We'll see what happens in real life with the pop-up camera.
As you don't like the iphone x for various reasons, I see this as a worst case compromise. However, I'm glad you got a handle on the life expectancy of this.
I'll take the notch any day.
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As you don't like the iphone x for various reasons, I see this as a worst case compromise. However, I'm glad you got a handle on the life expectancy of this.
I'll take the notch any day.
I get that you like whatever **** apple throw at you. If you like notch then that is good for you. Although I feel sad for all brainwashed people.
Right. I like the notch. Other people do also. But I like your presumption about the brainwashed masses. Makes me wonder who are really the “brainwashed” masses. Enough Apple customers have made Apple a 1T company. So all those people can’t be as you suggest.
leave this one alone, thou thinkith he is Moses leading his people back to the holy land of open source
Like the spen that broke the phone when inserted incorrectly. The pop up will jam or otherwise malfunction. It’s a bad design decision waiting to break.
Using Android folks logic, that type of engineering is okay because the phone costs less than an iPhone X with less features.
Not worried about vivo or oppo. Samsung
I don’t find the s-pen breaking if you insert it the wrong way any different than how the pins of a CPU break if you try to insert it the wrong way.
Maybe we should pull out the pitchforks for Intel and AMD who haven’t corrected this design flaw for decades now. How dare the CPU break if I try to insert it the wrong way? While handling $1000 phones people need to pay attention to what they are doing.
Oppo and Vigo don’t even make high end phones.
You don’t have a choice but to like the notch. Apple made the choice for you. Very similar to Samsung fans who have to accept Touchwiz on their phones.
I appreciate them for trying to move the design on and going virtually bezeless but I’d prefer a notch to a pop up camera for my personal device. They do deserve some credit for the effort though.
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There isn’t much choice on android now either. It’s either a notch or Samsung.
All the companies who aren’t Samsung are Chinese who have been copying Apple for decades now. LG and HTC are dead in the water. Sony still insists on following their own dated bezel design which is half a decade old at this point. On Android there are only 2 flagships, Samsung and Google. The latter is obsessed with Apple. So of course it’s only Samsung at this point.
There is always a choice. Vanilla or some chocolate flavor, pick one.
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But I can link to forums that discuss a broken phone due to the spen. It was all too easy to insert the wrong way.
Click on his post history. Literally all he does is praise Samsung and bash Apple. That's literally all he does. I stand by my post.
I for the most part completely agree with you, however if ANY iPhone X user was given the option of the EXACT same phone with no notch i can tell you right now the overwhelming majority would pick it no matter how "great" they say the notch looks. The end game is to not have a notch and i'm sure anyone will agree with that statement. The reality is iPhone X users are defending the compromise Apple had to make at this point of time. Design is largely subjective but there are still rules to functional design which are very much objective.
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The reality is a bigger chin or forehead vs a notch which means a bigger phone without the notch.
What users who like notch are defending is the same real estate in a smaller overall package. And having a distinctive design.
And no, nothing about design is objective. You don’t like the notch, you’re entitled to that, but knitting about design is set in stone.
I hope you aren’t saying that people who like the notch are brainwashed?
I personally like it. I don’t notice it at all in everyday use (90 percent of the time that was just status bar before, anyway), and it help differentiate up from down (preventing the horror that is the Apple TV remote). It also gives the device some character - once every manufacturer goes full screen corner to corner without notches, every device will look identical. Finally, it looks space-age - screens with notches are very futuristic if you come where I come from.
With over 20 years of experience working in the Graphics arts industry working closely with industrial designers you could not be more wrong with your statement.
Actually you are still incorrect. Design and beauty is all subjective. No one person has the say on what is good design or not or what looks good or not.
If you want to have an opinion on that design all fine and dandy. But there is more than one opinion in this world.
There are still rules to functional design. Look it up. I'm not going to educate you on the subject.
I'm not going to educate you either on the meaning of subjective. It seems the notch performs a very functional "function". It reduces the size of the phone and mitigates the chin and forehead. Seems like good functional design to your point. The person that did that design is not an anonymous internet poster espousing some theoretical views.
Where exactly did I say the notch was not functional? I just corrected your rediculous statement that design is completely subjective. Your insecurities over the notch are quite apparent in your posts.
You don’t have to educate us on anything.
Poke fun at us, laugh at us, mock us all you wish. We have voted with our wallets, and decided what makes for “good design” for us. This alone gives us more right on decide on what functional design is for us.
These so-called rules. Your years of experience. They all mean nothing to us. We will buy what we like, and not buy what we don’t like, regardless of what everyone else thinks.
And enough people did just that to make Apple as insanely successful as it is today.
Who was talking to you? Triggered much? All I did was correct the other posters false statement about design being completly subjective , i was not even talking about the iPhone yet just like the other poster you have gotten completely defensive.You don’t have to educate us on anything.
Poke fun at us, laugh at us, mock us all you wish. We have voted with our wallets, and decided what makes for “good design” for us. This alone gives us more right on decide on what functional design is for us.
These so-called rules. Your years of experience. They all mean nothing to us. We will buy what we like, and not buy what we don’t like, regardless of what everyone else thinks.
And enough people did just that to make Apple as insanely successful as it is today.
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I voted with my wallet as you did. Throwing some ad-Homs around doesn’t make your “argument” valid. Subjective is subjective and that doesn’t change because someone says that’s not the case. But this is way off the premise of the thread at this point in time.
It always amuses me when someone tries to insinuate that another person is wrong for liking something that they do, just because.
My answer to that is and always will be the same - you buy what you like, I buy what I like, and we will let the sales figures speak for themselves.