No competent company is going to hire an engineer that will disparage company executives on Twitter. That alone is grounds for termination.
Did you read the whole thread?
No competent company is going to hire an engineer that will disparage company executives on Twitter. That alone is grounds for termination.
Did you read the whole thread?
No competent company is going to hire an engineer that will disparage company executives on Twitter. That alone is grounds for termination.
Only if your boss is a bleephole.
"maybe you don't have pride in your work, but some people do."
Jeeez, stop it with the sideways insult.
At the end of the day, publicly insult your boss, expect to get fired.
wasn't an insult. and like i said, im pretty sure he did expect it could happen. point is, elon comes out looking like a fool here.
Make's no difference if he does or doesn't.
tell that to TSLA shareholders (i include myself here)
The context of my post has nothing to do with Tesla shareholders; it was with respect to how the employee was treated by Musk after the employee called him out publicly.
That’s everywhere there’s work at the moment and someone always at the top, **** always rolls downhill.How did he disrespect him though? Musk made a statement, the guy engaged with him in a conversation (that should have STARTED offline in the first place) and when Musk ended up being in the wrong, he got offended like a little boy.
You all sound like you work in toxic work environments btw. NO THANKS
elon looking like a fool has a lot to do with TSLA shareholders
I read the tweet he had a hostile attitude maybe a bad day and took it out on musk then musk took his ****** day on his employee neither is perfectA suspension or leave without pay for 2 weeks or something would have been more humble and reasonable instead of bluntly firing someone over that.
Here is a list of everything Frohnhoefer said in direct response to Musk, split up into individual claims with slight paraphrasing as appropriate:"maybe you don't have pride in your work, but some people do."
Jeeez, stop it with the sideways insult.
At the end of the day, publicly insult your boss, expect to get fired.
unless this guy was in the pr department or part of ownership, publicly disseminating internal information out is going to be a bad idea no matter what it is.Here is a list of everything…..
Bollocks to this mindset.That’s not how the hierarchy works. The CEO - and in this case the owner - can bring to the public whatever he wants. An employee can’t, especially if such employee is using his employment to write the public communication.
Randall Munroe says it better than I could.He was also just pissing on his engineers and then fired a guy for pointing out he was wrong.
Free Speech my A$$ I guess.
I said he likely should've handled it privately. However, the point of my post — if you cared to read it or that which I was replying to — was the claim that the guy was publicly insulting Musk, which, unless I missed something, he most definitely was not.unless this guy was in the pr department or part of ownership, publicly disseminating internal information out it going to be a bad idea no matter what it is.
unless this guy was in the pr department or part of ownership, publicly disseminating internal information out it going to be a bad idea no matter what it is.
Here is a list of everything Frohnhoefer said in direct response to Musk, split up into individual claims with slight paraphrasing as appropriate:
Which of these, precisely, is a public insult to Musk? Look, yeah, Frohnhoefer likely should have handled this internally, but "public insult" is a wild exaggeration in my view. It was criticism, but very much constructive criticism focused on the product, not Musk, from someone who — unlike Musk — actually knows what the hell he's talking about.
- I have spent ~6 years working on Twitter for Android
- I can confirm this [statement by Musk regarding requests required to render the Home timeline] is wrong
- We have done a bunch of work to improve performance
- Performance correlates well with increasing user active minutes (UAM) and ad spend
- Agree that there is plenty of room for performance improvements on Android
- I don't think the number of requests is the primary issue
- For a cold start there are ~20 requests to load the Home timeline
- Most of those requests are non-blocking and happen in the background (e.g., images, hashflags, user settings)
- I believe there are three reasons the app is slow:
- The app is bloated with little-used features
- We have accumulated years of technical debt as we have prioritized [development] velocity and features over performance
- We spend a lot of time waiting for network responses
- One performance focused holdback showed a causal increase of 40M user active minutes. For reference, Mixed Media only showed 10M additional user active minutes.
- If we want to improve things, we need to make tradeoffs that favor performance over new feature work.
- Frankly, we should probably prioritize some big rewrites to combat 10+ years of technical debt and make a call on deleting features aggressively.
Real the world works, for others, they have forgotten."maybe you don't have pride in your work, but some people do."
Jeeez, stop it with the sideways insult.
At the end of the day, publicly insult your boss, expect to get fired.
It’s not a mindset. It something that he freely accepted in exchange of money. As I do.Bollocks to this mindset.
Not sure firing him for those comments was the right thing to do, but I'm not surprised in the least. The engineer is smart enough to know that every action has a consequence and the moment he hit the send button he lost control over his future at Twitter. These days, folks need to invest in classes that teach you when and how to SHUT UP!Thanks for the clarification. If he was so invested in the problem, he should have communicated with Musk internally/directly.
Taking it public, potentially embarrassing Musk, is just straight up unprofessional and a violation of trust. Terminating his employment was the right thing to do.