As a shareholder, the answer to that question is obvious.
He implicitly meant non-shareholders. That much is obvious.
As a shareholder, the answer to that question is obvious.
Eventually many developers will drop iOS development and move exclusively to Android, just like they did with Windows.
This isn't debatable, it's common sense. If it keeps going this way, I suspect Android will have 75-80% of the market. Apple will lead in profits for awhile because Fanboys will buy iPhones regardless if popular software titles are available (Just like the Mac, remember AutoCad was just recently available again, but Mac Fanboys were always trying to tell you that "Uncle Joe's Cad" was "just as good".
No it wasn't, and the majority of the population knows the difference.
Eventually many developers will drop iOS development and move exclusively to Android, just like they did with Windows.
BS. Replace Android with fast food "brand" and you get nonsense just as big as the one here.
He is talking about manufacturers giving away phones, perhaps he thinks that when a carrier gives you a "free" phone, the manufactures is not paid
Hidden cost of cheap Android phones: Telcos spend billions on repairs
Fitting older versions of Google's Inc. (GOOG-Q616.563.560.58%) popular Android software to cheaper cellphones could send the repair costs of global telecoms operators up as much as $2-billion, a study by wireless services firm WDS showed.
Costly hardware failures are more common on Android devices than on Apple Inc. (AAPL-Q388.839.572.52%) iPhones and Research In Motion Inc. (RIM-T19.540.935.00%) BlackBerry phones, which have strict control over the components used in their devices, WDS data showed.
Cheaper Android models, costing as little as $100 to make, have helped Android emerge as the dominant platform in smart phones, attracting dozens of manufacturers ranging from Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd. to no-brand Asian vendors.
“While this price point sounds very attractive, when you look at a total cost of ownership its a different story,” said Tim Deluca-Smith, Vice President of Marketing at WDS, which offers device management and call-centre services to operators.
Android's share of the global smart phone market rose to 57 per cent in the third quarter from 25 per cent a year earlier and just 3 per cent two years earlier, boosted by the success of models from Samsung, HTC Corp. and Sony Ericsson, according to research firm Canalys.
Deluca-Smith said that, while Android has helped take smart phones to masses of people, it has come at a cost, especially when telecommunications operators roll out cheaper devices from less-known brands.
“At the moment, Android is a bit of the Wild West,” he said.
He said returning a broken device costs an operator on average $130 in service costs, transport fees or in the costs of replacing of the device.
The study covered 600,000 technical support calls taken by WDS across Europe, North America, South Africa and Australia.
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I like so much this report, 14% of Android calls are related to hardware and 7% of iPhone calls are related to hardware and the conclusion is that is a very big problem with fragmentation because it cause those hardware fails.
Gazillions of crappy phones without great hardware software integration and 14% of calls related to hardware
2 models, hardware and software tailor made and they only achieve half the percentage calls
those iPhone numbers would've been higher too but for the endless dropped calls.!![]()
http://www.amazon.com/Pantech-Crossover-Android-Phone-AT/dp/B0053H8OXU
This too, is the face of Android.
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As well as this . . . thing:
http://www.sogi.com.tw/product/productInfo.aspx?pno=7514
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Join the revolution! Apply within:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/11/cheap-android-phones-are-unreliable/
Oops . . . I meant this:
http://www.cheapandroidphone.net/
Wow there where do you live? How is this the face of Android? I haven't seen a single American or European with those phones. Here is the real face of Android from what I see
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Two of the phones with android I see often, unless you live in Asia? People in might have some different sightings of phones but I highly doubt showing a Chinese phone and a Pantech phone represents the face of Android.
Edit: I just noticed you're from Canada, I'm from Montreal and I haven't seen a single person with any of the phones you illustrated.
I saw this. I saw that.
I saw Elvis in a nacho the other day.
Anecdotes are fun.
You only see what you want to see, facts becomes distorted to the way you appreciate it and love it. For you Android does not represent high end phones but crap like phones that are not even sold where you live.
In fact, the cheap Android devices are abundant enough that we get this piece of news:
http://www.neowin.net/news/cheap-android-devices-are-expensive-to-carriers
(Just like the Mac, remember AutoCad was just recently available again, but Mac Fanboys were always trying to tell you that "Uncle Joe's Cad" was "just as good".
Don't you dare compare me to those dirty orange lovers. Who wants a fruit where you can't eat the skin? NOBODY!Here is the problem with you and other fanboys (Apple, Android, Oranges, Monkeys, Ford, etc).
No, it represents them all. That's the problem. That's what you need to take into account when you look at share numbers. What do they consist of?
In fact, the cheap Android devices are abundant enough that we get this piece of news all over the web:
http://www.neowin.net/news/cheap-android-devices-are-expensive-to-carriers
Fact:
http://www.digitimes.com/Reports/Report.asp?datepublish=2011/4/18&pages=RS&seq=400
ZTE's share shot up by a massive 57.9 percent recently, putting the company into fourth place. And they're known for their ********* products.
Where I live makes no difference. These facts have nothing to do with where anyone lives or what you and I see personally (which is also irrelevant.)
Don't you dare compare me to those dirty orange lovers. Who wants a fruit where you can't eat the skin? NOBODY!
I cannot access the full article for your second link but here is one of the charts they presented
Chart 8: Low-priced models account for tiny proportion of 2010 Android phone shipments
All the charts here prove that Pantech/No name brands do not hold an important market share:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-and-apple-marketshare-versus-profit/
Once again, you prove yourself that you see only what you can to see, carefully choosing articles that demonstrates your views without opening yourself to other possible alternatives.
And who says Pantech is known to only make ********* products... Once again, only your opinion. Only what you want to believe because your thoughts cannot go beyond the fact that other companies can also make good products.
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It was bound to happen.
Straight from the horse's mouth:
http://www.androidauthority.com/cheap-smartphones-to-dominate-the-mobile-market-31335/
Cheap Smartphones To Dominate The Mobile Market
For quite a while now, the mobile phone market has seen trends in new features and sassy designs. Of course, this often came with hefty price tags that people were willing to shell out just to have the latest smartphone model. Today, telecom operators in Taipei are beginning to come up with more affordable smartphones that many of us will gladly welcome.
With lots of people are still very much interested in owning a smartphone, new models that are priced less than USD 333 or NTD 10,000 are expected to come out and do well. It has been reported that Chunghwa Telecom Co is about to team up with HTC Corp to launch an affordable smartphone sometime next week. Chunghwa Telecom has already been offering bargain smartphone models from HTC, Samsung Electronics, and Huawei Technology. Over the past few months, it has already been taking enormous steps toward this direction and market.
Last August, Huawei IDEOS XI, running on Android 2.2, was launched by Taiwans Huawei Technology and Far EasTone Telecommunications Co Ltd. Priced at less than NTD 5,000 (USD 166), the bargain model targets consumers who want to use their phones for Internet but are not willing to spend 5 or 6 times more.
One month after, Taiwan mobile Co launched the Fantastic T3 that boasts of a 4.3 inch touch panel just like the one found in the most popular smartphones today. Moreover, its features become more seemingly impressive with the fact that it is 50% cheaper than most of the models in its category.
All in all, the bargain models forecast implies that the market for these phones will continue to rise. Expensive smartphones may still be considered as the mainstream in the market today, but, come next year, its market is going to decline, resulting to the already rising demand for more affordable smartphone models.
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This is about a) the proliferation of cheap Android phones from the fly-by-night OEMs like Pantech or whatever, and b) the creation of "bargain" phones by the major players.
I'm not sure what's worse, an Android device from a Junkbox maker, or a junk Android device by a major brand.
Pick your poison.
ZTE is already well on the way.
http://www.digitimes.com/Reports/Report.asp?datepublish=2011/4/18&pages=RS&seq=400
Don't bother with *LTD*.
He's just pissed that the latest sales figures prove that Android is more innovative than iOS.
Those marketshare reports always fail to include the iPod and the iPad, which are all part of the iOS ecosystem. If they actually included ALL iOS devices in those studies, the TRUTH would be revealed: that Apple completely dominates & decimates their competition.
Don't bother with *LTD*.
He's just pissed that the latest sales figures prove that Android is more innovative than iOS (by his own standards).
Point is, Android is more innovative! They're pushing the boundaries!
My standards dictate that market share is only to be understood correctly if you look at what's behind the numbers.
Universal licensing a free OS to everyone and their dog is not innovative in the least. It in fact is the very antithesis of innovation. By my standards, of course. Which might be unfairly high. But after all, we're spoiled by Apple.
My standards dictate that market share is only to be understood correctly if you look at what's behind the numbers.
Universal licensing a free OS to everyone and their dog is not innovative in the least. It in fact is the very antithesis of innovation. By my standards, of course. Which might be unfairly high. But after all, we're spoiled by Apple.