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Thanks. No I don't go on Android websites. I'm the guy who keeps telling people it doesn't matter which phone they choose, but gets sick of the people who use #AndroidMasterRace with comments, and who say the iPhone is ****.
also you deleted your comments. even if you delete it its stays on your all post page with tag removed on it.
you have some issues dude get a life
 
I think pretty much the entire world understands at this point that when you buy an iPhone, you're locked into Apple's ecosystem. So you buy an iPhone with the acceptance that you're buying into Apple's ecosystem.

If you bought the device and complain that you're locked in, then you're simply a bad consumer.
That argument didn't work for Microsoft. Probably why apple chose to allow Android wear
 
I think pretty much the entire world understands at this point that when you buy an iPhone, you're locked into Apple's ecosystem. So you buy an iPhone with the acceptance that you're buying into Apple's ecosystem.

If you bought the device and complain that you're locked in, then you're simply a bad consumer.

There are things I wish Apple would improve, and love it when Apple is on top with their products... but overall, I'm more concerned about the eco system and how easy it's going to be on me to keep everything on-par and working.

My point is, people want to mix and match eco systems... have a ball... but for me, that's silly. It's bad enough in many cases that Android phones aren't on the same system and their are differences with them all and not all of them are up to date. So now toss in mixing iOS... that to me seems like more complexity than I need in my life.

I care more about a expanding my Apple Eco system to my TV for all my viewing so I don't have to teach my wife how to use the different remotes each time. I want to expand that eco system to my car with CarPlay so I can ditch the god-aweful OEM touchscreen radio in my car. And I'm looking forward to the day I can expand this into the home with Homekit.

Does that limit me in my choices? Sure... but so far, I have no regrets with my iPhone or Macs... they do 100% of what I need for those devices and they do it pretty much trouble free. Am I 100% on the bleeding edge of technology with Apple products??? Sometimes yes and many times no. But I'm also realistic in knowing that even if I have the most fantastic bleed-edge product in any category, that given enough time, it too will be quickly out-done by a competitor.

So for now... and for me, it's more about the bigger picture, the eco system, and consistency between devices. I have no interest in mixing in a Moto watch, or any other watch other than an Apple Watch. But I won't buy the Apple Watch until I see one that I want and that may be never... or it may be version 3 of the watch.
 
Hmm. My Moto 360 updated itself over WiFi yesterday. No phone required.
It will do that since it was paired with an Android device. The watch still requires the phone to perform the initial connection and provides the watch with a list of know WiFi connections.
After that, yes, the watch can update over WiFi without the phone being present.

Does the iOS app allow the Android Wear watches with WiFi to automatically connect to known hotspots?
The WiFi feature is not available for iOS.
The Android Wear app disables the WiFi feature on the watch when you pair it with an iPhone.
 
I'm still trying to understand exactly what this learning curve is with Watch. After I set mine up it took maybe 5 minutes max to figure it out. I've had mine for about a month and nothing about it confuses me. Can you explain what exactly is confusing about Watch?

Is there anything Apple related that you won't defend; seemingly to the (virtual) death? Like, if Apple bombed a small village would you be the first to post a series of rationalizations and excuses? I must admit though, the fervor with which you stand up for the Cupertino Kids is quite impressive.
 
It will do that since it was paired with an Android device. The watch still requires the phone to perform the initial connection and provides the watch with a list of know WiFi connections.

Yep, I knew that.

The Android Wear app disables the WiFi feature on the watch when you pair it with an iPhone.

Thanks, that's why I was asking. Darn.
 
Thanks, that's why I was asking. Darn.
Yeah.. it does suck.
First thing I looked for when I paired my 360 was the WiFi setting.
The toggle is removed/hidden/disabled on the watch and there is no setting for it in the Android Wear app on iOS.
 
Yeah.. it does suck.
First thing I looked for when I paired my 360 was the WiFi setting.
The toggle is removed/hidden/disabled on the watch and there is no setting for it in the Android Wear app on iOS.
This is kind of mind boggling and something that I have to expect will eventually find its way into the app. Even if it can't read wifi spots from iOS itself (I don't know if this is a restriction or not) it seems feasible to allow the app to at least search for a wifi hotspot and allow the user to connect from there. Otherwise iOS only users can't update their android wear watches?
 
This is kind of mind boggling and something that I have to expect will eventually find its way into the app. Even if it can't read wifi spots from iOS itself (I don't know if this is a restriction or not) it seems feasible to allow the app to at least search for a wifi hotspot and allow the user to connect from there. Otherwise iOS only users can't update their android wear watches?
You can still update the watch without WiFi... the update gets transferred via Bluetooth from the phone to the watch.
That's how it has always worked before Google introduced WiFi sync.
 
The Huawei Watch does not look bad. The black face looks like a real watch but the blue face needs more help but again for a first generation product im impressed. I see a lot of potential in this watch.
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These arguments really boil down to taste. For instance, I would never buy this watch for myself:

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But somebody does or they wouldn't make it, and hundreds of others just like it. And that's what getting into the watch business is all about -- CHOICE. Jony Ive has already publicly acknowledged this.

So it goes without saying that I would never pick this particular watch face for my smartwatch either. But for someone else, not only would they pick it, they might actually like how it looks backlit, over the real watch face. And who cares?

I find it humorous that these people who have climbed up on a soapbox to decry round smartwatches, are illustrating their point with poorly designed UIs, from companies who have a notorious track record in that area to begin with, and finding the most garish examples of watch faces they can -- completely ignoring some of the more elegant designs. What they're really advocating for is elimination of individual choice.

This is an absolutely beautiful looking watch face, comparable to Apple's stylistic choices with its Watch. Indeed from this angle the case looks just as nice as the Watch, and it has a balanced symmetry with a nice metal bezel, with the watch face going to the edge, which I personally prefer over Apple's arbitrarily restricting the display edges so there's a greater barrier between the display and the watch edge. But that's just me. I certainly wouldn't presume to impose my preferences on anyone else, much less deny them theirs.

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The smartwatch makers may be marketing with traditional watch faces, which may get people to look at them, but if they don't like what they see, then they won't buy it. Just because Huwei and others may be using an arguably foolish sales tactic, does not mean that's all the watch is capable of, or that such "garish" face designs be banned from user choice to use them. The idea that these smartwatch makers are trying to pass their $300 electronic watches off as Luxury brands by using similar watch faces, is as silly as suggesting Fossil is trying to compete with Rolex with the blue-faced watch I posted above.
 
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I am interested in the technical way how Google achieved the required functionality for the Android Wear to work. Apple does not supply any official API to read notifications from all the installed third party apps, so how is that Android Wear app has access to them that it can send them to their watch display?

I suspect they used some unsupported hack because of this statement found on an Android site:

Google's statement, then, seems to be one of future caution: they aren't promising that Wear for iOS will continue to work for these watches, nor that the functionality will be 100% optimal.
 
So I decided to try the Urbane at work today (Verizon) and see how it works. I've got the app on a 6 Plus and the Urbane connected. So far I'm getting all SMS and iMessages. It's also picking up notifications from eBay and Amazon. When I received a phone call I was able to answer it on the watch, but you can't use the watch for the call, it just answered the phone for me (this would be sweet if I'd brought my bluetooth headset with me today).

If I used the Gmail app instead of Outlook, it would get my email notifications as well it looks like. Anyway, this has been in the last half hour, but I can't decide if I want to buy one yet or not.
 
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Is there anything Apple related that you won't defend; seemingly to the (virtual) death? Like, if Apple bombed a small village would you be the first to post a series of rationalizations and excuses? I must admit though, the fervor with which you stand up for the Cupertino Kids is quite impressive.
How about answering my question? Also I guess you didn't see my posts complaining about Apple buying Beats, the problems with Apple Music, why I think Cook needs to hire someone to run their cloud business, why I think they need to up entry level storage to 32GB, why I think getting into original content production is a bad idea, etc. I'm not some blind fangirl. But I really would love to know what is so confusing about using Watch. Maybe I'm using it wrong.
 
How about answering my question? Also I guess you didn't see my posts complaining about Apple buying Beats, the problems with Apple Music, why I think Cook needs to hire someone to run their cloud business, why I think they need to up entry level storage to 32GB, why I think getting into original content production is a bad idea, etc. I'm not some blind fangirl. But I really would love to know what is so confusing about using Watch. Maybe I'm using it wrong.

You may have a point. On the danakin "blind Apple fan scale" there are 2 or 3 other posters more effusive in their blind loyalty.
 
I am interested in the technical way how Google achieved the required functionality for the Android Wear to work. Apple does not supply any official API to read notifications from all the installed third party apps, so how is that Android Wear app has access to them that it can send them to their watch display?

I suspect they used some unsupported hack because of this statement found on an Android site:

Google's statement, then, seems to be one of future caution: they aren't promising that Wear for iOS will continue to work for these watches, nor that the functionality will be 100% optimal.

Maybe the same way Pebble works on IOS?
 
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About time. I love my Apple Watch, but google should have been on iOS a long time ago.

It is nice for people to have options.

I applaud Google for doing this. I was waiting for the 2nd gen Apple Watch to buy. It looks like when that time comes Google may have a more developed iOS version for me to consider other smartwatches as a potential selection song with the Apple Watch. Way to go Google!

Apple should never allow any android POS watch be available to talk to any iOS device.

I'd rather see Apple open itself to the competition, but I'm guessing they'll limit access to the other watches somehow in the iOS. I hope they won't limit them. I'd like to see Apple offer the Apple Watch under the Android OS too.
 
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How about answering my question? Also I guess you didn't see my posts complaining about Apple buying Beats, the problems with Apple Music, why I think Cook needs to hire someone to run their cloud business, why I think they need to up entry level storage to 32GB, why I think getting into original content production is a bad idea, etc. I'm not some blind fangirl. But I really would love to know what is so confusing about using Watch. Maybe I'm using it wrong.
Clearly you're not using it wrong if you're not having issues. Not sure why you'd even add that little but other than to dig that knife in a little.

The little bit I've used the watch (wife has one and loves it since she doesn't have to keep her phone in her pocket at work) I didn't like the little dial (there's a name for it but I've said a million times im not a watch guy and I don't recall right now.), especially after Apple's lovely video about how intuitive the thing is. As intuitive as I've found everything in iOS that's how unintuitive I find that thing in terms of navigating the watch, but virtually all watched have some sort of structure there and it obviously fits aesthetically.

It's obviously not an impossibility to figure out. And I don't even consider it worse than the competition. But I can understand that there are people out there who may find there is a learning curve. There probably was one with the iPhone for me too, maybe. I've been using one so long that I honestly don't remember.
 
The key word here is "officially" supported.
Any watch running Android Wear 1.3 or higher will work.
Except not well apparently. Which is why only the LG is supported. It seems the Moto 360 has some major issues. Also, I would imagine a lot of it has to do with the shipping firmware. Since it requires newer firmware, you couldn't get past the setup process on a Android Wear device with older firmware.
 
So I decided to try the Urbane at work today (Verizon) and see how it works. I've got the app on a 6 Plus and the Urbane connected. So far I'm getting all SMS and iMessages. It's also picking up notifications from eBay and Amazon. When I received a phone call I was able to answer it on the watch, but you can't use the watch for the call, it just answered the phone for me (this would be sweet if I'd brought my bluetooth headset with me today).

If I used the Gmail app instead of Outlook, it would get my email notifications as well it looks like. Anyway, this has been in the last half hour, but I can't decide if I want to buy one yet or not.

Intriguing.

Sounds like a similar experience as the pebble.

I'm sure if you're able to activate Siri from the watch that it would be a work around in that you'd be speaking to your phone in your pocket rather than your watch. They have Bluetooth remotes that let you activate siri I wonder if apple made specific rules about watches having the same funtionality.
 
How many "pos android watches" have you tried on the iPhone? How about reserve judgment until a review actually comes out/you try it yourself. Don't let blind allegiance to a brand get in the way of trying other options.
We are all Apple Sheep...LOL Actually, no, Apple makes amazing hardware. They put a lot more work into the actual hardware and functionality than any other PC, phone, & watch company. Apple products are beautiful and molded aluminum while the competition is plastic. It's like saying I could go buy a Cadillac but I'll settle for a Chevy Cruze. Both have 4 wheels, motor, doors, and seats so they must be the same.
 
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