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I had the reception issue and the proximity issue - reception fixed with a simple layer of plastic over the area (invisishield)

and proximity wasnt fixed but i just realized that when nobody responded, i should check my mute button.

either way, the almost excessive pros of the phone completely outweigh the 2(or 1 since the reception issue was easily fixed) cons
 
There is no proximity sensor issue. I tried holding it to my ear as sloppily and inaccurate as I could, sometimes pressing it against my cheek, moving it around, etc. I tried every possible way to hold a phone to an ear. Nothing. This was done on 7 iPhone 4s, almost all of them were manufactured in different weeks. Nothing.
 
There is no proximity sensor issue. I tried holding it to my ear as sloppily and inaccurate as I could, sometimes pressing it against my cheek, moving it around, etc. I tried every possible way to hold a phone to you ear. Nothing. This was done on 7 iPhone 4s, almost all of them were manufactured in different weeks. Nothing.

its ignorant to claim that there is no issue because you tested a few phones. it's been all over support forums, other mac forums, and even this thread.

the problem exists. you're just lucky that your phone doesn't have it. thats all.
 
There is no proximity sensor issue. I tried holding it to my ear as sloppily and inaccurate as I could, sometimes pressing it against my cheek, moving it around, etc. I tried every possible way to hold a phone to an ear. Nothing. This was done on 7 iPhone 4s, almost all of them were manufactured in different weeks. Nothing.

it is an issue, steve jobs said so at the press conference. my iPhone 4 had it until i fixed it. you're a bit naive if you haven't fully researched the issue...
 
I don't know anything for sure. I do have some limited insight granted through the iPhone developer program of which I am a paid member.

I've worked with Apple engineering on several iOS issues in the past and understand a little bit about the process. I currently have an open defect on the prox sensor issue and have had a few exchanges (through the bug reporter) with engineering staff.

My personal test phones don't have the problem. Nor do any I've been able to lay hands on. However, I very recently found one that the owner thought did here at my office that does so opened the defect.

The reason I think it's a software issue - the path of exploration seems to be along the lines that iOS 4.0 (and 4.0.1/2) can get into a state where it believes you are on speaker (or headset) when you are not. The normal behavior for this condition is to disable the prox sensor. What's triggering this? Who knows but I imagine they'll sort it out and include a fix in 4.1.
 
iPhone 4 32gb Black And Hating It!
iPhone 3g 8gb Black (sold)

So return it, then
 

Not ONE of those "articles" provides any evidence of a fix. They all quote other sources saying it might have been fixed or seems to have been fixed.

I've used each of the betas extensively, with b3 the most used and the problem is just as bad under 4.0

It is NOT fixed.
 
im on my 3rd iphone and have had the prox issue with all of them

I also am on my 3rd and YES all three have the PS problem. My problem is my 30 days are up on the 2nd and the fix is due on the 1st. Will they replace the phone later if this does not fix it or should I get another phone, hope it's fixed and if it's not does that start the 30 days over again????
 
I don't know anything for sure. I do have some limited insight granted through the iPhone developer program of which I am a paid member.

I've worked with Apple engineering on several iOS issues in the past and understand a little bit about the process. I currently have an open defect on the prox sensor issue and have had a few exchanges (through the bug reporter) with engineering staff.

My personal test phones don't have the problem. Nor do any I've been able to lay hands on. However, I very recently found one that the owner thought did here at my office that does so opened the defect.

The reason I think it's a software issue - the path of exploration seems to be along the lines that iOS 4.0 (and 4.0.1/2) can get into a state where it believes you are on speaker (or headset) when you are not. The normal behavior for this condition is to disable the prox sensor. What's triggering this? Who knows but I imagine they'll sort it out and include a fix in 4.1.
You wouldn't mind telling Snowleopard that would you?? Oh that's right you just did! He doesn't have a problem so the rest of the world can't either.!!:mad:
 
My proximity sensor seemed kinda buggy for a couple days but I have not had the issue since. No updates, not sure what changed. If it had remained an issue I would consider returning it. My mother's Droid always had proximity sensor issues and being on the receiving end alone is a terrible pain.
 
We Cant "EXCHANCE" Them !!!!!!!! :mad:

They say its software and there is a fix "Coming"

If you knew anything you would know that most cant get any replacement phones for this issue due to that!

I would exchange mine a thousand times to get it right but I have sat on my thumb for over a month WAITING cause stupid A$$ Jobs says "A Fix Is Coming" so now I have no choice but to wait.

Whats the point in all these people replying that don't have this issue? Why in the world if your phones are so PERFECT would click on this thread and post.

Let us with this issue talk amongst ourselves please! :rolleyes:

because we hate self entitled little dips**ts like you complaining about everything in life


you have a problem, fine return the phone.

I'm sure others probably have the problem, but it's not widespread

the problem is not widespread you just want it to be so someone will pay attention to you and make you feel important
 
There is no proximity sensor issue. I tried holding it to my ear as sloppily and inaccurate as I could, sometimes pressing it against my cheek, moving it around, etc. I tried every possible way to hold a phone to an ear. Nothing. This was done on 7 iPhone 4s, almost all of them were manufactured in different weeks. Nothing.

Jesus H Christ. :rolleyes: The "I don't actually see the problem so it's not there" mentality is getting real old. It's easy to see why the world is in such a crisis with comments like this fueling us towards the future. I have the problem and countless other people do, so your opinion is absolute garbage.

PS: How about you look up an app called call guard and see what it does.
 
Yeah, that'll sure show Apple. I bet 4.1 will come out on Sept. 1 or in the near vicinity; whenever the new iPod Touch ship.
 
There is no proximity sensor issue. I tried holding it to my ear as sloppily and inaccurate as I could, sometimes pressing it against my cheek, moving it around, etc. I tried every possible way to hold a phone to an ear. Nothing. This was done on 7 iPhone 4s, almost all of them were manufactured in different weeks. Nothing.


Sorry Jack, you're wrong AGAIN. Snow Leopard is one of the MR high school children who thinks he knows everything. Please ignore his posts and move along.

I had to replace 4 different iPhone 4s. Two had severe proximity sensor problems, one had the camera shutter freezing issue, and one had 3G data issues. Not one had the antenna issue, but I had a bumper since day one.

The most recent one is a week 24 iPhone sent from an Apple warehouse in Carlisle, PA. No Proximity Sensor problems, in fact this iPhone has no problems at all.

So, if my unscientific method has any merit at all, we can make these assumptions.

1. Not all iPhone 4s have the issue, but some definitely do.
2. I haven't changed my style of holding the iPhone 4, nor has my face changed shape.
3. It's not my "greasy face" as some have suggested, as I haven't changed by daily hygiene rituals and I am well beyond the acne stage.
4. Apple is still replacing iPhones, because I got mine on Monday 8.23.10.

I don't understand why you aren't calling into Apple Care and asking for a replacement.

I specifically requested that they not send me a refurb. The Tier 2 Support guy said he would request it. It came through new, but in a black box.

I also mentioned that I had been patient but this was the last replacement I would accept. If it was defective, I would be returning it even though I was beyond the 30 day window.

I really can't believe that Apple is really saying to wait for the software update and they are refusing replacements to people with documented proximity sensor problems. If it is true, make sure you are documenting each request you make, and each refusal, in writing if possible, with a person's name, date and time of the refusal. You may need it later.

In the US, consumers are protected by the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act (US Federal Law). Basically and fundamentally, it states that a product must do what it is designed to do. If the company who sold it cannot make it right in a reasonable amount of time, you are entitled to a repair, replacement or refund. Magnuson-Moss is for consumer products as the Lemon Law is for cars.

Generally speaking, with the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, the consumer has to make reasonable attempts to have the product repaired or accept replacements. If, after a reasonable number of attempts and the product has still not been fixed, that's when a consumer can ask for a refund, even if it is out of the 30 day window.

When Magnuson-Moss gets mentioned, most companies realize that it is not in their best interest to fight this, as the law puts the consumer first in most circumstances. It's easier to replace or refund than to fight it. If your store manager is unaware of this Federal Law, just call Apple and POLITELY keep going up the ladder until you get to someone who does.

And stop whining.
 
I am really confused on this who proximity issue. It is obvious plenty of people have the issue, but if its a software issue or design issue how come people like me dont have it? Ive had two iphone 4's, the first one I returned because the camera lens got scratched even while in a case from day one, and neither have any issue. I have tried testing it and they both did what they were supposed to: screen darkened when ear went to phone, screen came on when I took it off ear. Same as the 3gs I had for 6 months prior.

But at the same time other people are getting phone after phone replacement saying they have that issue. Could it be batches in certain areas? I am really puzzled
 
I've had 3 iPhone 4's replaced and ALL of them have had it, and they all did it about the same which was quite a bit.

I had a appointment at the Genius bar the other day and they would not replace my phone because of this and said that if they gave me another phone, that phone would also have the issue. He basically said every phone had this issue in one sentence and earlier he mentioned some people didn't have that problem so he was just telling me a bunch of bull. I just want one of these phones that DO NOT have this problem and as a customer I expect them to get me one whether they keep swapping them out or come out with a software update that fixes the problem. I did not buy this phone on promises and hopes of having it fixed in the future.

I recently was escalated to some higher Apple tech support and they have told me that they would allow me to take the phone back to an Apple Store but they were supposed to call me back and have not once they heard from the local store. I believe that store manager has to be willing to do this first.

Anyways, I'd love to know what apple has planned because I'd feel a lot better about keeping it if they would be more open as to when a fix is imminent.
 
If you are getting a run-around, you need to start keeping records. Record his/her name, date and time, contents of the conversation. This is for your records.

If someone didn't call you back when promised, you need to take responsibility and call back yourself. This is pretty basic stuff, but if someone says that he will call you back, ask,"When can I expect your call? What do you need to check on? Why can't we do this today?" TAKE NAMES AND CALLBACK NUMBERS and call back. "You said you were going to call me back on XXX regarding XXX. What is the status today?"

If they are giving you different information, you say, "On XXX you told me that Apple says XXX. What has changed from then?" Let them know that you are keeping records of the conversations.

Use this sentence. No anger. Do not raise your voice. State this with authority. "I have responsibilities and must have a reliable mobile phone. If EVERY iPhone had this problem, I would understand, but there are many out there that work and I need one of those. I cannot wait any longer."

Worked for me. Good luck.
 
I have no problems with the proximity sensor. Always turns off when it goes near my face, however some people are having issues and what I don't get is if it indeed is a software issue wouldn't everyone have the problem?
 
I got lucky to get an iPhone 4 at the local Apple store without having to order it. I think mine has proximity sensor issues, one call ended, two accidentally dialed calls during a call and keypad dialing during a call.

I just reset the network settings, so lets see how that works out.
 
I was having this PS issue with the phone as well, it was driving me crazy:mad:. I never replaced the phone and just figured apple would come out with a software update to address this. However, after jailbreaking my phone I have not had any PS issues what so ever, no hitting the mute buttun, speaker ph, ending calls or anything. It now works the way it should when you hold it to your ear it blacks the screen out and when you take it away it turns on again... I dont know what the JB did or how it changed it but I know it works flawlessly now for me.:D
 
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