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bbates123

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This is maybe the first year I can recall hearing no rumors about an update to the flagship phone so close to release date. Did I just miss it? Surely it will have a spec bump, some camera improvements, maybe faster Face ID?...but I can't imagine this is enough to get most current X users to upgrade...there must be some new killer feature we haven't heard about. Have we heard anything through the rumor mill about the new X?
 

Shadowbech

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I'm pretty sure there are some leaks but I think Apple is doubling down on this. We'll jut have to wait and find out till September's Event.
 
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Freakonomics101

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If something official is leaked from anyone, it’s a federal offense. Definitely not worth it.
 

JPack

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Official leaks through iOS 12 beta:
  • 2688 x 1242 resolution
  • Full landscape mode support
  • Dual-SIM
  • Horizontal Face ID
 

eyoungren

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Aug 31, 2011
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...there must be some new killer feature we haven't heard about.
Must be?

First of all, why? Why must there be some new killer feature? It's always possible there is one, but why MUST there be one?

Are you searching for a justification to replace your current phone and without this "killer" feature you don't have a justification?

Sorry…don't get why. What killer feature did the 6s/6s+ have? The 7/7+? 8/8+?

Secondly…it's probably just me but there's never been any must have, killer features on an iPhone for me. It's nice. I like iOS, I like the aesthetics of the iPhone 5 and the SE (and that's why I bought a iPhone 5). But there has never been any feature on these phones that has made me say "I MUST have that killer feature!!!"

Guess I'm just not in your headspace, sorry.
 

eoblaed

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This is maybe the first year I can recall hearing no rumors about an update to the flagship phone so close to release date. Did I just miss it? Surely it will have a spec bump, some camera improvements, maybe faster Face ID?...but I can't imagine this is enough to get most current X users to upgrade...there must be some new killer feature we haven't heard about. Have we heard anything through the rumor mill about the new X?

Any one of these would prompt me to upgrade from my current X to the new one:
  • Plus sized screen
  • spec bump
  • faster FaceID (even though the current FaceID is pretty darned fast)
  • camera improvements
And we're likely going to get all four, potentially others. I'm pumped. :)
 
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Freakonomics101

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The main reason why I upgraded to the 10 from the 7+ is due to the OLED and tons smaller bezels. Everything else I like but wasn’t a killer upgrade.

I believe this year’s iPhones will just receive a minor spec bump. Not all that excited and likely won’t be upgrading as I don’t think I want a Plus size iPhone X. That’s just too big, even for my hands.
 

44267547

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This is maybe the first year I can recall hearing no rumors about an update to the flagship phone so close to release date. Did I just miss it? Surely it will have a spec bump, some camera improvements, maybe faster Face ID?...but I can't imagine this is enough to get most current X users to upgrade...there must be some new killer feature we haven't heard about. Have we heard anything through the rumor mill about the new X?

There hasn’t been any substantial hardware leaks, primarily being we already know what we are going to be seeing for a very similar form factor being iPhones are not prone to being changed every year. It’s likely to be more internal changes with Face ID, upgraded processor/co-processor, Face ID improvements, etc.
 

bbates123

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Must be?

First of all, why? Why must there be some new killer feature? It's always possible there is one, but why MUST there be one?

Are you searching for a justification to replace your current phone and without this "killer" feature you don't have a justification?

Sorry…don't get why. What killer feature did the 6s/6s+ have? The 7/7+? 8/8+?

Secondly…it's probably just me but there's never been any must have, killer features on an iPhone for me. It's nice. I like iOS, I like the aesthetics of the iPhone 5 and the SE (and that's why I bought a iPhone 5). But there has never been any feature on these phones that has made me say "I MUST have that killer feature!!!"

Guess I'm just not in your headspace, sorry.

Maybe that's your opinion.

iPhone 6 to 6s: Added 3D Touch
iPhone 7: Added 2nd lens in Plus
iPhone 8: Added wireless charging

...in addition to the spec bumps and other improvements. Those are major features in my book, maybe you set your bar higher.
 

KOTN91

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This is maybe the first year I can recall hearing no rumors about an update to the flagship phone so close to release date. Did I just miss it? Surely it will have a spec bump, some camera improvements, maybe faster Face ID?...but I can't imagine this is enough to get most current X users to upgrade...there must be some new killer feature we haven't heard about. Have we heard anything through the rumor mill about the new X?

That’s because it’s going to be almost exactly the same as the current iPhone X.

The 6.1 inch “XC” is more interesting in a way, just a shame it’s going to be a silly size
 

craigio85

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This is maybe the first year I can recall hearing no rumors about an update to the flagship phone so close to release date. Did I just miss it? Surely it will have a spec bump, some camera improvements, maybe faster Face ID?...but I can't imagine this is enough to get most current X users to upgrade...there must be some new killer feature we haven't heard about. Have we heard anything through the rumor mill about the new X?
There have been plenty of leaks and speculation, but the focus is on the X Plus and the all new 6.1” model. Nobody’s really all that interested in the 5.8” OLED because it’s likely to be just a minor spec-bump.

It does create the quirk that the two “premium” OLED models will be out of step in that one enters its ‘s’ cycle as one launches new. Unless Apple surprise us by not refreshing the 5.8” OLED and just leaving the existing model on sale, dropping to leave the £1000 price tag tier for the new plus. But i’m pretty sure there’s been at least some details leaked suggesting that isn’t the case.
 

eyoungren

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Aug 31, 2011
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Maybe that's your opinion.

iPhone 6 to 6s: Added 3D Touch
iPhone 7: Added 2nd lens in Plus
iPhone 8: Added wireless charging

...in addition to the spec bumps and other improvements. Those are major features in my book, maybe you set your bar higher.
iPhone 6 to 6s: Added 3D Touch <----- Don't use. Irritating as hell a lot, particularly when trying to move apps.

iPhone 7: Added 2nd lens in Plus <----- I imagine that's great for screen caps, menu boards and product on store shelves, all of which is really what I use my camera for.

iPhone 8: Added wireless charging<----- I sit at a computer all day with a powered hub that has two lightning cables and a 30 pin cable (for my 4GS) plugged into it. There are multiple lightning cables at my desk at home (in the living room) and one by my bedside. I imagine wireless charging is great, but I don't need it.

I think Apple needs to set it's bar higher. Animojis are not features and meeting the bar that everyone else has been at for a while even though you do it better does not make a feature.

And yeah, I know you didn't bring up Animojis but it's a pretty good idea of where Apple is at when it considers that and apps inside iMessage to be 'features'.

Of course you are right. All of this is my opinion, but honestly I haven't seen anything since iOS 6 that I consider to be a 'feature' I must have.
 

craigio85

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That’s because it’s going to be almost exactly the same as the current iPhone X.

The 6.1 inch “XC” is more interesting in a way, just a shame it’s going to be a silly size
Apple clearly think the 6.1” form factor is acceptable to the majority since they appear to be going for the mass market with this one. Personally I think it’s the size the X should have been.

Probably about time the SE got a refresh to cater for those who want the smaller form factor.
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iPhone 8: Added wireless charging<----- I sit at a computer all day with a powered hub that has two lightning cables and a 30 pin cable (for my 4GS) plugged into it. There are multiple lightning cables at my desk at home (in the living room) and one by my bedside. I imagine wireless charging is great, but I don't need it.

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Of course you are right. All of this is my opinion, but honestly I haven't seen anything since iOS 6 that I consider to be a 'feature' I must have

Actually, I find wireless charging to be a gimmick that just isn’t useful enough in its current form. With the glass back, my phone is easily slid out of place (by my nocturnal mischievous cat) on the charging pad meaning you wake up to find you’re still at 45% battery. If using a case it’s even easier to move off the centre and lose the charging power - and this is the same with either of the two pads I’ve tried.

Re: killer features - to be completely fair, I haven’t seen anything of the like from Android flagships either.
 
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44267547

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Actually, I find wireless charging to be a gimmick that just isn’t useful enough in its current form. With the glass back, my phone is easily slid out of place (by my nocturnal mischievous cat) on the charging pad meaning you wake up to find you’re still at 45% battery. If using a case it’s even easier to move off the centre and lose the charging power - and this is the same with either of the two pads I’ve tried.
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I don’t agree that you’re saying wireless charging is a ‘gimmick’, as maybe there is a more of an appropriate term that you just don’t find that technology useful perhaps. Anyways, you’re paying for a convenience factor with wireless charging, that’s really it. But I certainly think it serves it’s purpose just in terms of ease-of-use, but obviously opinions vary.
 

Sackofnickels

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Maybe that's your opinion.

iPhone 6 to 6s: Added 3D Touch
iPhone 7: Added 2nd lens in Plus
iPhone 8: Added wireless charging

...in addition to the spec bumps and other improvements. Those are major features in my book, maybe you set your bar higher.

When I upgraded to the 8 plus there were no "must have" features for me, besides I found very little difference coming from the 7 plus. One feature I did find useful and would look for in a future phone was wireless charging. Very convenient feature. Nothing is a "Must be there" feature for me, but it is nice to have.

I think maybe some believe a new phone has to have a "Must have" feature in order to keep the phones selling.

Apple's strategy of incremental updates to internals will eventually become boring. Like I said the 7 and 8 are almost physically identical. I put my case from my 7 on my 8. Perfect fit.
 
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craigio85

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I don’t agree that you’re saying wireless charging is a ‘gimmick’, as maybe there is a more of an appropriate term that you just don’t find that technology useful perhaps. Anyways, you’re paying for a convenience factor with wireless charging, that’s really it. But I certainly think it serves it’s purpose just in terms of ease-of-use, but obviously opinions vary.
To be fair I think it would work better if I had an 8 as opposed 8 Plus. It’s the size of my device vs the size of the target spot on the pads I’ve got that makes it a bit hit and miss.
 

eyoungren

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Aug 31, 2011
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Re: killer features - to be completely fair, I haven’t seen anything of the like from Android flagships either.
I haven't seen anything from Android I've had to have either. iOS has been the deciding factor for me. Up until a year or so ago that's what's kept me using an iPhone.
 

bigjnyc

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Must be?

First of all, why? Why must there be some new killer feature? It's always possible there is one, but why MUST there be one?

Are you searching for a justification to replace your current phone and without this "killer" feature you don't have a justification?

Sorry…don't get why. What killer feature did the 6s/6s+ have? The 7/7+? 8/8+?

Secondly…it's probably just me but there's never been any must have, killer features on an iPhone for me. It's nice. I like iOS, I like the aesthetics of the iPhone 5 and the SE (and that's why I bought a iPhone 5). But there has never been any feature on these phones that has made me say "I MUST have that killer feature!!!"

Guess I'm just not in your headspace, sorry.

I agree with 99% of this... with the exception of touch ID, I feel like that was Apple's (at the time) "killer feature".... I ran out and got the 5S that year, not having to type in a password every time was pretty great. Then when App developers began implementing it to log in, that was the icing on the cake.

With the exception of that I agree with you because all other "features" have been gimmicks in my opinion... I rarely if ever use siri, never use facetime... iMessage is great as well but that's more of a software feature not tied to a specific phone release.
 
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eyoungren

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I agree with 99% of this... with the exception of touch ID, I feel like that was Apple's (at the time) "killer feature".... I ran out and got the 5S that year, not having to type in a password every time was pretty great. Then when App developers began implementing it to log in, that was the icing on the cake.

With the exception of that I agree with you because all other "features" have been gimmicks in my opinion... I rarely if ever use siri, never use facetime... iMessage is great as well but that's more of a software feature not tied to a specific phone release.
I have to say that Touch ID is a pretty good feature. I don't use it on my primary phone for reasons that have been mentioned more than once in other threads here though. So, it does not rise to the status of a feature that is must have for me. But again, opinion. We all use our phones differently.

But yeah, the rest…a lot of gimmicks or just features I have no use for.
 
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anitak1982

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To me the ipx was a killer feature phone for me. I hated bezels making the screen so small. I guess if your coming from a plus to a 10 the screen would be small but I went from an se and the screen is amazingly perfect. I also cannot see who the new 2018 phones are going to be so amazing that I just have to turn in my ipx to get one. I have already paid so much on this phone that I don't feel like throwing away that money to start over.
 
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eoblaed

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The only news I have heard is that it is actually going into production.

Which, in and of itself is great news. Having to wait until November to get the X was a long wait. The fact that it really looks like this new one will be available in September is very welcome news.
 

ericwn

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Apr 24, 2016
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I’m not convinced that any significant number of X owners will upgrade. The only folks that i know upgrade yearly are taking part in paid upgrade programs.
 
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eoblaed

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I’m not convinced that any significant number of X owners will upgrade. The only folks that i know upgrade yearly are taking part in paid upgrade programs.

I upgrade yearly.

I'm not part of any paid upgrade program. I simply trade in or sell my previous year's phone to offset the costs. Means my brand new phone doesn't really cost all that much. This is actually pretty common practice amongst people that upgrade annually, and as such, most of the people I know with Xs are planning on upgrading this September.
 
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