:
The OP obviously started a troll thread. What does it have to do with iphone at all?
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+1

The guy doesn't understand basic business and technology.

To develop one's own OS that is actually good takes a behemoth like Microsoft. What happened to Palm? Oh, yeah...wait.

Even if the OS is GOOD like Palm, it is no guarantee of success.

If I'm a CEO in charge of putting together a hole new series of smartphones, I'd have to be an idiot (Steve Ballmer) to go against the Android tide and write my own OS. Even if the OS is spectacular, it will take years to gain serious traction and requires experience, as well as hundreds of millions of dollars in initial investment. Microsoft has the money and the experience. Palm will be resurrected by mega-corp HP, but it will be awhile before HP can expect serious gains in the market.

Funny how the OP thinks that people responding negatively to his ridiculous opening post are wrong to make assumptions about him. We are all to think that a post lacking in basic understanding of business/finance/technology must have been conceived by a professor.
 
Vegastouch said:
Theres your problem. Those have crap battery life and if you didnt root it, you missed out. My phone still isnt running at its capacity and it is very quick.

Im using a Custom Froyo ROM and it zips. Much faster than 2.1 was. Cant wait for the Devs to get out the Gingerbread ROMs.
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This is also one of the "problems" with Android (which to me isn't really a problem though) because most consumers don't want to tweak around with their phones just to achieve satisfactory performance. Android is a dream for techno geeks like you and me because we want to play with the toy. Almost every Android phone benefits dramatically from running custom ROMs that don't bog down the interface and restrict root access.
 
applebook said:
This is also one of the "problems" with Android (which to me isn't really a problem though) because most consumers don't want to tweak around with their phones just to achieve satisfactory performance.
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I guess you never heard of jailbreaking an iPhone? 🙄
 
applebook said:
This is also one of the "problems" with Android (which to me isn't really a problem though) because most consumers don't want to tweak around with their phones just to achieve satisfactory performance. Android is a dream for techno geeks like you and me because we want to play with the toy. Almost every Android phone benefits dramatically from running custom ROMs that don't bog down the interface and restrict root access.
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Android has come a LONGG ways. Rooting used to be a pain in the neck but now is pretty much a one click thing now. But all rooting does as you know is give you, the owner of your phone access to your root files and makes it possible to do flashing ROMs and .apk files and zips.
Jailbreaking was cool and it made my iPhone much better imo but man you can do so much with these when your rooted and it isnt that hard, ....like using Full OS ROM's. Customizing these things is just endless.

Unlike Jailbreaking when users said it made their phone not run as well( i didnt have that problem w/ mine though), Flashing ROMs is pretty much the opposite because you can do more to it than install a OS. They also have different Modems and Kernals to try and you can try a different combo for better results.

I have never used an HTC phone so i cant say but it is said that customizing these Samsung phones is shall we say....Root friendly? Im sure they (HTC) have their custom things too but there is a ton of it for Samsung Galaxy S phones. Vibrant, Captivate, etc....they have their own sections and their own things going on in XDA.

As for wanting to stay stock...Froyo (2.2) is of course faster than Eclair(2.1) and Gingerbread is said to be faster and better still and running real smooth on the Nexus S phones.
I came in using Android with Eclair so i dont know how previous versions ran. I didnt like the G1 when it came out and stuck with my iPhone and it wasnr so much the system...i didnt like the phone itself.
 
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As has been pointed out already, Android offers something to the carriers that they can't get from Apple: the ability to differentiate their product offerings. Thus far, this has been limited to launcher skins (which actually appear to be provided by the phone manufacturers, not the carriers) and, in some cases, 'exclusive' app offers. For example, some of the EA games titles for Android were only available officially if you bought a Tmobile Android Phone (I think Sims 3 was like this).

But this is only potential; in actuality, the carriers haven't really done much to avail themselves of the opportunity to make the open-source Android OS 'work' for them. They all just fall into this trap of cookie-cutter phones with cookie-cutter contracts. This is where the Apple/AT&T relationship created a unique offering for the iPhone. AT&T actually had to play catch-up to Apple's features more than once (Tethering is a good example). But at least the exclusive nature of the iPhone ensured that nobody else had exactly the same thing to offer as AT&T did and this exclusivity brought them a lot of business they wouldn't have otherwise enjoyed.

Now that iOS will be available via Verizon, I wonder if Verizon and Apple will just replicate the AT&T relationship or if there will be an opportunity for the two carriers to compete to 'enable' some features that Apple has already developed for iOS, but were forced to leave dormant since AT&T just didn't have the technical capability to light up for their user base?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, but I think the hardware features of the iPhone 4 are quite mature; its the software features of iOS that is languishing. Unified Notifications is just one example. It would be awesome to see both AT&T and Verizon fighting over who gets to enable more of the iOS platform (available to both) the fastest as a means to differentiate their own 'version' of the iPhone. I think we all know that Apple isn't going to let either company mickey around with the device itself, but that doesn't mean they won't push the envelope on the iOS side to enable functionality but let the carriers themselves rush to enable the infrastructure to support same.

This has been the promise of the Android OS. Unfortunately....nobody has exploited it as of yet. In reality, I can buy an Android phone from ANY carrier and pretty much make mine do the same thing as that available from a different 'unique' Android phone offered by a different carrier. There is nothing special about a single Android phone. There is much special about an AT&T-provisioned iPhone: you can't get it elsewhere. It will be interesting to see if Apple and Verizon do something unique and differentiated that makes the overall user experience different from that of an AT&T iPhone.
 
Mutinygraphiks said:
For one there is a variety, on the style of phone what android os allows the phone to do, let alone what version of the os it can have, read more into it then just thinking every android phone is the same because they are not.

plus with androids you can sdk them to root access and develop your own look, apps, feel, and functionality of the phone.

THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE.😉
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The same thing can be applied to a Jailbroken iPhone
 
Android OS is an open source operating system that anyone can use, modify to their own needs, and deploy on whatever they wish; you could make a toaster that runs Android OS if you wish. Most companies like HTC and Motorola have their own little GUI tweaks for it, but you could go as far as making a completely different GUI if you wished.

Why not? It's a pretty stable Linux operating system to begin with. It isn't too restrictive, and while Apple has been very successful with the iPhone, I do think that the lack of variety in their hardware will come back yet again to hit them in the butt.

Not everyone wants a candybar cellphone with one, and only one button on the face of it. Some people want phones with dedicated buttons, or with a real keyboard, or a larger screen, or a smaller screen, or god only knows what.

Why should they be left out in the cold?

HTC, Samsung, and Motorola have managed to make many very compelling phones in the past 5 years, almost all of which still have a removable battery and upgradeable storage. Somehow, the iPhone is similar in size and costs more, but is less upgradeable and by far more delicate. And if that wasn't enough, you can get it on AT&T, or AT&T, or AT&T - in their *@#% home market they only let you pick one carrier when any idiot in England or Canada has their pick. That's not cool.
 
ReallyBigFeet said:
Now that iOS will be available via Verizon, I wonder if Verizon and Apple will just replicate the AT&T relationship or if there will be an opportunity for the two carriers to compete to 'enable' some features that Apple has already developed for iOS, but were forced to leave dormant since AT&T just didn't have the technical capability to light up for their user base?

I guess we'll just have to wait and see, but I think the hardware features of the iPhone 4 are quite mature; its the software features of iOS that is languishing. Unified Notifications is just one example. It would be awesome to see both AT&T and Verizon fighting over who gets to enable more of the iOS platform (available to both) the fastest as a means to differentiate their own 'version' of the iPhone. I think we all know that Apple isn't going to let either company mickey around with the device itself, but that doesn't mean they won't push the envelope on the iOS side to enable functionality but let the carriers themselves rush to enable the infrastructure to support same.
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So long story short, you think iOS will have different features on VZW vs. AT&T? I don't see that at all...
 
I like my Android phone? lol Its my Verizon service that I dont like 90% of the time haha

I'll probably switch if the iphone ever makes it to Verizon though. I hear it could be soon? Or its all hype and it wont haha
 
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