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OS 11 in 2020, the transition OS X to OS 11 is going to be 2020-2023.
OS C in 2200, the transition OS 99 to OS C is going to be 2200-2203.
OS C in 2200, the transition OS 99 to OS C is going to be 2200-2203.
I think leopard is gonna be great. I can't wait to pick it up hopefully within the month of march along with iwork 07 and ilife 07.
Perhaps
to those saying they will be disappointed in the lack of features (new finder, secrets, etc.),
Perhaps it won't have a flashy new Finder, or secret stuff. But I for one plan on buying a copy of Leopard for myself and every Mac owning member of my family just based on the features Apple has listed on their website. this may sound weak but the remote help feature in iChat alone will save me countless headaches. refined spotlight controls will undoubtedly be helpful. I'm not a programmer but updates to the "Core features" like Core Animation should provide some nice eye-candy for us end users. better 64bit support (I'm still using G4's so not a big boost for me, but I'm sure it will help performance for many people). For some people Time Machine will be well worth the investment.
In short, don't get me wrong I'm sure you are right that there will be a bit of a letdown if there doesn't turn out to be many of the things you listed. But, for me they are just extras compared to the value I find in many other features we do already know Leopard will have.
Secretly I'm hoping part of the secret features (if they do in fact exist) is more built in PVR functionality to record shows. this "Might" actually make an
TV worth the price to me, though I'm sure this is unlikely since Apple will want to promote buying shows from the iTunes store.
anyhow just my 2 cents (probably only worth 1 cent ;-) )
to those saying they will be disappointed in the lack of features (new finder, secrets, etc.),
Perhaps it won't have a flashy new Finder, or secret stuff. But I for one plan on buying a copy of Leopard for myself and every Mac owning member of my family just based on the features Apple has listed on their website. this may sound weak but the remote help feature in iChat alone will save me countless headaches. refined spotlight controls will undoubtedly be helpful. I'm not a programmer but updates to the "Core features" like Core Animation should provide some nice eye-candy for us end users. better 64bit support (I'm still using G4's so not a big boost for me, but I'm sure it will help performance for many people). For some people Time Machine will be well worth the investment.
In short, don't get me wrong I'm sure you are right that there will be a bit of a letdown if there doesn't turn out to be many of the things you listed. But, for me they are just extras compared to the value I find in many other features we do already know Leopard will have.
Secretly I'm hoping part of the secret features (if they do in fact exist) is more built in PVR functionality to record shows. this "Might" actually make an
TV worth the price to me, though I'm sure this is unlikely since Apple will want to promote buying shows from the iTunes store.anyhow just my 2 cents (probably only worth 1 cent ;-) )
Personally, I don't really care if there are additional unannounced features. Leopard, as I understand it, is already worth the upgrade. Between Time machine, Spaces, and CoreAnimation, I'm already happy. All the rest sounds nice, and any other new thing would be icing on the cake.
But I still think you're wrong about no new UI and Finder...
In addition the already mentioned features and secret features (if they actually exist), I'm also looking forward to increased Intel performace/optimisation. I expect Leopard to run superfast on Intel macs.
I'm also expecting Leopard to be incredibly stable. 2x more stable would do. It's not that it's unstable but Safari always crashes on me at least once a day. Nothing to complain about of course but hopefully Apple could make crashes more rare. Since Panther, I've never had any crashes that froze my whole computer up.
What about an automatic way to uninstall apps? Nobody's wishing for this? I'm a PC user, about to transition, but one of the first things that surprised me about Macs was the lack of a program registry and the cumbersome way you therefore have to uninstall programs.
On the other hand, your Mac doesn't get cluttered with tons of unused files and registry entries that slow down the system like Windows. My Mac Pro can still boot in 12 seconds after I installed and uninstalled loads of programs etc.
I'm sorry man but who cares how fast it boots??
People make it sound like they sit at their computer constantly booting their computer..
I have Tiger and Leopard dual booting and the only time I re-boot is to test something..
No offense
Yeah you can, but this leaves behind any library files in Application Support, special frameworks, etc. Depending on the program these can add up to more hard disc space than the application itself.
Which is a good thing. Not having a registry prevents certain kinds of well-known problems.
Pretty much any program that's complex enough to put bunches of files in possibly obscure places has its own uninstaller. Otherwise, just drag to the trash. I don't see any reason for this to change.
--Eric
I'm expecting Leopard to be a huge disappointment. There will be no new finder, no new UI and no secret features, simply because I think these features and new designs would have appeared in a beta already. It wouldn't make sense to hold these back now that Vista is out. On the contrary, showcasing the new and improved and soon to be released Osx could make people hesitate to buy a new Vista PC...
So I'm sure we'll all be disappointed...
(And who cares if 10.4.9 is the last update or if it could be followed by 10.4.9.1 or 10.4.10 or whatever, get a life people)
Wow, that was one negative post
While I am also not getting my hopes up about Leopard's features, to minimise disappointment when it is eventually released, what people should realise is that the builds being seeded to developers do not necessarily indicate the state of Leopard's readiness in general.
I am willing to put money on the fact that the builds being seeded to developers represents a completely separate code branch (look up source control branching if you aren't familiar with it), and does NOT necessarily represent the release version of Leopard that Apple's developers are readying.
The purpose of Apple releasing early builds to developers is so they can ready their own products for the release of Leopard, and at a minimum requires that core operating system functions and libraries etc represent those that will be released with Leopard. It also gives them a feel for what they will be working with. Tight control over new features, UI changes etc are highest priority. The updated builds that are received by external developers probably represent significant and relevant 'merges' from the main development branch.
Apple has some of the tightest control over their upcoming products than any other company in the industry, which all comes down to marketing strategy. Giving too much away too early means that the "Wow"
impact of the new release is watered-down.Expect to be impressed (I hope)
Rob
2 x more stable? So that means you're happy with Safari crashing on you at least once every two days
I was under the impression that there would be some really cool hardware released at MacWorld. But that didn't happen either.
Many many people have been waiting for something new from Apple for a while now. Looks like my Mac Pro purchase is on hold indefinitely........
I can care less if 10.4.9 is followed by 10.4.10, or 10.4.dingleberry, or whether it's the last update or not before Leopard.
I'm currently running at 10.4.7, as 10.4.8 royally screwed up airport on my intel imac. 10.4.9 better fix it, but as airport is not listed in its current list of bug fixes, it's looking pretty grim.
I'm currently running at 10.4.7, as 10.4.8 royally screwed up airport on my intel imac. 10.4.9 better fix it, but as airport is not listed in its current list of bug fixes, it's looking pretty grim.