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Thank you for admitting the problem.

The solution is what President Trump is trying to achieve.

1. Increase manufacturing and productivity within the US. Making businesses want to manufacture within the USA.
2. Getting a fair deal for the imports that can't be manufactured within the USA.

So far China is the only country not on board with this. If the US needs something, just look elsewhere in the world for it. The other countries are smart enough to realise they do not want to lose easy access to thr US markets for their own exports.

The horse President Trump hitched his wagon to is the US people and the US nation.

Historically Democrats were in favour of tariffs. Trump is just using the art of the deal to get it done in such a way that puts the USA first.

A fair deal, for the richest most powerful country on the planet? Give me a break.
People just lap up this utter nonsense.
 
That's why the baseline of 10% tariffs work. Assuming both sides agree to it.

That's low enough that people will pay the slightly higher price for it but also high enough that the US manufacturers will seek out (where possible) a locally made or manufactured part to use instead.
it would be ok if it's a 10% across the board. Tell all the countries sorry there's nothing personal, and making it a law to use that tariff income to cultivate manufacturing in the US. Democrats would be happy to vote for that.

This "you all owe us something, now come kiss Trump's ass" tariff is just going to piss everybody off.
 
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it would be ok if it's a 10% across the board. Tell all the countries sorry there's nothing personal, and making it a law to use that tariff income to cultivate manufacturing in the US. Democrats would be happy to vote for that.

IMHO if you want to subsidize your local economy using other forms of taxation like income tax would be arguably better as they can be made more progressive.

I see very few people in the US being in favour of an increase of income tax while they seem far more on board with tariffs which ultimately would be likely to siphon far more money from them than a higher income tax would.

IMHO tariffs don't receive the same hostility as traditional forms of taxation because some don't recognize that they effectively are a form of taxation too and don't realize how much money they would ultimately cost them.
 
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Washing Machines are easy to find Made in the USA.
Speed Queen is made in Wisconsin.
Whirlpool and Maytag in Ohio.
GE in Kentucky.

Whirlpool, GE, Sub-Zero, True Residential refrigerators are Made in the USA, too.

Does anybody "need" a television?
But some parts are made in other parts of the world as well as in China.
 
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Interesting that four Anker items I bought over the last year are still the price I bought them for.

A year ago in April, I bought two Anker Powerhouse 757 for about $600 each and they are still that price with the included coupon on Amazon.

I also bought two Anker Solix 300 and they are still $159 with included coupon on Amazon.
 
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Belkin makes a lot of stuff in Vietnam. I'm told Best Buy's Insignia cables are also made there. Much of this push will ultimately be to help Vietnam (who is increasingly friendly with the US) and the surrounding area, as well as India.
Except they don’t have nearly enough manufacturing capacity in those countries. And you don’t just spin it up over night. It will take years and nobody will invest the money to do it with all of the instability the orange moron has created.
 
And about the so-called “fair trade” — what does that even mean? So far, neither the President nor his advisors have clearly defined what a "fair deal" actually looks like. It’s just vague political language without substance at this point.

Is it 0% tariff on both side? This won't work, it will increase trade deficit even more.
If we believe that free trade has somehow screwed the American worker and/or the American manufacturing base, a '0% tariff on both sides' deal is not what you're aiming. This would likely result in even more free trade than we already have, making it easier to manufacture abroad and import more stuff. If a deal like this is someone's definition of "fair trade", then getting more manufacturing back to the USA was never their goal.

I've heard a few people say that if these tariffs result in the USA getting better trade deals, then that's a win. I would think that a better trade deal means an increase in trade for both sides, meaning freer trade. It seems absurd to me that such an extremely disruptive, risky and scorched earth approach was all so that the USA can have a few new trade deal to get freer trade.
 
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It goes the other direction is well. American farmers, particularly soybean, farmers, will either be wiped out or will have to bail out by taxpayers at a cost of tens of billions of dollars. This happened the last time from trying to put tariffs on China, it could be much worse this time.
And a lot of those farmers lost their family farms! Meaning not only loss of income, but of their homes (often generational homes and lands which had been in the family for a century or more). There were also a lot of suicides (mostly the men, head of household) — after they were foreclosed due to unsold, spoiled product with nowhere to go. And who bought up those firesale foreclosure properties? Large corporations and investors. Now Trump is setting up more US businesses to fail, and for people to lose their homes, livelihoods, and maybe their lives due to despair.
 
Hold on, let me go on Amazon to find an American-made iPhone accessory similar to Anker…

Oh wait, there are none.

That’s why the tariffs are stupid. We don’t even have a competitor to prop up!
But isn’t tariff supposed to convince domestic production to ramp up its local capacity? Or the tech to build small electronics don’t exist in US today?
 
No price increase in the UK! We bought a few Anker cables this week for my wife's new iPhone 16 that had ...... gone down in price. It's going to be an interesting 4 years to say the least. Maybe Apple prices will finally equalise between the UK and the US. We've always paid far more .. and it's been nothing to do with tariffs.
20% VAT doesn't help.
 
Much of this push will ultimately be to help Vietnam (who is increasingly friendly with the US) and the surrounding area, as well as India.
Being friendly varies. It would be such as Make Vietnam Great Again, Make India Great Again, and similar sentiments. Those nations were indeed great centuries ago. In particular, Vietnam has not forgotten.
 
20% VAT doesn't help.
20% VAT is standard in the UK on everything. It's not uniquely applied to US goods! Trump likes to pretend otherwise. Strangely, we believe the state can do some useful things for us in the UK like providing healthcare free at source. This is where taxes go and most of us are happy with that.
 
Is America winning yet?

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Well inflation is on the decline. Factually. So I’d say we’re on the right path. Americans can survive by either abstaining from or spending a little more on anker products while posturing against China who has been ripping us off since forever.
Egg prices? Cheaper. Gas cheaper. Interest rates, heading down. Companies have invested hundreds and hundreds of billions in our future, more in two months than bidens entire term. The stock market will rebound. It always does. It’s volatile and reacting to china tarrifs. This was expected. This is something every president knew needed to be done, but would never be able to absorb the blow like Trump. The only thing that makes life terrible right now is the far left and legacy/social media having absolute meltdowns about everything everyday. Aside from that, things are looking up. Some of this has to happen. China has to posture to show its people it’s not weak, but we are their core consumer base. They need us. People seem to think they don’t, but they do.
 
But isn’t tariff supposed to convince domestic production to ramp up its local capacity? Or the tech to build small electronics don’t exist in US today?
To my knowledge, there aren't any products like that made in the USA. It's possible there aren't any made in North America. Tariffs wouldn't solve that problem anytime soon. Also, they'd have to make it cheaply enough to compete in North America, which would be extremely difficult if not impossible.

Outside of Asia, I don't think there is any large manufacturing presence in any other region for small electronics products and accessories like what Anker produces. 🤔 I think you'll find some products manufactured in other places but nowhere near the same scale.
 
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