I really like ios but right now I'm having a good time with android and a puny 4.7 screen not gonna be enough for me; hopefully they do something great with ios8
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Anyone else switching back to Apple once the iPhone 6 is released
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Nah
All In One Gestures, Nova Launcher Prime, and Swipe Home Button apps have reinvented my way of using Android. Gesture swipes are so fun and makes things open up faster. I have 16 total linked with gesture swipes/double taps. SwiftKey and TubeMate have spoiled me. Bluetooth file transfers and drag & drop/file explorers too.
All In One Gestures, Nova Launcher Prime, and Swipe Home Button apps have reinvented my way of using Android. Gesture swipes are so fun and makes things open up faster. I have 16 total linked with gesture swipes/double taps. SwiftKey and TubeMate have spoiled me. Bluetooth file transfers and drag & drop/file explorers too.
My last iPhone was the 3G, since then moved onto Android, and been very happy.
Only way Apple could get me back into their new phone would be;
- Screen size minimum of 4.7", prefer 5"
- iOS8 needs updating for that new larger screen; Widgets / Live Tiles features.
- Customization that are found in Jailbreaks, the best popular JB features should be added to iOS8.
But if the iPhone 6 is just a larger iPhone 5S, and new iOS improvements, I will pass. I am not a fan of the iPhone home screen that looks like someone left the app drawer open permanently.
Only way Apple could get me back into their new phone would be;
- Screen size minimum of 4.7", prefer 5"
- iOS8 needs updating for that new larger screen; Widgets / Live Tiles features.
- Customization that are found in Jailbreaks, the best popular JB features should be added to iOS8.
But if the iPhone 6 is just a larger iPhone 5S, and new iOS improvements, I will pass. I am not a fan of the iPhone home screen that looks like someone left the app drawer open permanently.
I'm going to request that anyone who uses the above bolded phrase please expound on what exactly makes the device "boring".
If you have a problem with something, instead of simply stating the problem or complaining about it, offer a solution as well.
For instance, I'm perfectly happy with iOS and my iDevices. But I'd really like to see a few things in the next iteration of iOS:
-Quick Reply
-Better email attachment options (multiple attachments .pdfs, .docs, .xls etc)
-Swipe typing
-Core app updates independent of OS updates
-Revamped notification center (I feel they could do better with the space they have)
-Overall improvements to various apps (like the music app which makes poor use of space)
-iPad specific OS features (things that take advantage of the larger display, not sure what specifically but I'm sure they'll come up with something).
Also looking forward to the iWatch as more than just a smartphone on your wrist, but that is neither here nor there.
Now - your turn
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I want real attachment support (like android) in email!
unfortunately this would require some kind of 'finder' which seems unlikely to ever happen
Even the jailbreak hacks that provided this functionality have not been updated to iOS 7!
AnyAttach was very slick
The ability to download files would be nice too. Safari download enabler (JB tweak) does this well.
itransmission (torrent client) works great and would be nice if it didnt need JB either.
I'm to the point where JB is required for any consideration for using iOS products
unfortunately this would require some kind of 'finder' which seems unlikely to ever happen
Even the jailbreak hacks that provided this functionality have not been updated to iOS 7!
AnyAttach was very slick
The ability to download files would be nice too. Safari download enabler (JB tweak) does this well.
itransmission (torrent client) works great and would be nice if it didnt need JB either.
I'm to the point where JB is required for any consideration for using iOS products
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I'm curious - how much time do you spend looking at the home screen of your Android device?
I see this comment a lot, yet no one can tell me WHY they need the home screen to look "different".
In my instance, for quick glance info I use the notification center which gives me app updates, messages, weather, calendar and stocks. Also, alerts are pushed to the lock screen so I can always see what's waiting for me before unlocking.
Usually, I unlock my phone because I intend to use it. Depending on what the purpose is, I'll spend time IN the app I need to achieve that purpose. Very little time spent on the home screen. It was the same when I used an Android device. Widgets were fine and all, but nothing I couldn't already get in the notification center on iOS. And whether or not widgets have an effect on battery life, I did experience worse battery life on my Android devices than on my iPhones.
At any rate, would love to hear your thoughts/use case.
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YES! I forgot this one - need to add it to my list. This is actually my top ask for IOS 8.
I don't agree that it would require a "finder". It could be just like the photos/videos attachment system. But really, all they would need to do is add the missing file extensions and an "open in" dialog box that lets you pick which app you want to pull the attachment from. The apps themselves ARE the file system and file folders. The user just can't see a box with all the apps and files in each app listed.
yea I dont really care how they do it as long as I can add files (more than just photo/video) mainly interested in PDF's and Doc's myself to REPLIES specifically (hopefully can integrate apps such as dropbox). Starting a new email from within dropbox instead of just replying and attaching is tedious and unprofessional!
they do, just years down the road lol. Remember when they finally brought out folders, and even then it was half assed, but praised it like it was the holy mecca of new phone apps like it was totally unique and special and Apple fans ate it up like cake. When I had folders like 2-3 years before, that actually worked, from Cydia lol, and Android had folders loooooong before. And using SBS years before as well etc.
Nothing they do will sway me though, after switching I just way prefer Android for personal and business, I hate dealing with iTunes for every little thing. And I'm always doing bluetooth transfers, or using Airdroid which I love when I'm on the computer. Our iPhones are slow as hell doing transfers wirelessly, I just did a bunch of videos zipped from yesterday to my computer on Airdroid fast, I remember using the iPhones to transfer and taking like 5-10 min for stuff that on Android takes like a minute or less. I do things "my way", I like have especially my work and business stuff organized and setup on my phones and computers "my way" and not Apples, some are fine with that, just not for me anymore.
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Totally agree, the iPhone needs to cut the iTunes cord. No need to have to plug into iTunes for your phone updates or to a lot of stuff on the computer. That's so last decade
Totally agree, the iPhone needs to cut the iTunes cord. No need to have to plug into iTunes for your phone updates or to a lot of stuff on the computer. That's so last decade
I never plugged into my computer for updates. Or backups.
Totally agree, the iPhone needs to cut the iTunes cord. No need to have to plug into iTunes for your phone updates or to a lot of stuff on the computer. That's so last decade
Ya this is brought up all the time over here and I still have yet to understand why.....
The only iDevice I've ever plugged into iTunes is my old iPod classic I still use.
My iPhones and iPads don't get plugged in because its not necessary. Hasn't been for years.
How do you move media to and from the device? I'm using ifunbox for USB , but I'd really rather just use explorer/finder. For wifi media transfer I'm using ifile (jb). Can only add media from 3rd party sources to the music app w/ iTunes or jb apps I believe. Moving photos into the photo app is also tricky without iTunes isn't it?
As far as movies and music go, I use iTunes Match for all my music so any third party stuff is uploaded and synced automatically.
As for movies, if I've torrented them (which I don't do often) I'd have to plug in. But I haven't done so as I don't have an iPad that has enough storage to warrant adding a bunch of movies to it. Usually I'll make sure, if I buy the Blu-Ray, it has a compatible digital copy. Other than that, I just buy via iTunes.
For smaller files, apps like dropbox and other cloud storage apps work just fine provided you have a decent amount of storage. If I ever want to watch something via my iPad I upload and delete after use so it doesn't take up a ton of space. I also signed up for various cloud storage apps so I have a good amount of total storage to use.
Hopefully Apple can get movie companies on board with an iTunes match for movies. But I'm sure the licensing issues there make that an incredibly difficult proposition. Usually my process starts with PocketCloud Pro to VPN into my home iMac, then I add whatever movie I have stored to the cloud and it shows up on my iPad.
I'm sure there are other apps that allow the same type of functionality. I like having all my media in one place and tend to stay away from any type of torrenting so I just make sure my purchases all are either in iTunes or have an iTunes compatible digital copy. There are a few I have through Sony UV and those are shown through the Flixster app.
so it seems like itunes really is necessary
you either have to plug into it or purchase from it
Not really. You could purchase via Amazon or some other digital retailer and use their app. iTunes (as a store) is just simpler for me. Heck, since I use my iPad most of the time I buy on my iPad too. I can redeem the digital copy codes on my iPad. No wires or computer required.
The desktop application iTunes isn't necessarily required. And there's a big difference between the Mac and PC versions.
Really don't want to hash this out, but the amazon app wont get photos into my albums or music into my music app. I am quite certain no nonjb application can add tracks to the music library. If you purchase from itunes you are right, everything can be wireless and you never need to plug in. If you don't purchase from itunes you must plug in (and use itunes).
Ok....there are numerous ways around plugging in. But whatever.
And it all depends on what you're using. You could use Google Music and upload tracks there - use the Google Music app. I mean....there really are so many different ways to do it....
Ok....there are numerous ways around plugging in. But whatever.
if I buy cd's from a store how do I get them in my music library without itunes?
same goes for a dvd
Google Music.
Amazon Cloud Player.
Any number of cloud storage options.
Again - depends on what the end goal is. How would you do it on Android?
And whats the reason for buying CDs versus digital media? Quality?
If you're asking how do you put a CD into the MUSIC app on your iPhone, you're right. You can't without iTunes. But you still don't have to plug into anything. iTunes match = import CD into iTunes and it's automatically synced.
Can't do so with movies due to licensing and such.....nothing to do with Apple. If you're ripping a DVD you can still use other cloud storage options to upload and sync.
Oh and I just noticed your photos issue - if its taken on something other than an iPhone, just use the camera connection kit to transfer via USB or SD card. If you are transferring edited photos, you can add to photo stream in iPhoto without using iTunes. You could also save all edited photos to an SD Card and plug that into the iPad as well. All without iTunes.
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so it seems like itunes really is necessary
you either have to plug into it or purchase from it
Yeah, while the reliance on iTunes is far, far less than it used to be, you still need to use it for moving anything locally to on device storage, though there are options to avoid this in many cases as well--just not for absolutely everything.
I still use iTunes to manage our media library--makes it much more consistent as we have numerous iPods, iPads, iPhones, Apple TV. The only time I actually need to transfer anything using iTunes is to move movies onto my kids iPads, iPods (for traveling) and much like using a solution such as AirDroid on an Android device, I usually do it wirelessly, often to multiple devices simultaneously.
And for all the shortcomings of iTunes, it still offers a more effective (complete app data yet simple and requiring no intervention) device backup solution, IMO.
iTunes on a Mac really is a great application anyhow. I could see why someone would want to avoid using it on a PC.
It is not necessary and I've shown numerous ways to move various media to the device without using iTunes - but iTunes works quite well IMO and the few times I do need to move something over, it works like a charm.
I agree, but like you I'm also looking at this from the perspective of a longtime user fully immersed in the Apple ecosystem, and doing so on a Mac. I can also appreciate how it could be more cumbersome if you already live outside of iTunes and don't wish to move all of your media into it. Yes, there are other solutions but it generally now becomes more tedious, usually requiring the use of multiple solutions/services depending on what you're trying to sync/transfer (one app for music, another more photos, yet another for video, etc).
Im really not in the apple ecosystem. I have a pair of ios devices and an iPod Classic. I just had to grin at the proposition of paying for iTunes Match to avoid using iTunes , that is classic
It's not terrible and I have it installed on my windoze pcs, but IMO it is required for modern day ios devices. The less entrenched you are with apple, the more necessary iTunes on the computer becomes.
It's not terrible and I have it installed on my windoze pcs, but IMO it is required for modern day ios devices. The less entrenched you are with apple, the more necessary iTunes on the computer becomes.
Yup - honestly, if I were in that position my first action would be to somehow move it all to one platform. Whether that's google music, iTunes, Amazon etc...
I can't stand having media in all sorts of places. The 5 or so movies I have stuck in the Flixster app irritate me to no end....I suppose I could rip the Blu-Rays but I have no experience doing so and no program to use.
If one simply moved to a single platform before purchase (or at time of purchase) it's really not so bad. Sure, you would then likely want to stay within that platform from then on, but usually its much easier that way.
I guess, depending on the platform, moving later becomes tedious again. But I don't think this is an iOS-problem. They all have their own applications and solutions. That's why I'm a huge proponent of the ecosystem as a selling point. Its the main reason I stick with Apple.
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Im really not in the apple ecosystem. I have a pair of ios devices and an iPod Classic. I just had to grin at the proposition of paying for iTunes Match to avoid using iTunes , that is classic
It's not terrible and I have it installed on my windoze pcs, but IMO it is required for modern day ios devices. The less entrenched you are with apple, the more necessary iTunes on the computer becomes.
Not to avoid using iTunes - to avoid plugging in.
I have it on my work Dell and I think its atrocious....REQUIRED is a strong term. Is it easier? Yes. Absolutely necessary? No. And plugging in certainly isn't necessary all the time.
But honestly, its that way with all of them these days. The ecosystem is important and they're all building up a group of services to keep you entrenched. Apple isn't alone in this - they just don't have an iTunes app on Android devices (though supposedly it may be coming - and I think it should).