No it is completely fair in my book. Apple chooses to limit itself to one device.
Also devs bases things on OS number not devices numbers.
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Android Outsells iPhone Globally
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Also devs bases things on OS number not devices numbers.
You'll notice that Android is outselling iPhone on networks where iPhone is not available. If you dive further into the statistics you will see that 21% of Android owners want their next phone to be an iPhone. Only 6% of iPhone owners want their next phone to be Android. As soon as iPhone becomes available on Verizon, you will see many Android defections to iPhone.
Also, how can you say Android is outselling iPhone when many of these Android phones have been given away via 2-for-1? That's GIVING it away. If you have to give something away in order for it to be popular, but people aren't willing to pay for it, well then my friend we have a problem. If you have such a great product, why do you essentially have to pay someone (give away a product) to use it? Sounds a little sad and desperate to me.
If you are going to be accurate when you say "Android vs iOS" then you will have to include sales of iPad and iPod touch. That adds another 10-12 million units to the iOS numbers as presented in the Gartner numbers. Gartner is only comparing Android smartphone only sales to iOS smartphone only sales (iPhone). In that respect the headlines of "Android outsells iOS" is total bull crap because the headline describes OS market share while the details show OS market share on only one specific type of device. Android fanoys will say "well, Android is only available on smartphones so you can't include iPod Touch and iPad". Really? The ultimate success of the platform will not depend on simply total units shipped, but also the number and quality of apps available on that platform. So long as Apple can deliver apps across multiple devices, there will be a much bigger market and higher profits for developers on the iOS platform. And THAT is where the game will be won or lost.
If you actually do an accurate, non fan-boy comparison, you'll see that on an operating system level across all devices iOS wipes the floor with Android by a margin of 2-to-1. If you look at smartphone manufacturers, Apple outsells HTC by a huge margin and is on the heels of Motorola. Apple's smartphone sales have increased over 60% in the last year while Motorola's sales have declined by 40%. Apple is only 28% fewer shipments of smartphones compared to shipments of ALL Motorola cell phones combined. That to me is an amazing number. Apple, with just a smartphone, is soon going to pass Motorola in sales when comparing to Motorola sales across smartphones AND regular cell phones. iPhone and iOS is outperforming on all fronts.
Android is and will end up being a lowest common denominator OS because it has to work across a multitude of devices. Android's OS is different depending on who manufactured your unit, so there is no consistent user experience across this thing called "Android". The UI is going to be the determining factor in which Android handset becomes the most popular one, and you'll soon find Android smartphone manufacturers battling amongst themselves to differentiate. Regardless of Android's marketshare, developer profitability on Android is low. Advertising revenue on a CPM basis cannot compare to what is being delivered by iAd.
The basic fact remains that the majority of people who moved to Android did so because they could not get iPhone on their network and did not want to switch to AT&T. This will change in the next few months. If all you can do is engage in a p***ing war without looking at the underlying facts and statistics, you are a "fanboy" and know nothing of what you speak. You only need to read this article to see how well the latest Android phone is doing. Reader's Digest version - sales of Droid 2 suck. Nobody wants it. So much for all the fanfare!
That just proves the point that the comparison is meaningless. Android should always have more OS installs- there are tons of devices being offered that use it. Far more than the single phone Apple offers.
This is completely fair.*
Steve Jobs chose to limit the iPhone to just one carrier.*
He's the one fanboys worship.*
He's the one that leads the company.*
He's the "Hype Master" and marketing genius.*
Therefore it's a very fair comparison. Facts are facts.
I took a look at the first sentence in the Gartner article.
"Android is now larger than the iPhone on the world stage..."
I have to agree with one thing, the comparison should have been OS to OS, then there would be no Apple loyalist argument. The fact that by default the iOS only runs on iPhones seems to elude their capability to make the jump from Android vs iPhone to Android vs iOS.
Edit: Yes Apple has the best single selling handset sales, but for now they do not have the best selling OS sales.
Edit: We all know what happened the last time Apple went hard vs OS. Microsoft the world, Macs the niche.
"Android is now larger than the iPhone on the world stage..."
I have to agree with one thing, the comparison should have been OS to OS, then there would be no Apple loyalist argument. The fact that by default the iOS only runs on iPhones seems to elude their capability to make the jump from Android vs iPhone to Android vs iOS.
Edit: Yes Apple has the best single selling handset sales, but for now they do not have the best selling OS sales.
Edit: We all know what happened the last time Apple went hard vs OS. Microsoft the world, Macs the niche.
Then iOS wins because iOS sold about 20 million devices in Q2-2010. If you're a developer are you going to develop for an OS that sells 11 million app-ready devices per quarter or an OS that sells almost twice as many app-ready devices? Not only that, but owners of devices on the OS with less marketshare (Android) don't even buy as many apps as owners of iOS devices. Once you look at app purchases and iAd CPM rates, iOS is clearly the more profitable platform for advertisers and developers alike. That translates to more app developers and advertisers on iOS. I think you are actually arguing in favor of iOS but you don't realize it. This is very typical of people who don't know how to dive deeper into statistics and live only on the surface. Like lint.
Good old days, when Ferraris and Porsches used to be mainstream and they cost roughly the same as a Ford or Honda! I remember, when the bestselling or the second bestselling car used to be Ferrari. Those were the days!
Or maybe not. People should stop with these ignorant comparisons. Android might be Ford, but then iOS is a Honda. Ferraris and Porsches are mostly premium sports cars and have no intention or reason to worry about who's selling the most cars.
A bit of a price difference... if a Ferrari was the same price bet it would be a different storyIphone and Androids roughly same price.. And Androids are better.
I suspect that they don't even have a driving licence.
What gives you the delusional idea that people bought the iphone because they worship Steve Jobs? Most people that own an iPhone really have no idea who Steve Jobs really is. Did Steve Jobs bone your wife? Did he fire you from Apple? Obviously you have a Vendetta against the guy, therefore you're generalizing. You need to see the sun more and get laid, trust me it will do wonders for your anxiety.
Android needs all the PR it can get because it's relying on skewed public perception, misinformation, and consumer ignorance in order to maintain any kind of momentum. It's not unlike the Republican Party.
This is soooooo stupid!
You are comparing ONE phone to a whole line of phones with the same operating system.
Try comparing iOS to Android, it will tell you another story.
iPhone + iPad + iPod touch vs Android.
Or better yet, pick ONE android phone vs the iPhone
You are comparing ONE phone to a whole line of phones with the same operating system.
Try comparing iOS to Android, it will tell you another story.
iPhone + iPad + iPod touch vs Android.
Or better yet, pick ONE android phone vs the iPhone
Thank you for your opinion. If you're that perceptive can you provide us with some wining Lotto numbers please.
How is that? The only people invoking "Steve Jobs" are those claiming Android is superior, blah blah. It's funny how obsessed some owners of Android smartphones are with Steve Jobs. Could it be that Android "fanboys" are really just wannabe iOS fanboys? That's what it looks like...
I repeat:
I have to agree with one thing, the comparison should have been OS to OS, then there would be no Apple loyalist argument. The fact that by default the iOS only runs on iPhones seems to elude their capability to make the jump from Android vs iPhone to Android vs iOS.
Yes Apple has the best single selling handset sales, but for now they do not have the best selling OS sales.
We all know what happened the last time Apple went hard vs OS. Microsoft the world, Macs the niche.
Providing you with winning lotto numbers would have little to do with perception and more to do with clairvoyance. Your post is yet another example to show the low overall intelligence of Android fanboys. It's funny how those who are so emotionally invested in Android come to the iPhone forums to stir up trouble. Go play in your own sandbox little boy. Or is it full of cat poo?
It might not, someone above mentioned 20million iOS devices per quarter. Google says they are activating 200000 devices per day, which equates to 18million per quarter.
The fact that you came in with a Steve Jobs defense which is not relevant to the thread can be construed as "fanboy". Why defend Steve, is he your uncle?
Can you think your way out of a paper bag? Saying "iOS only runs on iPhones" shows your inability to think rationally, and "Yes Apple has the best single selling handset sales, but for now they do not have the best selling OS sales" is the icing on your Stupid Cake.
You make an assumption, iphone 3, iphone 4 32g and ipad 64g 3G owner. Not to mention I support these device with Good and Citrix on them at work. Beautiful devices.
You are correct, I forgot about the other Apple devices I own that run IOS. Not sure what you meant by the icing stuff.
I believe it was wirelessmacuser who I was responding to, scroll up. Those who don't understand history are bound to repeat it. Obviously you're unable to understand what I said. Do you shop at Wal Mart?
Difference is cars don't require people making extra accessories to make them useful.
With computers having more in the end will make it more useful as it will attract more developers. If iOS becomes as rare as Ferraris, you probably won't see near as many accessories/software for it.
And without software, a computer really is nothing.
So, yes, in the case of mobile phones/computers, it does tend to make it much more likely to be the better platform just by being the most popular. You'll more likely get more programs and have more usefulness. I prefer Mac to Windows but you know what? You can still find more for Windows and many times even if htey make a Mac equivelant, they don't put as much effort into it (look at Quickbooks, the reviews for the Mac one talk about how much they left out and how it isn't so stable. The software my vet uses on his mac did a half-assed effort at being Mac compatible).
It doesn't matter how well a computer runs if no one makes software for it or does half hearted attempts at compatible software.