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What are you talking about? How is that a "trojan horse" when you buy into Apple's ecosystem voluntarily?
Because I would rather be able to use any device and have more choices. I may buy iOS because I like the device, but not because I want to be locked in and have to buy Apple everything. Why would anyone want to be locked in? There is no benefit to the user.
 
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More like they use a square text window that's clipped by the circular edges at top and bottom, similar to the way that text is squarely clipped in the 38mm Apple Watch (as compared to the 42mm), only less so, since at least some text is still visible in the upper and lower curves.

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(above: Apple 42mm vs 38mm.) Dissing round watches for clipped text is like dissing 38mm Apple watches for not showing as much as their bigger brother.

Of course clipping is not a big problem in real life for either the smaller Apple watches or round watches, since most watch text is short anyway. If it's not, you have to scroll on ANY shape display.



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The round watches give a full analog clock face to the display edge, and put the complications in the middle where they traditionally belong. It gives the best of both worlds in the case of the display that many of us look at quite often.

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However, many people these days cannot read analog watchfaces, so even having one is off their list.

Thank you so much for highlighting the difference between the 38 & 42mm text boxes. I had assumed the 38mm was a scaled down version of the 42mm, a compromise in of itself. But, the fact it actually displays less text is stunning - clearly Apple found there was a size that was too small even for Retina display. I wonder how many other differences between the way apps display on the 38 vs. the 42.

Obviously the 38mm, even more than the 42, was meant for "glances" -- just like Jony Ive stated, going on to say that anything more than a glance a person should pull out their iPhones. The idea that people are going to read and respond to lengthy text messages on the watch is not how it was designed to be used.

I agree about reading analogue watch faces, do they even teach that in school anymore? The fact Apple chose to put a round watch face within a square device demonstrates that they are less concerned with practicality than aesthetics. What could be clearer than a numerical readout giving the process hours, minutes and seconds at a glance? So what if people want to emulate an analogue watch face on their watch, despite a numeric readout is better and more efficient, especially on a square display? I think Jony Ive said it best, "As soon as something is worn, we have expectations of choice".
 
What on earth...what is 'access to the GBs'?

You can attach anything to an email. No idea what you're on about.
i meant to say, user accessible storage. u can have x amount of storage on iphones, but its not user accessible, meaning you simply cant plug it to computer and copy files/content to it.

go ahead, open up default email app, compose a new email and attach a non image file. then post your response. thx.
 
Huh, the new Huawei watch is rumored to be priced from $300-$800. And LG is releasing a gold plated Urbane for $1200.

Apple edition starts at $10000 ;) Apple is top end pricing in the low, medium and top end, and usually by more than 1/2
 
You need an Android phone or an Android emulator to update the OS. The iOS Android Wear app will be able to keep the watch up to date after you get it connected.

Hmm. My Moto 360 updated itself over WiFi yesterday. No phone required.

Does the iOS app allow the Android Wear watches with WiFi to automatically connect to known hotspots?

Thank you so much for highlighting the difference between the 38 & 42mm text boxes. I had assumed the 38mm was a scaled down version of the 42mm, a compromise in of itself. But, the fact it actually displays less text is stunning - clearly Apple found there was a size that was too small even for Retina display. I wonder how many other differences between the way apps display on the 38 vs. the 42.

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Yep, it makes little sense to talk about less visible text when that situation already exists with Apple watches as well... and millions of people are perfectly fine with it.

Obviously the 38mm, even more than the 42, was meant for "glances" -- just like Jony Ive stated, going on to say that anything more than a glance a person should pull out their iPhones. The idea that people are going to read and respond to lengthy text messages on the watch is not how it was designed to be used.

Exactly. Heck, if the point was to read more lines of text, then we would all be using a Samsung Gear S:

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This is excellent. More choices for Apple users and bodes product confidence from Apple. Everyone knows that Apple could have easily blocked this from being included in the App store.
 
Do you have a picture of this actual watch versus this PR photo? Does the actual watch face look exactly like what's in this photo? IMO these watches never look quite as good in real life.mostly because in real life it looks like a bright electronic display whereas the press shots make the display look more like a traditional watch.

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To me Watch press shots and the device in real life look much more alike.
Your picture is of the urbane and you quoted the Huawei.
 
Yes, compatible if your like half assed integration... Then why even buy an Iphone; go Android all the way and buy the phone too, if you like cheap and half assed.
 
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Great news! I had an Android Wear watch before I switched to iPhone a few months ago and was really missing it.
Sure it doesn't integrate as well as it does with an Android phone or as well as an Apple Watch does with iOS - but really 99% of it is about notifications, music control etc... If you want to do anything more complex than that (even replying to a message), once the novelty has worn off you just get your phone out of your pocket - it's much easier to pull your phone out and use a full sized screen than it is to faff around on your watch.

The Google Now cards are supported and I found them to be extremely useful, so that's a massive bonus.

Ultimately I don't want a £350 watch that might not work with my next phone - I like Android and iOS, both are great platforms (as long as you avoid Samsung) and want to be able to choose my next phone based on it's own merits next time around.
 
Give me a link to a $100 Android Wear device that is going to be compatible with iOS. The rumored entry price for the Huawei watch is $300.
Multiple news sites that went to Google to test drive the devices stated that this was the price point Google had for a series of watches. If you are interested, you may google it yourself. That is actually how I found the info.

It's also worth noting that the iPhone has been reported to work with the Moto 360, as well as some others, which didn't make Google's list (this I also found on Google). It makes sense that, at least initially, Google would state official support for a limited set of devices as well as future releases. It's not unlike Apple with Windows 10. I have Windows 10 running in boot camp on my 2011 MBP despite the fact it didn't make the cut on Apple's list.
 
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The key word here is "officially" supported.
Any watch running Android Wear 1.3 or higher will work.
This is something that most folks are missing, I think. Part of that blam is on how Google worded things, especially in some vidiew interviews I watched. TRhey do make it seem like the feature just won't make it to older devices. And, not to put Apple users in a bad light, but unfortunately they (we since I am one too) are used to, especially with OSX releases, being told certain features simply won't work on older hardware (often justified due to hardware limitations). So it's easy to just assume all older android watches simply didn't make the cut.
 
Yes, compatible if your like half assed integration... Then why even buy an Iphone; go Android all the way and buy the phone too, if you like cheap and half assed.

Get off your high horse. The Apple Watch is still not available everywhere the iPhone is sold, but iPhone users in those countries (including me) would still like to get notifications and other smartwatch functionality. This compatibility provides a nice expansion of choices as not everyone likes how a Pebble looks and/or works.
 
Your picture is of the urbane and you quoted the Huawei.
Yes I know but the general point still stands IMO. The renders always look better than the device in real life. Here's a real life photo of the Huawei:

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The Huawei Watch does not look bad. The black face looks like a real watch but the blue face needs more help but again for a first generation product im impressed. I see a lot of potential in this watch.
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Because I would rather be able to use any device and have more choices. I may buy iOS because I like the device, but not because I want to be locked in and have to buy Apple everything. Why would anyone want to be locked in? There is no benefit to the user.

I think pretty much the entire world understands at this point that when you buy an iPhone, you're locked into Apple's ecosystem. So you buy an iPhone with the acceptance that you're buying into Apple's ecosystem.

If you bought the device and complain that you're locked in, then you're simply a bad consumer.
 
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