Dated a girl in college from FL. Her dad was a state trooper. He told me some days if you aren't doing 90+ they don't have time to mess with you.
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Dated a girl in college from FL. Her dad was a state trooper. He told me some days if you aren't doing 90+ they don't have time to mess with you.
Well, the law won't see it that way. In this case the Camaro's driver is at fault, because he was the one tailgating and speeding to pass over a solid yellow line. Yes, the pickup driver was annoying, but that's about it. All he has to say is that he was driving at the speed limit and didn't want to speed-up to overtake the large truck on the right lane. The Camaro's driver could have waited to pass the pickup truck, just like the driver who was recording the event would have done. More than likely the truck on the right lane was was being driven at the speed limit.
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Actually, it's illegal to impede the flow of traffic, though the conditions for that vary from state to state in terms of left lane laws. The pickup truck clearly intended to block the Camaro in indefinitely. Camaro driver could wait all day and wouldn't be able to (legally) pass because the pickup was purposely matching the speed of the semi. Additionally, insurance might very well see things differently regardless of the law. For instance, there are cases where someone hit by a red light runner is held partially liable for the wreck (even though they didn't get cited for a moving violation) because they failed to use due caution (e.g. you floor it through a green light the second it turns green without being sure it's clear).
The problem is that the Camaro's driver committed two illegal acts: tailgating, and crossing a solid yellow line to pass. He could have waited for a (dotted) passing line. There is a pretty good chance that he will be charged with reckless driving.
Yes, literally no one disagrees with that. I'm just saying the pickup driver is by no means innocent in the situation. I've noticed on YouTube and other places that many people seem to have a black-and-white view of every incident, insisting that one and only one driver must be to blame. That's not always the case, and it's not here.
When I was working in Virginia I had to take a left turn from stoplight on timed left turn light! in the early morning times the first car seem to stay still when light would go green to turn left on Fairfax Parkway! I would call these people 'Red Light Sleepers' while other cars were beeping at that car! This would bee at least three times a week sometimes! I dismissed the sleepers because I had turn left to get to work and left turn light was always just 20 seconds too!
Sorry, I can't help it 😄
But, yes, it's quite annoying when people aren't paying attention and time is critical.
Not necessarily. The one "impeding" the speed limit violators might be driving at or below the upper limit. There is a low limit too, and I think that the law actually states that drivers going slower than the upper limit should stay out of the passing lane. On a two-lane road, it's actually legal to exceed the upper limit when passing a vehicle driving slower than that.
The laws regarding when one is legally required to move over vary from state to state. But for smart, safe drivers, that's neither here nor there, because the best thing to do when someone is approaching you from behind wanting to go faster than you is to always MOVE OVER if you're safely able to do so. It doesn't matter whether they're going 5mph more than you or 20mph more than you. It doesn't matter how much you loathe speeders. The vast majority of "speed limit violators" are not going to simply give up if you refuse to move over. They're going to attempt to weave through traffic to your right to get by you or if they're really crazy, they'll pass you on the shoulder. Just move over.
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I blame the pickup truck in many ways, too. The pickup was essentially matching the speed of the semitruck, a potentially highly dangerous maneuver given if something goes wrong with the pickup it will take multiple cars with it.
That's the problem in a nutshell.
People that won't get out of the left lane are creating a safety issue. And a greater one that the lone speeding driver.
If a vehicle is very slow to pass and then refuses to move over when clear, all they are going is creating a situation where other drivers are going to have to weave to get around them. At some point, someone is going to make a mistake and then you have an accident at highway speeds.
I have noticed over the past couple of years states are starting to pass laws against left-lane squatters. And I want to say it was SC or GA had some of their traffic control signs (the big ones on the interstate that alert people to traffic conditions, Amber alerts, etc) that said "Camp out in the mountains and not the left lane. "
Of course all the laws in the world won't do any good if they are not enforced.
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One of the worst offenders are people who don't know how to stay in their lane when turning, even when the lanes are marked. Turning left in the outside lane is always a gamble (had to do it here because my exit is immediately after the turn).
It makes no difference which way people are turning. The vast majority do not turn into the lane they are supposed to. Right turners turn into the left lane all the time. Therefore, most people wanting to turn left onto the same street will wait for the other driver to complete the right turn into the left lane. I don't. I turn (left) into the left lane, forcing the right turner to turn into the right (double meaning) lane.
I'll never understand this one, especially since they act completely flabbergasted that someone was in the adjacent lane when you honk. How can you be so out of it to think that all of a sudden you're the only one on the road when you're turning? SMH!
Drivers who use their phones while driving and do so blantantly despite it being against the law and incredibly dangerous for other road users. I see it daily and it boils my blood.
Agreed. Especially as nearly all cars have BT these days. How hard is it to pair your phone?
I scared the 💩 out of a women over the weekend. It was at a stop sign in a parking lot and she was looking at her phone as she S L O W L Y turned in front of me. It was clear she was paying more attention to the phone than making the turn.
So I hit the horn. She jumped.
My daughter's high school is on the corner of two very busy streets that have become even busier with the influx of people moving to Phoenix. I purposely choose one specific entrance/exit when picking her up/dropping her off because exiting is a right hand turn.
There is a sign specifically prohibiting left hand turns, primarily because the intersection itself is close to the entrance/exit of the school. Every flipping day there are a bunch of people who completely ignore the sign. Traffic to exit the parking lot is held up time and again because those ignoring the sign are waiting extreme lengths of time for a break in heavy traffic in both directions.
Some of these morons will make a right turn and then pull an immediate u-turn in front of both directions of oncoming traffic, just to make that illegal left turn.
I'm waiting for the day one of these idiots gets broadsided and hoping that none of the kids leaving the school get hurt at the time. It's not a matter of if it will happen, it's just a matter of when. Besides being the average high school parent that never moved beyond their own selfish, self-absorbed high school days, these people are aggressive 'me-first, I'm most important' Phoenix drivers. Many of them exit the school at full throttle, burning rubber trying to beat traffic. If they aren't redlining, they're close to it.
I enter 25+ minutes early, park out of the way and wait for all the stupid people to sort themselves out and exit the parking lot before I leave with my kid. It's just safer that way.
There is a sign specifically prohibiting left hand turns, primarily because the intersection itself is close to the entrance/exit of the school. Every flipping day there are a bunch of people who completely ignore the sign. Traffic to exit the parking lot is held up time and again because those ignoring the sign are waiting extreme lengths of time for a break in heavy traffic in both directions.
Some of these morons will make a right turn and then pull an immediate u-turn in front of both directions of oncoming traffic, just to make that illegal left turn.
I'm waiting for the day one of these idiots gets broadsided and hoping that none of the kids leaving the school get hurt at the time. It's not a matter of if it will happen, it's just a matter of when. Besides being the average high school parent that never moved beyond their own selfish, self-absorbed high school days, these people are aggressive 'me-first, I'm most important' Phoenix drivers. Many of them exit the school at full throttle, burning rubber trying to beat traffic. If they aren't redlining, they're close to it.
I enter 25+ minutes early, park out of the way and wait for all the stupid people to sort themselves out and exit the parking lot before I leave with my kid. It's just safer that way.
I live in what has historically been a snowy area, and many of our arterial streets have a snow lane (my term). Most people don't drive in that lane until they are approaching a street they want to turn right onto. A bad habit many drivers here have is that they don't stop behind the designated line. So on these side streets, many drivers approaching the arterial will stop with the front of their car in that "snow lane" just a foot or two shy of the driving lane. It's a bit disconcerting when such an action takes place right in front of you as you approach the side street, as the drivers don't slow down to stop until the last possible second.
Note: the "snow lane" is a place for snow plow drivers to pile up snow without restricting the width of the lane in which you're supposed to drive.
Note: the "snow lane" is a place for snow plow drivers to pile up snow without restricting the width of the lane in which you're supposed to drive.
Thanks for the explanation as I had no idea what a snow lane was. We don’t get those here.
Well, unless there's a sign saying no u-turns there, that would be the way to do it if you needed to go that direction (assuming they're not cutting anyone off), and that would not qualify as a left turn, so they're not disobeying the signage and holding everyone else up. As I said in my #12 complaint in my OP, it drives me crazy when people try to make a difficult, risky left turn instead of simply making a U-turn down the road or finding some other way of turning around.
People should check what state and local laws say about U-turns. Where I live, the u-turn that eyoungren and you are discussing would be illegal. The lack of a sign doesn't make it legal.
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