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Another New iPad Surfaces in Hong Kong with Sample Video and Graphics Benchmarks

HiRez said:
The benchmarking is interesting, but I assume it's using the same test on both machines? What I'd like to see is how the new iPad's performance with a 2048x1536 buffer compares to the iPad 2's performance with a 1024x768 buffer. Everyone knows the the iPad has a faster GPU, the real test will be is it enough faster to make up for having to drive 4X as many pixels? I realize this will be someone dependent on the application, for example I imagine 3D OpenGL games will have a different profile than iPhoto or whatever.
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The good thing is that if they can't pull off 30-60fps @ 2048x1536 they can always just run in 1024x768 mode and crank up the effects. (Kinda the same way some of the games for PS3 use 720p instead of 1080p.) Regardless, games will still look better than those on the iPad 2.
 
HiRez said:
The benchmarking is interesting, but I assume it's using the same test on both machines? What I'd like to see is how the new iPad's performance with a 2048x1536 buffer compares to the iPad 2's performance with a 1024x768 buffer. Everyone knows the the iPad has a faster GPU, the real test will be is it enough faster to make up for having to drive 4X as many pixels? I realize this will be someone dependent on the application, for example I imagine 3D OpenGL games will have a different profile than iPhoto or whatever.
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Both tests are off-screen 720p so good for comparision. I am Also interested in full resolution performance...
 
So for the graphics tests are they benchmarking them both at 1024x768 resolution?

Or is the increase with iPad 2 at normal res and the iPad 3 at retina? If so then that is quite impressive.
 
aerok said:
I'm actually a bit disapointed, it is true that the new display is amazing and the improvement of the camera is noteworthy but the number one reason I got rid of my ipad 2 was due to its weight and the new ipad is actually heavier. I'll wait until the smaller ipad comes out.
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Perhaps you need to go to the gym?:D
 
SiskoKid said:
Does anyone know how the new iPad will handle older iPad apps?

Meaning are they gonna be blown up to to size or will they be a smaller box in the middle of the screen like when you use an iPhone app on the iPad?

Or does everything that's not updated just look like ass mold?

Just curious if that's been discussed. Either way, my new iPad arrives Friday :D
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Wouldn't an older iPad app look exactly the same on the new iPad versus an older model? (actually asking, not being cocky). The screens are the same size, but the new iPad has four pixels in the exact same space where one pixel took previously. So if it's an older app those four pixels would be doing the same thing as the original one pixel.

I know I'm dumbing it down, but what else would they do?
 
Will do good said:
Perhaps you need to go to the gym?:D
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linsam said:
You cann:eek:t be serious! LOL

So happy that Friday is almost here! :apple:
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Yes I can, maybe you guys will know understand if you already had half of your veins ripped our of arms like I did.

We each have different needs and preferences, get over it. Apple makes great products, but like any other companies, not all products can appeal to everyone, including me.
 
aerok said:
I'm actually a bit disapointed, it is true that the new display is amazing and the improvement of the camera is noteworthy but the number one reason I got rid of my ipad 2 was due to its weight and the new ipad is actually heavier. I'll wait until the smaller ipad comes out.
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Time to hit the gym.
 
In that video, you can clearly see the difference, I took a screenshot from the video and uploaded it for you to see. Look at the "Messages" icon....the quality on the Retina display really does show:

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aerok said:
Yes I can, maybe you guys will know understand if you already had half of your veins ripped our of arms like I did.

We each have different needs and preferences, get over it. Apple makes great products, but like any other companies, not all products can appeal to everyone, including me.
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I'd like to see a tablet with that Senseg texture technology. A lot of people - mainly a blind person - would be benefited. I imagine an app which could record surrounding images and textures and then transmit that to the screen. So a blind person (or even a non-blind one in a night situation) could see through the tact. Braille support also would be a piece of cake to implement. Websites would simply jump out of the screen. I think this is true innovation.
 
brdeveloper said:
I'd like to see a tablet with that Senseg texture technology. A lot of people - mainly a blind person - would be benefited. I imagine an app which could record surrounding images and textures and then transmit that to the screen. So a blind person (or even a non-blind one in a night situation) could see through the tact. Braille support also would be a piece of cake to implement. Websites would simply jump out of the screen. I think this is true innovation.
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I'd like to see this too but I want to see it when the tech is ready. Unfortunately, it looks like it is not quite ready. It has the power to really be powerful for the blind. in time i suppose.
 
You can't base a quality comparison to blu-ray on a simple, relatively static, image. This can't even come close to blu-ray the first time you have a dynamic scene, like thousands of birds crossing the screen, heavy and rapid visual effects, or a screen full of tall grass blowing on a windy day. That is when the massively compressed files fall apart in these files that are frequently 1/10 the size of their blu-ray equivalent. Just because the image is 1080p does not make it blu-ray. I can fill my monitor with 2 copies of the same image as well. One a 2MB heavily compressed file and one a 10MB version. No contest to see the difference.

Watch some dynamic scenes from streaming versus blu-ray, and anyone can see the difference within seconds, even at a distance.
 
Hong Kong's tabloid papers should start investigating exactly how this new iPad intended for the US market end up in Hong Kong before it is for sale in the US. A crime has definitely occurred somewhere.
 
this is like comparing Mcdonald's to Burger king - ipad 2 camera was trash, so this one is less trash.

And great now people can waste more time on video games - and people still argue that this thing is not a toy for kids.

iOS - the dumbing down of Apple continues... :rolleyes:
 
jaison13 said:
i'm getting mine on the 16th according to tracking. my only complaint, and certainly not a deal breaker, is storage capacity. with the increased size in apps the iPad 3 will hold less. i wish i could add a memory card or they bumped it to 128gb. but i'll live. i just hate when i remove something then re-add it i lose data. especially in games.
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I've ordered my first iPad (I always wait until 3rd gen goods) and this genuinely worries my capacity choice. They've already cited the increases in app size for the official Apple apps — just three iLife apps are now over a gig. Hopefully 3rd party devs will come up with space saving measures.

I kind of wish Apple had the same app size restriction as they used to have on the iPhone for downloads over 3G; it challenged devs to slimline their apps which helped speed and performance too. I've generally noticed inflated app sizes for iPad apps due to it primarily being a wifi device. Hope I don't regret the 32GB!
 
WardC said:
I really wish they had done a comparison of the Mobile Internet load times comparing the 3G iPad vs. the 4G on the new iPad. I imagine that if you are in good range of a 4G LTE tower, the internet speeds on this new iPad should be incredible....this is really faster than a cable modem? I have a hard time believing that the iPad will be able to load data at over 2 megabytes per second but that would be incredible.

As it is, the 3G on my original iPad (2009 model) is pretty slow, so that is why I was wondering how the speed is on the new 4G LTE modem on the new iPad.
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This will have to wait until someone in the US gets their hands on the new iPad. Since this video is from Hong Kong, they wouldn't be able to to test the 4G capability there. I'm sure the reviews that are supposed to be coming tomorrow (Mossberg@allthingsd etc.) will have extensive tests on the 4G speed.
 
Will do good said:
Perhaps you need to go to the gym?:D
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Well, in the QPs defense, when you’re looking to do some relaxing reading/surfing/etc., sometimes the iPad weight is a touch on the heavy side (at least the 1st gen), if you’re holding out at arms length without any support for a couple of hours.

FWIW, I train/workout 6 days a week :)
 
WardC said:
In that video, you can clearly see the difference, I took a screenshot from the video and uploaded it for you to see. Look at the "Messages" icon....the quality on the Retina display really does show:

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Looks more like the other iPad wasn't in focus.. would have been beter to just take a pic separately and compare side to side..
 
42 Megabits does seem very nice....that would actually be fast enough to stream GREAT quality video over 4G Wireless.

Currently over 3G I can't even stream YouTube video, really, it's only really useful for light web browsing and e-mail over 3G, the 3G connection is really too slow to download apps to the iPad.

This is why I am really looking forward to 4G LTE -- Web Browsing will be lightning fast, Music and Video streaming, video downloads, etc will now be possible. Even FaceTime and video conferencing will now be possible. The increased mobile broadband speeds will open up a whole bunch of new possibilities that are just not possible on 3G.
 
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