Another iPhone 7 fail

[kre62]

The "Apple has Failed" Club must be serving alcohol this year because people are getting desperate in trying to come up with reasons why the iPhone 7 is a failure to join that club.

Actually no desperation needed. Its remarkably easy to come up with a reason the 7 doesnt measure up. Thats why its the first step down for iphone year over year. For once the previous model remains the worlds best iphone with the 7 coming in slightly behind.

 

[E.Lizardo]

Right. That's you! And then there are those who see the Apple logo and automatically reach for their wallet.

I believe they called it courageous, I call it a way of getting more money from you. I predict most users will lose that stupid dongle then complain they can't buy another cause they're out of stock.

Re my other issue. I logged into my Apple ID and got some of my apps back but not all and some were paid apps. I called Apple, they restored some more but again I "lost" some paid apps. The Apple support person told me the rest would be restored in an hour. It's been 4 days and they weren't so I returned the phone.

Um.. you said they TOLD you to buy them again. Is that now false?

 

[daviddth]

Actually no desperation needed. Its remarkably easy to come up with a reason the 7 doesnt measure up. Thats why its the first step down for iphone year over year. For once the previous model remains the worlds best iphone with the 7 coming in slightly behind.

The 7 is faster, more water resistant (I refuse to say waterproof), brighter, faster 4G performance, marginally better camera, more useful taptic engine, and louder speakers, all with a slightly longer run time on the battery. I think they far outweigh the loss of the headphone jack.
The 6S was a great phone, and this is an incremental update to it, and while I don't think it's worth the full upgrade to the 7 name, and should have been called 6SV2 or something, but it's not a step back at all

 

[Armen]

For once the previous model remains the worlds best iphone with the 7 coming in slightly behind.

That is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. Care to back up your claim? (I hope the headphone jack isn't your argument).

 

[Applejuiced]

Actually no desperation needed. Its remarkably easy to come up with a reason the 7 doesnt measure up. Thats why its the first step down for iphone year over year. For once the previous model remains the worlds best iphone with the 7 coming in slightly behind.

Wow, distorted reality much?
"The previous model is the worlds best iPhone."
What else are we going to hear
More rediculousness...

 

[daviddcmd]

Um.. you said they TOLD you to buy them again. Is that now false?

What didn't you understand. If I wanted the apps I paid for and apple couldn't restore I was told to re-buy them if I wanted them back.

 

[Applejuiced]

What didn't you understand. If I wanted the apps I paid for and apple couldn't restore I was told to re-buy them if I wanted them back.

I never heard of such thing.
If you already paid for an app even if you try to buy again it will not charge you. It will just download it for free.
You're claiming that they told you will have to pay again for the same app you bought under the same exact Apple ID?
Your story doesn't make sense...

 

[canuckRus]

Why?

As lesson learning clue to the clueless?

 

[timeconsumer]

What didn't you understand. If I wanted the apps I paid for and apple couldn't restore I was told to re-buy them if I wanted them back.

I don't understand this, I always setup my iPhone as new then re-download all of my apps. This includes both free and paid. When you went to the App Store, there was no option to download them? I thought app purchases are tied to your Apple ID. Do you by any chance have multiple Apple ID's?

I never heard of such thing.
If you already paid for an app even if you try to buy again it will not charge you. It will just download it for free.
You're claiming that they told you will have to pay again for the same app you bought under the same exact Apple ID?
Your story doesn't make sense...

I agree it doesn't make sense. When I open the App Store and go to an app I've had installed at one point (whether paid or free) I get a cloud with an arrow pointing down.

 

[Armen]

I disagree with it because it's pure Apple greed and them creating another fragmentation in the marketplace

Apple removed the headphone jack:

• To make room at the bottom of the phone to fit the taptic engine which is required for the new home button which won't break as often as the old one used to
• To add a barometric vent to better get a better reading.
• To give the wireless audio market a swift kick to step up on innovation

and you just call it greed? Yep, I can confirm that you are not tech savvy like you said because you don't know what you're talking about. Furthermore, do you even know what fragmentation means?

 

[AppleB]

As far as the headphone topic. I've been 99% Bluetooth for over a year. Being a musician I only use wired headphones for critical monitoring in the studio.
All of my casual headphones are BT that's just my preference. Wires get in the way with mobile again my preference.

Technology in a lot of cases moves on. You can either move with it or not. It's the users choice.
Apple chose to move their technology in a direction of no analog headphone jack. We can either move with or not.

 

[Small White Car]

Of course the dongle got lost. That's the entire POINT of dongles.

Can't believe how many people around here don't actually get that. I'm 100% on the OP's side, in case you think I'm being sarcastic.

When a company gives you a dongle, yes, THEY are the ones that failed. Not the user. If the world was so ready for this product then they shouldn't have put a dongle in the box. Including it is admitting failure.

 

[bhayes444]

After being an Apple household since the 1980s, it looks like I'll be done.


You, my dear sir, are a prick.
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Exactly. I specifically posted the admittedly short review from a non-techie, because my wife doesn't get wrapped up in specs. She just uses the phone. She upgraded to every new release since iPhone 3, mostly because of me, but she ended up finding something to like about every new iPhone. This is the first one that is a downgrade in her usability.

The headphone jack comes up more than I thought it would - I disagree with it because it's pure Apple greed and them creating another fragmentation in the marketplace, but for my wife it's just a plain PITA at times. From realizing the headphones at the nightstand are the old earbuds and the new ones are in the kitchen, or our kids trying to use it (they have small, kid headphones), or trying to charge it while listening to something, etc., etc., etc. There is not a single consumer benefit to this.

Then why did you buy it? Surely it was not a hidden fact that the iPhone 7/7+ came without a headphone jack. At the very least I'm glad you found out it was too much of a headache to not have the jack and got your money back. I'm not the biggest fan of its removal, but whenever I upgrade from my 6s, and Apple still has no jack, I go in fully understanding this.

I've said this on a couple threads before, but Apple would give you a device without buttons or ports if they could. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it will definitely rub people the wrong way whenever it happens. Removing "features" isn't always a greedy move. Being able to attain the same functionality, while using less space on/in the phone is what technological design is all about. If the lightning standard didn't have the ability to play audio there is no way Apple could have got rid of the headphone jack without switching to USB C, or including BT headphones in the box. It just really sucks lightning isn't used in anything but Apple owned products *sigh*...

 

[unibility]

It's Apple's fail that they've forced this upon us and their solution was a small doggle that as time goes by will be lost by many more.

Apple is not a monopoly in market cell phones. You have other options in this area. Yet in the end you've over looked other viable options and chosen to purchase an iPhone. So this is the fault of the consumer not the manufacturer. This sir is not an iPhone 7 failure as you've stated in your headline. This is whole heartedly in your court and your consumer failure for not responding appropriately to ones need.

 

[chronoflash]

They FORCED nothing. The produced a phone with no headphone jack, but they did not threated to harm you or your family unless you ordered the headphone-jack-less iPhone 7 did they? No, you chose to get one, knowing full well that this could be an issue.

They also did not force you to lose your dongle. Mine is exactly where I left it - on the end of the headphones I regularly use

They removed the headphone jack for users to buy their costly Air Pods that they will lose and buy again. A poll shows that 65% of people on this website will buy the buy the Air Pods.

 

[daviddth]

They removed the headphone jack for users to buy their costly Air Pods that they will lose and buy again. A poll shows that 65% of people on this website will buy the buy the Air Pods.

Again it did not FORCE anyone to buy airpods at all. I certainly have no intention of buying them as I hate their headphones and I don't know a person out of the hundreds of friends that own iPhones that even use the included earphones. I would have been happy to pay $20 less for the phone and not get them included, and I'd guess if you looked in the boxes for all the phones we have ever owned you would find the headphones still wrapped up unused. The only set of headphones that sound worse are the original Beats. I'll stick with my few sets of Bose QC headphones thanks, and I plan on getting the new QC 30's next week, as I have been waiting for them for almost 12 months since I first heard rumors of their existance

 

[uwdude]

Of course the dongle got lost. That's the entire POINT of dongles.

Can't believe how many people around here don't actually get that. I'm 100% on the OP's side, in case you think I'm being sarcastic.

When a company gives you a dongle, yes, THEY are the ones that failed. Not the user. If the world was so ready for this product then they shouldn't have put a dongle in the box. Including it is admitting failure.

I don't agree. Someone has to do it first and move the tech forward. Apple is often the one to do that because they have the largest customer base for a single model phone and they're seen as the market leader. They're including a dongle to help in the transition, but this isn't a case of a company just leaving something out and hoping it will catch on. Apple is saying this is going to be the way more and more devices are going to be very soon, you need to get used to it- in the meantime here is a dongle to help until you get more accessories switched over to the new tech.

 

[OllyW]

A poll shows that 65% of people on this website will buy the buy the Air Pods.

No it doesn't show that. The poll shows that 65% of people who voted in the poll will buy the Air Pods. Big difference.

 

[Phoenixx]

My wife replaced her iPhone 6 with iPhone 7. It's been few weeks now, and as a non-techie person, here's her review: feels and looks the same, but locks up and looses signal a lot more often. She wants her old phone back. This is the first time since iPhone 3 that she doesn't like a new iPhone. I'm pretty sure she's not the only one.

Then yesterday, my 6 year old daughter wanted to listen to PBS Kids. She brings her kid headphones, aaaand fail - we already lost the stupid dongle. Had to use my 6S Plus instead.

Update the OS, buy yourself another dongle or return your phone. Issue solved.

Hate to think what will happen when you encounter a REAL problem.
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How dare Apple lose your dongle

A disgrace I say

If I lose my car keys I'm going to ring audi up and complain

Better yet, go onto a website forum full of people who couldn't care less and complain. That will be guaranteed not to get any result whatsoever, except some attention.

 

[dienwade724]

My wife replaced her iPhone 6 with iPhone 7. It's been few weeks now, and as a non-techie person, here's her review: feels and looks the same, but locks up and looses signal a lot more often. She wants her old phone back. This is the first time since iPhone 3 that she doesn't like a new iPhone. I'm pretty sure she's not the only one.

Then yesterday, my 6 year old daughter wanted to listen to PBS Kids. She brings her kid headphones, aaaand fail - we already lost the stupid dongle. Had to use my 6S Plus instead.

Iphone 7 contrast Iphone 6 in terms of seemingly no advantage.

 

[pixel_junkie]

Apple removed the headphone jack:

• To make room at the bottom of the phone to fit the taptic engine which is required for the new home button which won't break as often as the old one used to
• To add a barometric vent to better get a better reading.
• To give the wireless audio market a swift kick to step up on innovation

and you just call it greed? Yep, I can confirm that you are not tech savvy like you said because you don't know what you're talking about. Furthermore, do you even know what fragmentation means?

Dude, don't come in here listing bullet points like you know for certain. You part of the Apple design team? I don't think so.

That taptic engine/make space explanation makes sense only if you don't ever look at other phones. You mean to tell me that a SAMSUNG S7 can fit a larger screen, a headphone jack, an expansion slot, wireless charging, double the RAM, capacitive buttons on the bottom, notification light and almost double the battery in a similarly sized phone but Apple can't?

Three years in a row you get the same exact form factor and at the end they had to take out a component to improve another, poorly designed one?

Want to give the audio market swift kick? Sweet - now put the necessary audio equipment in the box as part of the package so I can embrace that change easily. That "new tech" is a $150 option for a very good reason!

 

[polbit]

Apple removed the headphone jack:

• To make room at the bottom of the phone to fit the taptic engine which is required for the new home button which won't break as often as the old one used to
• To add a barometric vent to better get a better reading.
• To give the wireless audio market a swift kick to step up on innovation

and you just call it greed? Yep, I can confirm that you are not tech savvy like you said because you don't know what you're talking about. Furthermore, do you even know what fragmentation means?

Lol Insulting someone is always a sign you have nothing to say except regurgitate Apples promo material. The Apple koolaid is good isn't it... since apparently they are the only major phone manufacturer that have packaging issues, and the only fix for it was to remove a universal port that will help them generate incremental revenue from their wireless headsets as well as licensing for wired plug, and of course dongles. Yep, no greed at all!!

In few years, if no other major changes happen, you will now have Apple-only headphones being sold at a good percentage, for both the low-end and audiophile markets. Nope, no fragmentation at all!!
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Apple is not a monopoly in market cell phones. You have other options in this area. Yet in the end you've over looked other viable options and chosen to purchase an iPhone. So this is the fault of the consumer not the manufacturer. This sir is not an iPhone 7 failure as you've stated in your headline. This is whole heartedly in your court and your consumer failure for not responding appropriately to ones need.

Sounds great and all, until you realize that you don't have that much choice. In order to switch to Android, you have to repurchase all the apps, accessories, cables, etc. So no, you can't just pick up another phone - you have to pick up an entire ecosystem, and that costs a lot more, both in terms of time and money.

Of course that's what Apple and Samsung and everyone else are counting on, and the primary reason why proprietary ports, app stores, etc. exist - to lock a revenue stream.

 

[decafjava]

Dude, don't come in here listing bullet points like you know for certain. You part of the Apple design team? I don't think so.

That taptic engine/make space explanation makes sense only if you don't ever look at other phones. You mean to tell me that a SAMSUNG S7 can fit a larger screen, a headphone jack, an expansion slot, wireless charging, double the RAM, capacitive buttons on the bottom, notification light and almost double the battery in a similarly sized phone but Apple can't?

Three years in a row you get the same exact form factor and at the end they had to take out a component to improve another, poorly designed one?

Want to give the audio market swift kick? Sweet - now put the necessary audio equipment in the box as part of the package so I can embrace that change easily. That "new tech" is a $150 option for a very good reason!

Mark my words, Samsung will get read of the headphone jack sooner rather than later followed by most Android models.

 

[5105973]

I feel your pain. I loathe, despise, hate and condemn the removal of the headphone jack.

But as someone who has explored my options and continues to explore them, all while enjoying a second honeymoon with my iPhone SE, I have to declare 2016 a sucky year for smart phones, overall.

I went to the Note7. It was fabulous but sent consumers on a roller coaster of replacements, temporary loaners, more replacements, and finally displacement.

Some of us Note 7 refugees went to the following popular options and here is where things with those choices stand so far:

**Stayed with Samsung and got S7's and S7 Edges. That's worked out okay for most people as far as I can tell, but for me personally, out of four Samsungs that I have used since I went to Note 7, only the original Note 7 was without significant problems. The S7 loaner constantly overheated and once burned my leg and often seemed to turn apps on by itself somehow. My replacement Note 7 overheated like crazy also and hurt my hands when I was recording video on it. My current S7Edge has a bad mic so all my videos have terrible sound and I'm going to need warranty service on it. I think they've got some QC issues and I'm not their only customer who thinks so, but overall the S7's remain popular.

**Preordered Pixel phones: People are loving them but it's now becoming known that there is a lens flare and halo problem. To most of us who are reading about this, it appears to be a hardware issue but Google is aware of it and promising a software workaround.

There are some problems with Bluetooth connectivity to some car audio systems. Google is working on updates for that as well.

Their customer service is slow to get off the ground. My personal experience with it so far has been wretched and that seems to be the consensus of others who have commented on it so far.

**LGV20: New noise about this option is that the camera lens is remarkably vulnerable to shattering. Current customers who moved from Note 7 are now worried they're stuck with another phone with a critical vulnerability. Also past LG flagships were prone to death by bootloop.


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I've currently got two Pixels on preorder. I want to pare it down to just one but because Google's customer service can't answer a simple question I'm leaving it at two for now so I don't lose my preorder VR Goggles freebie. They're not shipping until late November for me. Meanwhile I'm waiting to see how the camera fix works out. The camera is otherwise fabulous but the lens flare issue needs to be addressed very well or I'm not keeping my order.

If the Pixel turns out to be a pain in my tail, back it goes and I'll give the HTC 10 a try. I'm comfortable on Android now enough to give that a whirl. They offer 30 day returns and a great DAC for audio and are pretty well regarded overall. And relatively cheap now. They're past their prime, though.

Meanwhile I'm loving my SE. I'm not a huge fan of iOS 10 on it, but it's still "old reliable" to me. When I talk about the other phones, I'm talking about them as second phones. I have two active lines I use. One for survival, one for play, because I love gadgets.

I wish I could say "Everything is swell over in Android land, come to the dark side. We have headphone jacks." But I can't. There is no perfect option out there. It all comes with caveats and compromises and it's completely Buyer Beware no matter what you choose.

After what I've been through with the Note 7 and Samfreakingsung, I'm going to tell you that if Apple did manage to issue a software fix for the connectivity issues so that your wife can get a decent cellular service, get the bleeping dongles and keep on trucking.

Let the kid have the 6SPlus to use over wifi. And watch out for kids and their handling of any objects with lithium ion batteries!

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As for people saying mean things about kids with tech, well not all kids are the same temperament and some of us can teach our kids to be good with tech...better than most teens and adults, in fact.

 

[decafjava]

Actually no desperation needed. Its remarkably easy to come up with a reason the 7 doesnt measure up. Thats why its the first step down for iphone year over year. For once the previous model remains the worlds best iphone with the 7 coming in slightly behind.

How can a slower phone with lesser battery and no OIC for the smaller version be better?