I will be getting one today or tomorrow. My only sticking point is Apple's price range. On second thought, it will be the 64 Gig.
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Anyone else uninterested in a 4K Apple TV at this point?
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Not out until the 22nd (pre-orders on the 15th). No need for 64gig. I have owned the 64gig model and at no point over the two years have I come close to even half that. There's just no use case for it.
It's $30 Au more. It just doesn't seem worth risking it for such a small price difference.
Although I probably won't use it.
You are so right, I meant the 32gig. I have the 64gig now and nowhere close to 32gigs, lol.
Yeah if the price difference was still $50, I would go 32GB. Being only $20 now, I'll got 64GB.
I think if you're primarily interested in video it's unlikely you'll get anything out of the 64GB. But *if* games are actually updated to take advantage of the higher resolution, they may come with bigger textures that would use more space and could potentially make use of the additional flash.
Been waiting for a 4K apple TV for about a year as my Shield TV appears to be a bit of a dog.
I'm really hoping it supports proper 24hz output this time round though as telecine judder is a massive peeve for me.
It'll also be hugely frustrating if it's not able to output Atmos over DD+.
I'm really hoping it supports proper 24hz output this time round though as telecine judder is a massive peeve for me.
It'll also be hugely frustrating if it's not able to output Atmos over DD+.
I would like to see 24 Hz support as well, but most nicer TV's come with a reverse 3:2 pulldown feature that essentially converts a judder laden 60Hz signal to smooth 24 Hz.
Not reported in the keynote, but supposedly the new phones support shooting in 24fps (film mode). Would be odd if not supported on new Apple TV.
Not as a bitstream over HDMI. But nothing prevents an app from decoding these formats and sending them to the AVR in PCM format (which is a lossless process). E.g. Infuse does that.
I thought it was a brand of root beer and you were a fan of their label.
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I understand fully but have resisted a 4K panel because I have a suspicion that for non-4K content, like 100% of what I watch on Fios, YouTube, Amazon, etc., will now be upscaled and I'll be without the 1:1 pixel clarity that my 7 year old Sony has brought me. I'll find out tomorrow when my new 65" goes on the wall.
As for Apple TV, nothing changes today. It's fine that they've released a 4K HDR streamer for the few who aren't satisfied watching Happy Gilmore without the deepest of blacks, but the world isn't clamoring for that, we get that for free via smart TV apps like Amazon. Wake me when Apple signs an exclusive deal with the NFL to be the sole broadcaster of all NFL games in 4K. Wake me when Apple gets the NHL or MLB to do likewise. I'll run to the store and buy 8 ATV4K's and 8 new 4K TV's when that happens.
Yes it does. The cost is significantly more which is why most movies released today have their DI's done in 2K. The cost of editing and storage space for 4k is huge.
There is no oomph or volume to the soundtrack though. It was a problem with the old one and will be with this since nothing's changed. There was loads of complaints on the official apple forums because the sound was rubbish. It was like playing it in a cardboard box with earplugs in.
The free upgrade from Hd to 4k is mind blowing for me , with my 350+ itunes movies , this is the bargain of the century !!
Eh it's a newer codec so the physical size of the files are roughly 1/2-1/3 depending on the quality of the compression and it really doesn't cost Apple nor the studio more money to provide a 4k video since it's being conformed for UHD releases too. If anything Studios were unnecessarily slowing growth by charging prices nobody was willing to pay for. Especially with Netflix and Amazon providing 4k HDR content for no big cost over HD.
Looks like the previous ATV now supports HEVC for 1080p, this is new right? Must be due to tvOS11.
Find it more interesting to stream my own movie collection which isn't 4K. Could reencode it all now.
Find it more interesting to stream my own movie collection which isn't 4K. Could reencode it all now.
My thought exactly, I have the 32GB and I have no clue how to even come close to filling it up.
Unless I load a tonne of useless apps.
App quality for tvOS leaves alot to be desired IMO.
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By the time that happens you will buy the Apple TV 8K...
I bought my Apple TV and I have yet seen any games that would use that much space, and then there is the issue you need a bluetooth controller and they are way overpriced. And for that money just buy a Xbox on sale and you can have WAY more power and game variety.
Don't get me wrong, I wanted the Apple TV 4 to succeed and games to be developed but, AAA devs have no interest in porting games to it. Even older ones don't come at a fast enough rate to fill 64GB of space
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Not 50% more...
Let's say HD $10, UHD $15.
That's a 50% price increase and there is no actual cost in storage that justifies that.
And FYI, I am a Storage Administrator (NetApp, EMC, HP3Par)
Adding on my big post already, the only way IMO games can take off on this new 4K Apple TV is if Apple develops and sells (not the usual Apple prices) a Bluetooth controller.
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Yes I think that was the biggest announcement for the Apple TV ecosystem. Huge! And will make others like Google lower their pricing. More competition, better for everyone
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My thought exactly, I have the 32GB and I have no clue how to even come close to filling it up.
Unless I load a tonne of useless apps.
App quality for tvOS leaves alot to be desired IMO.
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By the time that happens you will buy the Apple TV 8K...
I bought my Apple TV and I have yet seen any games that would use that much space, and then there is the issue you need a bluetooth controller and they are way overpriced. And for that money just buy a Xbox on sale and you can have WAY more power and game variety.
Don't get me wrong, I wanted the Apple TV 4 to succeed and games to be developed but, AAA devs have no interest in porting games to it. Even older ones don't come at a fast enough rate to fill 64GB of space
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Not 50% more...
Let's say HD $10, UHD $15.
That's a 50% price increase and there is no actual cost in storage that justifies that.
And FYI, I am a Storage Administrator (NetApp, EMC, HP3Par)
Adding on my big post already, the only way IMO games can take off on this new 4K Apple TV is if Apple develops and sells (not the usual Apple prices) a Bluetooth controller.
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Yes I think that was the biggest announcement for the Apple TV ecosystem. Huge! And will make others like Google lower their pricing. More competition, better for everyone
I don't doubt I won't fill up the 64GB but it just seems like a no brainer with the pricing structure. I don't see a reason for me to upgrade the apple TV again in the next 4 years, $30 Au for piece on mind is nothing really.
£20 difference in the UK, so 64 for me. Pending some more tech info (bit rates etc), if it seems good and I can see the results at the shop first, probably get one.