Another Report Says Second-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Will Support Apple Pencil

[FFR]

Why? Doing so adds nothing to the discussion.
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Was it the primary input mechanism for the Note?

Your premise that Apple offered a larger screen iPhone solely because of android and Samsung deserves a sarcastic remark.

 

[pl1984]

Your premise that Apple offered a larger screen iPhone solely because of android and Samsung deserves a sarcastic remark.

Perhaps it would if it were my premise. Regardless it adds nothing of value to the discussion.

 

[rafark]

That's a silly argument, and very (uncharacteristically) smug for a MacRumors article. As mentioned by many others, Jobs was talking about products designed to use stylus as the only vehicle for touch input.

A little less editorializing, Joe. That's not what we come to MacRumors for.

I actually liked that part of the article, whether you agree or not, it is imposible to think of an iPhone stylus without remembering that part of the keynote. "A stylus, we're going to use a stylus! ...no"

 

[borntrouble]

Why? Doing so adds nothing to the discussion.
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Was it the primary input mechanism for the Note?

I was referring to all the people who quoted Steve Jobs back then ("Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em you put 'em away you lose 'em - yuck").
This was said in a time shortly after Apple decided to engineer the 1st gen iPhone with a capacitive display capable of being used with your fingers - instead of a stylus. In a time when devices with stylus-only input mechanism were all over the market by the way.
All I wanted to say: This is a whole new situation nowadays. Give people the stylus support and everything's good, because nobody really loses anything. Except your wallet.

 

[djas]

First post.

This is good news. Imagine going from my 12.9 Pro to the new iPhone seamlessly with the Pencil.

 

[pl1984]

I was referring to all the people who quoted Steve Jobs back then ("Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em you put 'em away you lose 'em - yuck").
This was said in a time shortly after Apple decided to engineer the 1st gen iPhone with a capacitive display capable of being used with your fingers - instead of a stylus. In a time when devices with stylus only input mechanism were all over the market by the way.
All I wanted to say: This is a whole new situation nowadays. Give people the stylus support and everything's good as nobody really loses. Except your wallet.

I think it was very clear Jobs was against a stylus regardless of whether it was the primary input method (Apple fanboy revisionism) or as any input method (Jobs idea).

 

[DNichter]

That's exactly what the Apple fanboys were saying about large screen phones right up until the time Apple started to offer them. Then it was the best thing since sliced bread to them.

I can only speak for myself, but no I don’t consider a bigger screen innovation. That would be like saying a 55 inch TV is more innovative than a 40 inch TV. It’s amateur. I don’t sit here worrying about every single feature or component because it’s not critical to the overall experience of the iOS platform. I look at things such as performance, security, privacy, apps, ecosystem, and support. Features are fleeting. Android people live on features. That’s what brings all of you here. To justify your “fully featured” purchase.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think it was very clear Jobs was against a stylus regardless of whether it was the primary input method (Apple fanboy revisionism) or as any input method (Jobs idea).

Does it really matter if he was or he wasn’t. He didn’t like the idea of small tablets or large phones yet we have those from Apple.

 

[borntrouble]

I think it was very clear Jobs was against a stylus regardless of whether it was the primary input method (Apple fanboy revisionism) or as any input method (Jobs idea).

Couldn't disagree more with your comment, but go on pegging me as an Apple fanboy.

 

[pl1984]

I can only speak for myself, but no I don’t consider a bigger screen innovation. That would be like saying a 55 inch TV is more innovative than a 40 inch TV. It’s amateur. I don’t sit here worrying about every single feature or component because it’s not critical to the overall experience of the iOS platform. I look at things such as performance, security, privacy, apps, ecosystem, and support. Features are fleeting. Android people live on features. That’s what brings all of you here. To justify your “fully featured” purchase.

OK, you're not the person being referenced.
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Couldn't disagree more with your comment, but go on pegging me as an Apple fanboy.

Please point me to where Jobs said anything to that effect.

 

[tgara]

I wonder how you are even going to store it, since I doubt Apple will waste precious space for a pen slot that not everyone might use.

I agree. But couldn't you ask the same question concerning the iPad Pro as well?

Seems to me that just because you cannot store the stylus inside the device doesn't mean a stylus cannot be implemented or be useful. My guess is that, if Pencil support comes in the next iPhone, clever case manufacturers will find a way to keep the pencil at hand.

 

[mi7chy]

“Who wants a stylus?”

Let's settle this once and for all. Steve Jobs was referring to the failed Apple Newton which he associated with John Sculley's reign of Apple.

Fast forward to 2:23

 

[tgara]

First post.

This is good news. Imagine going from my 12.9 Pro to the new iPhone seamlessly with the Pencil.

Actually, I was thinking about going the other way: from the phone to the iPad. A call comes in from a client on your iPhone; you jot down a few notes in Apple Notes using the pencil, then after the call ends, switch to the iPad, open the note you created on the phone and flesh out the details, create action items, etc. Sounds very useful to me.

 

[FFR]

Let's settle this once and for all. Steve Jobs was referring to the failed Apple Newton which he associated with John Sculley's reign of Apple.

Fast forward to 2:23

Doesn’t say anything about the Newton, except “ you know what happened”

 

[djas]

Actually, I was thinking about going the other way: from the phone to the iPad. A call comes in from a client on your iPhone; you jot down a few notes in Apple Notes using the pencil, then after the call ends, switch to the iPad, open the note you created on the phone and flesh out the details, create action items, etc. Sounds very useful to me.

Of course and vice-versa.

 

[Mansu944]

Thanks for the heads up. Appreciate it.

Your probably a pleasure to be around...

 

[mi7chy]

I laughed at the Note because it exploded, not because it had a stylus.

Why would you laugh at lost of lives?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ting-iPad-iPhone-cockpit-claim-relatives.html

 

[tgara]

It isn’t that people think they know Jobs better, it’s simply the notion that the Apple Pencil somehow contradicts what Jobs said in 2007 which is complete nonsense.

When Jobs said who needs a stylus, he was emphasizing the multi-touch capabilities of the iPhone, which was new the at the time, and unlike other devices that utilized a screen with icons you didn’t need to poke a stick at it in order to use it. It’s still true today but it seems some people still don’t get it.

Apple always marketed the Pencil as a drawing, sketching, painting, scribble tool. They never marketed it as a replacement for navigating the phone or as a better way to navigate the phone. Those who persist in taking a position otherwise apparently never bothered to see the context of what Jobs was saying in the 2007 keynote.

I remember when Jobs said those things, and I guess depending on what you thought he meant will color your views of this rumor. But what Jobs said years ago seems is ancient history and really not the point. We are here and now in 2018. The question is, does Pencil support on the iPhone, as an optional input/drawing/navigation/whatever device, make sense for a sizeable portion of users. I think it does.

 

[mi7chy]

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All you need now are an ice cream app and flavored screen protectors.

 

[Dave.UK]

Nope, not difficult at all. Also not what we are discussing. Samsung, copying Apple again, always late to the party.

This has to be one of the craziest comments i've ever seen on Macrumors, and that's say something!

Let's just get this straight. You believe the Note is a copy of the Newton and that Apple invented the stylus?

 

[djas]

I think it's good. I'm on my iPhone X more than on my 12.9 Pro. The ability to take handwritten notes when not having my iPad with me is an advantage. My husband do that with his Note 5. When we are out together, he just need to carry his Note while I have to bring my iPhone and iPad.

So the iPhone supporting Pencil will let me do just that. Win-win.

 

[CoachRocks]

Will it fit in?

That's what she said?

 

[DNichter]

This has to be one of the craziest comments i've ever seen on Macrumors, and that's say something!

Let's just get this straight. You believe the Note is a copy of the Newton and that Apple invented the stylus?

No. The poster said that an Etch a Sketch from the 60's invented the stylus prior to Apple, saying that Apple was copying off of that. The whole comment was ridiculous, so I followed up with another ridiculous comment. You could make the argument that the Note is a copy of the Newton, but no I am not saying that.

 

[DaRev]

This has to be one of the craziest comments i've ever seen on Macrumors, and that's say something!

Let's just get this straight. You believe the Note is a copy of the Newton and that Apple invented the stylus?

Think you are taking comments out of context, it is illustrating how Samsung did not invent the Stylus, it is a derivative product of styluses found on the Newton, General Magic Message Pad, and Palms. Yes, Apple was one of the earliest to market the stylus to consumers and implement it on a device you could actually hold and use.

 

[itsmilo]

I still remember my friends making fun of me and my iPhone 3G cuz I had to use it without a stylus. Those were the days lol