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Anyone else uninterested in a 4K Apple TV at this point?
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Have you got an Xbox one S or some such UHD capable player? Get your hands on a copy of Planet Earth II in 4K HDR, it's not perfect, but it's the best all round demonstration of the what HDR can offer to mainstream TV down the line. Scenes like the Harvest Mouse and Cerval in the grasslands episode win most people over very quickly.
Also don't sweat it about upscaling, you got a Sony X90 right? Sony's upscaling is about the best in the business imo, my ZD9 does a stunning job and I really can't fault it.
Likewise I've got an LG OLED and at the moment I use the build in Netflix app so I get DV and 4K. Where there is a big advantage is that with the AppleTV you can output DD+ to your AVR and thus decode Atmos as well. So a sound
improvementIn addition I prefer it to be routed through my AVR so I can switch ARC off and get the overlays off my AVR as everything is installed out of sight.
DD+ carries Atmos
DD+ carries Atmos
Wondering if ATV 4K will pass it through or whether adding in systems sounds before output would disturb?
It is the lack of a separate digital audio output that is the killer for me. I don't want to receive my digital audio out via a 4K TV (which then has to be on if I am listening to audio and not watching video), when using Airplay etc. I am sure any digital audio stripped out from the HDMI and then filtered via a TV to its TOSlink optical out, it going to be messed about with and 48k/16 bit at best. With the Mac Mini I use as a media player at the moment, although it is limited to 1080p on my 4K TV, at least I can get 192kHz/24 bit audio LCPM Stereo via the USB to my Benchmark Media DAC 3L and then on to the Krell/ATC audio system.
I'd be very surprised, it is a standard part of the specification of DD+
That is why I route all my sources through an AVR....
The apple tv does not support atmos. The meta data will be stripped out when it's decoded and sent to the receiver. Many devices support DD+ but they don't give you atmos automatically. They have to support it.Likewise I've got an LG OLED and at the moment I use the build in Netflix app so I get DV and 4K. Where there is a big advantage is that with the AppleTV you can output DD+ to your AVR and thus decode Atmos as well. So a sound
DD+ carries Atmos
That used to be an issue in Apple's own Movie app, but it isn't in Infuse or MrMC (or other 3rd party apps like Netflix etc.).
I have waited a long time for the 4K version of the ATV, but now I'm wondering if I really need or want it. My non-HDR 4K Samsung set has its own set of apps with some 4K choices and my DISH subscription includes Netflix in 4K. My real question is will the 4K movies on iTunes be RENTABLE titles or purchase only? No one seems to have answered this yet.....
Why did they feel the need to jack the price up? $129 was a way better starting point for a streamer.
What 65" did you buy?
I recently got a LG C7 65" OLED and watch mostly DirecTV HD and the upscaling works really well. I doubt that will be an issue for you. If you have Amazon Prime, try out some of the Amazon original HDR material like Bosch... looks really great.
It's a shame that sound formats have been overlooked. Last year I bought a Yamaha YSP-2500 which outputs outstanding detail and immersion when watching DTS-HD and other uncompressed sound formats. There is no way I'm compromising on sound.
I guess I'll be sticking with Blurays until there is a 4K streaming device that supports a wide range or sound formats.
Fingers cross the net ChromeCast or Fire TV are comprehensive and future proof.
I guess I'll be sticking with Blurays until there is a 4K streaming device that supports a wide range or sound formats.
Fingers cross the net ChromeCast or Fire TV are comprehensive and future proof.
Cause no one knows but its safe to think that rentals will be in 4K. If your Samsung is for 4K but no HDR you may be able to upgrade it with one connect to unlock HDR
And you know that the Apple TV 4K strips out atmos because .... Have you got one yet?
Read the specs. It does not support it. The audio it supports is the same as ATV4 and that doesn't support atmos either.
They don't say it does. Specs say what something supports. Not what it doesn't.The specs don't say at all it doesn't support it
I posted this elsewhere so I'll post it here too.
Unless I'm mistaken on the whole thing, Atmos support using DD+ would require it to be bitstreamed. If it is bitstreamed, system audio sounds, including Siri, would not be transmitted which would pretty much be a non-starter for Apple. And if it supported it, I'm sure they would have mentioned it as a selling point.
The specs say it supports DD+ which is what is required to carry the meta data...
Many devices support DD+ and don't support atmos. It means nothing. ATV4 supports DD+ yet no atmos. If it did apple would have announced it like they invented it.
The big litmus test for me is the following; Is Apple 4k as good as 1080p Blu-ray?
Obviously the resolution is theoretically higher but thats only a piece of the puzzle. Motion, color fidelity, sound may all be in favor of 1080p Blu-ray. On top of this isn't Blu-ray discs the same price as a download from Apple or even cheaper when you factor you can get them on sale many times?
My biggest issue with Apple 4k is paying high prices for a file download thats lossy.
Is this confirmed? Also need xfinity, youtube and prime video to join the party as well.