Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Anyone else uninterested in a 4K Apple TV at this point?
- Thread starter thadoggfather
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
What you mean just like being able to record in 4K on your brand new iPhone 6s/6sPlus but unable to play it back in 4K on your brand new AppleTV 4, yeah that was most certainly odd
Surprisingly, the default settings with energy savings set to low... I tried playing around with them based off of what rtings.com suggested, but always preferred what it looked like before.
You have to tell us how many simultaneous streams you plan on running. Plan on 15Mbps each. It's not bad.
Probably because you're used to viewing with cooler color temperature settings. Rest assured you'll get used to it, but generally the warmest setting on a TV is the one intended to be used in a proper calibration. The reason many manufacturers default to cooler settings, including the awful 'vivid' (or dynamic in your case) mode is because it puts out the most light and gets ill-informed consumers to ooh and aah over it.
I had atv 2, but I had no use for it. I don't even watch tv....thanks to youtube and etc.
The biggest question to me is when or if the various apps (Netflix, YouTube, Amazon (when it's released) etc), will be updated to support DV? Have any of them indicated their plans?
Then whether ATV4K will pass through lossy Dolby Atmos? It has been said the audio specs of ATV4k are the same as the current ATV, but I don't believe there is any content that offers Atmos today to test whether it's passed through the ATV?
Then whether ATV4K will pass through lossy Dolby Atmos? It has been said the audio specs of ATV4k are the same as the current ATV, but I don't believe there is any content that offers Atmos today to test whether it's passed through the ATV?
Netflix, Amazon and vudu all offer atmos. It will not pass atmos. My collection consists of many atmos movies and it still won't pass through.
I expect Netflix and amazon to add support for Dolby vision.
So they offer Atmos on the HD-versions of the movies? (I've never checked)...I guess I figured that was only available on a 4k stream. If that's true and it's currently available on their HD versions, and the current ATV isn't passing it, that's really sad news, and I'll not upgrade to ATV4k.
Just blows my mind that Apple would fix the mistakes of the current ATV with regard to video but then ignore the mistakes they made with the audio.
Having just gotten my first 4K HDR TV I can authoritatively say I need a 4K Apple TV even less than I imagined. I definitely won't be getting one.
Reason being that my Sony 900E has all the apps I use on ATV (HBO Go, YouTube, Netflix) as well as one they don't have (Amazon Prime) and over wi-fi they all load faster than my ATV does on ethernet (even 4K HDR content which I find shocking) and are integrated so it's one less remote and one less HDMI connection I have to deal with.
Never thought I'd say this because Apple TV has been one of my favorite products for a decade, but Apple needs to start thinking of themselves as an app and not a piece of hardware. My Sony should have an Apple TV app that allows for iTunes purchases and iPhone video casting and that's that because everything else is redundant.
We're in a Smart TV world now, and while the operating systems not very elegant or well designed it really doesn't matter because the apps are the apps and they work and they're free and they're fully integrated into the TV itself and it feels foolish to purchase a peripheral streamer when the one in the TV is good enough.
Reason being that my Sony 900E has all the apps I use on ATV (HBO Go, YouTube, Netflix) as well as one they don't have (Amazon Prime) and over wi-fi they all load faster than my ATV does on ethernet (even 4K HDR content which I find shocking) and are integrated so it's one less remote and one less HDMI connection I have to deal with.
Never thought I'd say this because Apple TV has been one of my favorite products for a decade, but Apple needs to start thinking of themselves as an app and not a piece of hardware. My Sony should have an Apple TV app that allows for iTunes purchases and iPhone video casting and that's that because everything else is redundant.
We're in a Smart TV world now, and while the operating systems not very elegant or well designed it really doesn't matter because the apps are the apps and they work and they're free and they're fully integrated into the TV itself and it feels foolish to purchase a peripheral streamer when the one in the TV is good enough.
The problem with smart tvs is the crappy audio. So I'll only use streaming devices I can feed into a avr. And most smart tv apps are slow and buggy. My lg is the first tv where they've been pretty good but still the audio isn't great.
You can feed the smart TV audio to your receiver. I have a new LG C7 and I use optical out to the receiver and the audio works perfectly. I believe optical won't do ATMOS, but I don't have that anyway.
I'm aware. Crappy audio. No DD+. Certainly no HD audio. I do that when I want Dolby vision but otherwise avoid doing that. Once you get a receiver that can do hd audio, atmos and dtsx there's no going back. I do have an LG B6.
The only thing I don't like about my 900E is the slow SoC. The panel, processing software, and overall design are beautiful. However, I much prefer my Apple TV, which I can also AirPlay to if I want. My Harmony Elite remote also means just one remote as well, and with the press of a single button it turns on all my equipment and sets it all to the appropriate inputs and settings.
Optical and ARC will only do up to lossy 5.1. Many TVs also come with HDMI ports that have a hodgepodge of capabilities on different ones, so I prefer having one cable to my TV from my receiver and then switching devices with my receiver.
Yeah, same, I've never seen a smart TV UI that I prefered (and none that outperformed a current gen standalone box or stick). Plus, in my experience, the TV development is _slow_ and/or non-existent (I actually had a smart TV, with a faulty Netflix app, never got fixed ...)
The other thing is consistency across the household. If I want a Sony set in one room, an LG in another, and to continue to use our [still pretty terrific] Pioneer plasma in another, with 3 ATV4s, they ALL work the same, have the same apps, same authentication (and with tvOS 11, even the same app layout).
Plus a perk for us: we can grab an ATV, toss it in a bag, and travel with all our TV services ready to go
Don't misunderstand- I'm not saying smart TV is the future. I'm saying smart TV is the now and the battle is over. Not so much for gearheads who find forums such as this one, I'm talking about your basic consumer who converted every TV in the house to an HD panel back in 2009 and here 8 years later is itching to upgrade.
In this space, Apple has gone from something amazing to something very frustrating. A week ago, without a smart TV, my ATV was indispensable, my favorite CE device by far, my only concern was defending the 1080p version and eschewing the new 4K model. But here 6 days into my first smart TV, the only reason I need an Apple TV in my life at all is because of my library in iTunes and my home movies shot on iPhone. YouTube, HBO Go, Pandora, Prime, I've got it all onboard my TV, there is no reason for me to use these essential apps on my ATV4 anymore. What I should have is an Apple TV app in my Sony TV and I'm in a much better place, I'll still be loyal to Apple, it's all good. But force me to buy a peripheral, different story.
This is the way the typical consumer thinks. Apple TV is in trouble in the big picture. Sure, these boxes "sell well" to this point, but once someone gets their first 4K HDR panel with integrated apps they'll be in the same place this ex-Apple TV diehard is right now- frustrated that Apple TV isn't an app like Netflix and is instead a piece of redundant hardware that only functions as a home movie streamer.
