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When I had android I disabled my camera and the 'google' app which runs assistant in the house. I'm happy with the iphone, at least Apple itself isn't malware.
 
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Does something like this even need an article?

Pretty much every week we hear of another major Android security exploit. As someone once said, Android is a “toxic hellstew”.
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Another day, another major Android OS security flaw. But thats not even the real problem. The real issue is that most android phones wont get the proper updates to fix it, leaving millions permanently vulnerable.
Actually, they’ll get the fix for this since the flaw is in the camera App. A rare case when Google can get a security fix out quickly without having to wait for OEMs or carriers.
 
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I love my iPhone too but I'm not sure what that has to do with an article about an exploit found on Android considering the worst exploit ever to be found on iPhones happened just this year.
Because the security exploits found in Android seem to be constant, unlike Apple. I’m not saying Apple is perfect, but in comparison to Android, iOS is a safer platform.
 
The amount of people quick to **** on Android is absolutely ridiculous. Ya'll really need to chill with that ****. Yes, it's a major security flaw.

The article also states that Google already pushed out an update to patch the issue. As for other manufacturers putting out a fix, we already know carriers play a role in how fast can get patch updates for Android.

I'm a long time iOS user, was on a Pixel 2 for a year and a half. You know why? Because it's a great phone. And Android is a fantastic platform that can do A LOT of things better than iOS can. At least with an Android, you don't feel like you're using a device in a way the manufacturer wants you to, which is my biggest criticism of iOS as both a user and a UX Designer.

This crapping all over Android is absolutely ridiculous, especially in the forums on this site. Competition is good for both iOS and Android users. And Android does offer a ton of that. It makes both platforms better and gives users more choice. Don't sit here and try to act like you're above people that choose a platform that isn't the one you chose. Because it doesn't satisfy your needs doesn't mean it fails for someone else. You don't know their workflows, use cases, etc.

#OkGoogle 😆

Now in all seriousness, el Goog and Samedung may have issued patches... but how many devices will actually receive that patch.

As for competition? Yeah, there isn't any.
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So Samsung and Google fixed the bug. The question is how many people running Android have installed the fixed version and how many are running the old version. I didn't look at the stats for these versions, but android definitely doesn't have the update rate that iOS has.
 
#OkGoogle 😆

Now in all seriousness, el Goog and Samedung may have issued patches... but how many devices will actually receive that patch.

As for competition? Yeah, there isn't any.
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That's straight up ignorant to say there isn't competition.
 
While it may not be ideal from a "cleanliness" perspective, I really think that phones (iPhone included) should have a small indicator light like Apple laptops that comes on any time either camera is active. It would not have helped in the least with this security flaw, as this could be programmed to only be active when the phone was face-down and the screen (and presumably any light) was not visible, but it would be better than nothing.

Of course, there's the flip side argument, at least with laptop cameras, of it being vastly more useful to a hacker to get what's on your computer than what's in front of it, even if the latter feels more invasive.

For smartphones that's probably also true 99.9% of the time, but high-value targeted attacks are the one exception, and the camera is probably less valuable than the audio. If you can get an audio bug in a corporate boardroom or investment fund meeting, you could get extremely valuable actionable data. Video would be much less useful apart from maybe spying on a celebrity's ceiling and hoping someone walked into the frame naked.
 
Apple - "Yeah, register, prove who you are, let us check the app before it gets released, Nah buggy and a resource hog, fix it, ok done, fine it's available on the store"
It’s really not even close to that rigorous to enroll in the Apple Developer Program. App review isn’t all that rigorous either — I’ve had an app review approval in 8 minutes from when review began. (And no, it wasn’t a bug fix update.)

Individuals can effectively just sign up much like one would for any other site, and then just pay the $99 fee and you’re in. Companies must have a D-U-N-S number, but those are also exceptionally easy to get. For me, the D-U-N-S number resulted in a phone call from Dun & Bradstreet in which they wanted to verify the information I provided about my company was correct. While I obviously wasn’t being deceitful, it was a bunch of yeses and again, good to go.
 
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Am I the only person who would be happy to buy a phone without a selfie camera?
Please someone get rid of the notch and/or hold punch, and just not fit a camera for those who don't want to keep looking at themselves!
 
I think this is totally fine because the deal with android is that you give up personal data and privacy for a lower priced phone.
On iPhone this would have been news. On android this is a non story.
 
Depends on the use case. Personally though I still prefer Android.
Agreed. My particular use case involves not allowing audio and video sensor access by the mole OS of a company whose primary goal is profiting from, as their mission statement says, “organizing the world’s information.” Others may have a different use case.
 
The amount of people quick to **** on Android is absolutely ridiculous. Ya'll really need to chill with that ****. Yes, it's a major security flaw.

The article also states that Google already pushed out an update to patch the issue. As for other manufacturers putting out a fix, we already know carriers play a role in how fast can get patch updates for Android.

I'm a long time iOS user, was on a Pixel 2 for a year and a half. You know why? Because it's a great phone. And Android is a fantastic platform that can do A LOT of things better than iOS can. At least with an Android, you don't feel like you're using a device in a way the manufacturer wants you to, which is my biggest criticism of iOS as both a user and a UX Designer.

This crapping all over Android is absolutely ridiculous, especially in the forums on this site. Competition is good for both iOS and Android users. And Android does offer a ton of that. It makes both platforms better and gives users more choice. Don't sit here and try to act like you're above people that choose a platform that isn't the one you chose. Because it doesn't satisfy your needs doesn't mean it fails for someone else. You don't know their workflows, use cases, etc.

Please could you list all of the things that your Pixel can do better.
 
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Please could you list all of the things that your Pixel can do better.
  • Picture in picture for twitch and maps
  • Ability to install apps from any source (YouTube vances for example)
  • Shoot raw from the stock camera app
  • Endless customization for DnD (apps that are allowed to still send notifications, specific contacts that can text but not call)
  • Toggling WiFi and Bluetooth actually turns those off rather than disabling for a day
  • Web browsers actually use their own rendering engine rather than being forced to be a safari skin
  • System wide Adblock, including in apps
  • Can set a default messaging app

just a few that work way better for me on android than on iOS.
 
The amount of people quick to **** on Android is absolutely ridiculous. Ya'll really need to chill with that ****. Yes, it's a major security flaw.

The article also states that Google already pushed out an update to patch the issue. As for other manufacturers putting out a fix, we already know carriers play a role in how fast can get patch updates for Android.

I'm a long time iOS user, was on a Pixel 2 for a year and a half. You know why? Because it's a great phone. And Android is a fantastic platform that can do A LOT of things better than iOS can. At least with an Android, you don't feel like you're using a device in a way the manufacturer wants you to, which is my biggest criticism of iOS as both a user and a UX Designer.

This crapping all over Android is absolutely ridiculous, especially in the forums on this site. Competition is good for both iOS and Android users. And Android does offer a ton of that. It makes both platforms better and gives users more choice. Don't sit here and try to act like you're above people that choose a platform that isn't the one you chose. Because it doesn't satisfy your needs doesn't mean it fails for someone else. You don't know their workflows, use cases, etc.

:) Don't let them get to your nerves :) Just remember that you know what you want and what to do as opposed to being told what to do and what to want and for that you need an Android OS device :)

they are like that because they cant just accept the fact that their beloved expensive iOS phone is matched or even out matched by an Android OS phone. Developers know that OS to OS Android OS is leading the way. Can't wait for the Surface Dou device (Microsoft is reluctant to call it phone or tablet) which I believe could be the real productivity tool as compared to iPad or other Android tablets and theirs also the Surface Neo.

Well, as for the bug it is a serious problem and luckily Google and Samsung roll out a patch for the Camera application. So if this attack uses the bug in the Camera application, devices out there that does not have Google camera application installed are in the safe zone or those Android out there that can remove pre-installed apps like mine :) but mine has a nightly build update.

And also since its a Camera app issue, any Android device out there using stock Google Camera App are automatically patch/updated when they connect to the Internet when automatic update is enabled for the Camera application.
 
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