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Any 4S owners still on the fence about stepping up to the 5S?
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Yep, I'm a definite upgrade from 4S to the 5C. I'd rather have 64GB but I can live with 32 and keep the excess movies or whatever on my iPod touch 5th gen. The 5C gives me a leg up on performance from the 4S. Right now I don't need the leap to 64-bit A7 chip or the fingerprint sensor, next time around (on my other line's upgrade) is soon enough for that.
I don't think the 5S lacks innovation at all (that A7 is a marvel) but I don't think my needs justify springing $400 for it this time around, and I would not get it except at the 64GB size. Half that price for the 5C at 32GB gives me half the storage but plenty of step-up from the 4S. So it's 5C for me and I'm not buying it resentfully.
Love those funky 5C colors. Tired of the metal and glass thing for awhile I guess. If I miss that look, I'll fire up the MBA or MBP...
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Any 4S owners still on the fence about stepping up to the 5S?
It's definitely tempting to upgrade because the 5s is the best phone Apple has ever made by far. But I can't get LTE where I am yet and probably won't for at least another year. The 4S still feels very snappy for everything I use it for so I don't need a faster processor. Apple hasn't bumped the RAM this year which will hurt when they do it next year. And I'm still happy with the 4S camera with the exception of low light photos and I don't take many of those.
Bottom line the first few months will be tough resisting the temptation to upgrade as people show off the capabilities of the new device. But once I get through those months, and the 6 rumours start building, I know I'll be glad I did resist.
It's definitely tempting to upgrade because the 5s is the best phone Apple has ever made by far. But I can't get LTE where I am yet and probably won't for at least another year. The 4S still feels very snappy for everything I use it for so I don't need a faster processor. Apple hasn't bumped the RAM this year which will hurt when they do it next year. And I'm still happy with the 4S camera with the exception of low light photos and I don't take many of those.
Bottom line the first few months will be tough resisting the temptation to upgrade as people show off the capabilities of the new device. But once I get through those months, and the 6 rumours start building, I know I'll be glad I did resist.
Not on the fence.
I'm sticking with my 4S this time around. Don't think I'll be using any of the new features
I'm sticking with my 4S this time around. Don't think I'll be using any of the new features
From what I've read, if I sync the HQ songs (and whatever else) that have been run through match already before turning on match on the phone, they won't be deleted (though the prompts may imply they are, they actually arent), so I can carry the lossless around with me. You're right though, the matched lossless version isn't stored in the cloud.
I'm a 4S owner and my plan was to get a 5S however if I wasn't impressed I was gonna get the 5C off contract.
Problem, I need a water proof case. I'm outside rain or shine everyday for work or recreation. The lifeproof case on my 4S has spoiled me. From reading blogs it doesn't appear there is a good way to waterproof a 5S due to the fingerprint scanner. I might get lucky and the dimensions of the 5S and 5 are identical an I can just not use the fingerprint scanner.
Anyway until then the 5S is out.
So the 5C....just too expensive. I'd feel like a tool buying last years phone that is made cheaper and sold for what the aluminum 5 should cost if it wasn't discontinued.
So the 5C is out.
So I'm gonna stick with my 4S for a while and I guess look into the competition. I really need LTE because I'm on Verizon. eBay options are out because my employer reimburses me for the purchase if its from Verizon.
That shows how much I don't like the idea of the 5C. It's literally free for me and I won't get it due to the principle of it. I wouldn't mind using my own money if it was 300-350 off contract.
Problem, I need a water proof case. I'm outside rain or shine everyday for work or recreation. The lifeproof case on my 4S has spoiled me. From reading blogs it doesn't appear there is a good way to waterproof a 5S due to the fingerprint scanner. I might get lucky and the dimensions of the 5S and 5 are identical an I can just not use the fingerprint scanner.
Anyway until then the 5S is out.
So the 5C....just too expensive. I'd feel like a tool buying last years phone that is made cheaper and sold for what the aluminum 5 should cost if it wasn't discontinued.
So the 5C is out.
So I'm gonna stick with my 4S for a while and I guess look into the competition. I really need LTE because I'm on Verizon. eBay options are out because my employer reimburses me for the purchase if its from Verizon.
That shows how much I don't like the idea of the 5C. It's literally free for me and I won't get it due to the principle of it. I wouldn't mind using my own money if it was 300-350 off contract.
Not much discussion yet on the M7 coprocessor. I did find this interesting article on 9 to 5 Mac:
http://9to5mac.com/2013/09/12/iphon...apple-develops-indoor-mapping-public-transit/
I think the M7 is much more than it seems on the surface and Apple has big plans for it. How much do you want to bet that any iWatch like device they release will require you to have an iPhone with M7 (i.e. a 5S) in order utilize all the features they're planning? I've got a strong feeling the iWatch will be useful, but not nearly as compelling if you have a 5/5C or older.
http://9to5mac.com/2013/09/12/iphon...apple-develops-indoor-mapping-public-transit/
I think the M7 is much more than it seems on the surface and Apple has big plans for it. How much do you want to bet that any iWatch like device they release will require you to have an iPhone with M7 (i.e. a 5S) in order utilize all the features they're planning? I've got a strong feeling the iWatch will be useful, but not nearly as compelling if you have a 5/5C or older.
I hate comments like the above. Choices are individual in nature. Contending that a particular course of action is "smartest" implies that others are "dumber," and that's blatantly not true.
I'm on the "S" cycle and I'll get the 5S, assuming I don't go Android (which, frankly, I have been considering for some time). The reasons are severalfold:
• Principle: A big part of that monthly cell bill is subsidization of your device. When you're voluntarily bypassing an upgrade, you're essentially giving your carrier free money. That bothers me.
• Cost: Given resale values, going from a base 4S to a 5S is essentially costless. (This falls apart when talking about larger capacities, which is the boat the OP is in.) Moreover, that trend has continued for some time, meaning I'll likely be able to rinse and repeat in 2 years with the 6S. I'm a fan of that.
• I do see the 5S as a worthy upgrade. Game-changing? Absolutely not. But it satisfies the #1 gripe I have with my 4S and that I had with my 3GS (speed).
• I see the upgrades as generally linear. Non-S models introduce form factor changes, while S models improve performance. I don't think of non-S models as necessarily being substantially "larger" upgrades in and of themselves, although I freely admit that I probably would have preferred to be on a non-S cycle. That said, the difference isn't nearly big enough for me to pursue one of the alternative courses of action to get me onto a non-S cycle, in light of the considerations I raise above.
You'll pay $200 + tax + possibly an upgrade fee for a 5s...thats about $240-250 out the door.
You can get a iPhone 5 for about $100 bucks more on eBay/Craigslist and save your eligibility for a iP6...its a smarter choice, given the subtle difference of the S.
Since the fingerprint scanner is capacitive, it should work with any waterproof case that has allowed you to use the touch screen.
Still undecided if I'll get the 5S, I'm due for an upgrade, but I kind of want to wait for the 6.
My roommate just sold his Razr Maxx in anticipation of the 5S, so I'm going to wait until he gets it, take a good look at it, and then make my decision.
I know once I get iOS7 on my 4S it will feel like a different device, so that might make me want to keep it for another year.
My roommate just sold his Razr Maxx in anticipation of the 5S, so I'm going to wait until he gets it, take a good look at it, and then make my decision.
I know once I get iOS7 on my 4S it will feel like a different device, so that might make me want to keep it for another year.
Your math and logic are flawed. I can sell my 4S today for the same amount on Craigslist. Thus, the transaction is costless today. For the same reasons, it is also costless in two years.
Your scenario incurs a cost of $100 today and a cost of $250 one year from today, and begins a cycle of "costless" transactions that also have two year windows. Thus, putting aside things like discount rates, your version is a trade of $100 for an inferior phone today (the iPhone 5) and a superior phone in one year (the iPhone 6).
Your contention that your plan is a "smarter" choice is entirely premised on your belief that the differences in the iPhone 5S are "subtle" (which is an assumption that not everyone shares, and one on which I disagree with you), and on the assumption that the iPhone 6 (about which there is precisely squat in terms of substantiated rumors) will have something you want.
As an addendum, your plan is particularly problematic for users who don't like to use their iPhones without AppleCare. Most Craigslist phones won't come with it, and if they do, it's at a premium. So your plan exposes people to a year of risk. For some people, that's no big deal. For others, it is.
Just because you like your plan does not make it "smarter." Build a little spreadsheet model that games this out over the long run if you're confused by the math. It's quite straightforward to do so.
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I have an iPhone on a fully paid corporate premier plan (ATT) while my wife has an iPhone alone on a AT&T shared mobile plan. My work gives a discount, but ATT was only applying it to the DATA portion of my wife's bill (2gb). So it used to only go against a $20-30 amount. After calling them up, they noted my discount would apply against the $70 data bucket and go up to 4gb. Saved me about 20/month in total, plus free hotspot, plus now Facetime over 3g for her. She's pretty happy.
I'm going to push myself off the "S" cycle by buying the plastic iPhone off contract and hoping the "6" does not bend like the 5 does.
Fingerprint & gaming are not things I need/do on a iPhone.
I really have no issues with my 4S, but its time to move it.
Fingerprint & gaming are not things I need/do on a iPhone.
I really have no issues with my 4S, but its time to move it.
That is exactly how I feel. I do not need the 5s features. I don't feel the need to spend the extra money. And the colors really just have me wanting it. The 5s is nice but I am just not all that interested in it. I'd rather get the 5c and then get the iPad in October. However, everyone on the internet complaining about the 5c has me apprehensive. So it is nice to see another person with the same thoughts.
"A bit uninspiring?" What do you expect it do do? It's a phone camera. For a phone camera, it's pretty amazing. Do you expect it to rival or surpass an SLR?
I don't understand why someone would be due for a carrier 'upgrade' and not get the newest iPhone or Galaxy. I originally got an Evo running android and 2 years later got lucky & sold it on Craigs List for $200. Walked over to my carrier store and got the brand new iPhone 4s with my upgrade and paid the upgrade cost of $45.
The iPhone & Samsung Galaxy are the only 2 phones that hold their resale value well. I sold my 2 year old iPhone 4s this week for $250 and plan on walking into my carrier in the next 2 weeks and use that money to 'upgrade' to the iPhone 5s at now 'new' cost to me. I was able to sell a 2 year old iPhone for MORE than what I bought, granted it was on contract.
I don't understand why someone would not do this? If I were to hold out and wait another year for the iPhone 6 your iPhone 4s would be 1 more year older and you'd probably only get $100-150 on CraigsList. You'd be losing out on $50-100 because you decided to wait.
The iPhone & Samsung Galaxy are the only 2 phones that hold their resale value well. I sold my 2 year old iPhone 4s this week for $250 and plan on walking into my carrier in the next 2 weeks and use that money to 'upgrade' to the iPhone 5s at now 'new' cost to me. I was able to sell a 2 year old iPhone for MORE than what I bought, granted it was on contract.
I don't understand why someone would not do this? If I were to hold out and wait another year for the iPhone 6 your iPhone 4s would be 1 more year older and you'd probably only get $100-150 on CraigsList. You'd be losing out on $50-100 because you decided to wait.
Nope I expect it to rival and surpass a $30 Kmart P&S. I haven't obviously used a 5S yet, so probably shouldn't speculate, but the quality of the camera in the 4S and 5 doesn't even come close to budget P&Ss. With the knowledge, skill, experience and expertise Apple have, they should have been doing better than they have been. They are coasting at the moment, they're being lazy. They shouldn't be competing with a company that makes air conditioners.
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same as where I am...
The more than double processing speed sounds good and the improvement to the camera is nice.
I wish they'd up the storage, but oh well. I am getting a 64 and gonna hope it lasts me a long time.