I hope you’re not suggesting those who pay more for something or buy a particular product have more right to have an opinion on its design? I’m sure that wasn’t your intention but it read a bit like that.
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There are three posters who are all active in this thread who do this regularly. They are source of great amusement.
There are three posters who are all active in this thread who do this regularly. They are source of great amusement.
Glad to have been of service.
The op said I was “insecure”, but sounds like there is much cognitive dissonance at play. It’s a design element, like it or hate it. Buy or don’t buy. Completely subjective.
I’ve always been of the opinion I don’t think the notch is particularly good design, but it’s a minor enough detail that wouldn’t put me off buying the phone itself. The price is more of a turn off for me. That’s the good thing about aesthetics though as absolutely nothing on the planet is going to have the same appeal to everybody purely on a looks basis.
I couldn’t agree more that appeal is a personal matter. The #1 industrial designer on the planet had a hand in the design on that phone. Don’t come in here and tell me it’s a fact that design is bad because you claim to have some graphic design experience and then throw around some ad-Homs when we don’t agree.
I don’t think it’s matters too much on a persons profession when it comes to aesthetics per se. I’m an industrial designer and often have differences of opinion with my colleagues and I’d imagine it’s no different at Apple when in engineering meetings with a dozen or so engineers. If the head of design of any company refuses to take any feedback on board, then they are in the wrong job.
Apple make beautiful products though and rarely do they release something that looks awful. The notch is just one of those things that not everybody loves but that’s not a bad thing IMO. The choice is available for iPhone users not to necessarily buy the X though which is why devices like the iPhones 7 and 8 also sell well.
If he had any real experience I’m sure he would have posted it, instead of the ad-hom attacks.
But I agree with you, and looking at iPhone X sales a lot of others do too.
Yup straight to $1 trillion dollar market cap.
I guess we have different definitions for doom and failure.
Don’t know why it matters so much to them most aren’t even Apple users.
Yeah the note 7 exploding cost the Company anywhere from 10 billion dollars and 17 billion and the sale of three companies.
“Note 7 fiasco could burn a $17 billion hole in Samsung accounts”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-samsung-elec-smartphones-costs-idUSKCN12B0FX
Samsung takes $10 billion hit to end Galaxy Note 7 fiasco
https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/11/technology/samsung-galaxy-note-7-what-next/index.html
Sure. Forbes is a lousy source.
Galaxy S8 Production May Be 'Aborted' If Samsung Can't Figure Out Cause Of Note 7 Fires
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin...amsung-cant-figure-out-cause-of-note-7-fires/
Same article I posted back then.
How is the note 9 doing again?
You wouldn’t be the only one waiting....
Forget the Galaxy Note 10, Samsung should have just canceled the Galaxy Note 9
https://www.phonearena.com/news/samsung-should-have-canceled-galaxy-note-9-opinion_id107427
Yes and it was his opinion, a phone arena writer, a web site dedicated to android phones, used to be Symbian before that.
“Why can’t Samsung just admit this Galaxy Note 9 is simply a Galaxy S9+ with an S Pen and go back to the drawing board? Will the Galaxy S10 finally adopt in-display fingerprint recognition technology and perhaps even 3D facial scanning? Then let’s wait for that and not waste everyone’s time”
He doesn’t look to be anti Samsung.
He just doesn’t think it’s worth it.
To him the note 9 is basically a s9 with a stylus.
Don’t think that makes him bias. Its pretty much is what it is. It’s almost identical to last years note 8 design but with slightly chunkier bezels.
When is your note 9 arriving?
You clearly don't read posts properly. Thinking I'm attacking your precious iPhone x design when my point was completely unrelated. Also I've said it a few times of all the phones with a notch at least Apple are using it to house a great biometric system. My point was design is not completely subjective, there are rules to functional design.
That’s the argument we are attacking, not so much that we are rushing out in blind defense of Apple.
You made a statement that both of us disagree with, and we disagreed. That’s all there is to it. If you disagree with us disagreeing with you, then by all means post the evidence that you told us to google up ourselves because you felt it was evidently not worth your time to post.
Because I tried looking up “rules of functional design” and couldn’t find anything concrete or definitive beyond some forum discussions (which again yielded nothing conclusive, and some of the arguments put forth even support our stance of good design being more subjective than objective), leading me to believe that what you hold dear as “rules” are merely guidelines that aren’t expected to be faithfully adhered to 100%.
What I put in bold is exactly right, good design is 100 percent more subjective then objective , BUT there are parts of design that are objective. Call them guidelines, call them rules, call them what you like. It seems we actually agree on this. To bad the initial replies to my post were defensive ones about the notch, at this point in time Apple have made a compromise and since it houses FaceId its probably the best option available. However once Apple figure out how to get rid of that notch it will be gone and the phone will look better for it.