Anyone else worried about dimness of iPhone X OLED?

[9594864]

Or maybe you'll re-phrase it in plain english.

Manual brightness can be set at 100% which is 25% less than the maximal brightness the phone can attain. The 25% brightness is only accessible by the system when auto brightness is set and there is very high ambient light, which is completely understandable. However, if the engineers were smart then manual brightness being set to 100% would TURN ON auto-brightness (not known but hidden) until the user adjusts the brightness below 100%. When the manual brightness is set to 100% and auto brightness turns on, it will use the ambient light sensor to judge whether it should adjust the brightness into the 25% off limits zone. When the ambient light falls back down, it adjusts back to a minimum of 100% or it turns off if the user adjusts the brightness below 100%.

I can't describe it any simpler.

 

[ke-iron]

Seriously guys brightness? Is the brightness on the current iPhone 7 an issue in direct sunlight? No it isn’t, neither will it be an issue on their future phones either.

 

[44267547]

Seriously guys brightness? Is the brightness on the current iPhone 7 an issue in direct sunlight? No it isn’t, neither will it be an issue on their future phones either.

I never had an issue with the brightness on my iPhone 7 in direct sunlight. I can read the display easily without any issue.

 

[jsmith189]

Galaxy Note 8 seems to have a lot brighter screen than iPhone X

You've had time with iPX? Lucky!

 

[torana355]

Seriously guys brightness? Is the brightness on the current iPhone 7 an issue in direct sunlight? No it isn’t, neither will it be an issue on their future phones either.

Except OLED being an emissive display is inherently harder to read under direct sunlight compared to a transflective LCD panel. This means you need higher nits on an OLED display to make up for it. In short 650 Nits on a LCD is not equal to 650 Nits on an OLED panel.

 

[Technarchy]

If a screen is 500 nits 95% of the time (100% of the time for people who don't use auto-brightness or are indoors) then it is a downright scam to market it as higher. I have read the whole article

You do know iPhones also push to higher brightness levels only when using automatic and in sunlight brightness levels, right?

Like this is not a new thing...
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I never had an issue with the brightness on my iPhone 7 in direct sunlight. I can read the display easily without any issue.

It's hard to explain but OLED doesnt seem as bright at the level as LCD. It needs to be higher. Seems odd, but it's true.

 

[the future]

Manual brightness can be set at 100% which is 25% less than the maximal brightness the phone can attain. The 25% brightness is only accessible by the system when auto brightness is set and there is very high ambient light, which is completely understandable. However, if the engineers were smart then manual brightness being set to 100% would TURN ON auto-brightness (not known but hidden) until the user adjusts the brightness below 100%. When the manual brightness is set to 100% and auto brightness turns on, it will use the ambient light sensor to judge whether it should adjust the brightness into the 25% off limits zone. When the ambient light falls back down, it adjusts back to a minimum of 100% or it turns off if the user adjusts the brightness below 100%.

I can't describe it any simpler.

Yeah, ok, why not. I just fail to see how this is better than simply turning on auto-brightness in the first place.

 

[Nanotyrns]

Seriously guys brightness? Is the brightness on the current iPhone 7 an issue in direct sunlight? No it isn’t, neither will it be an issue on their future phones either.

When I'm out in bright sunlight and taking pictures (hikes, walks, etc etc), I honestly have no idea if everything is in focus or exposed properly until I look at the pictures later. I have to depend on focus peaking. Maybe punching up the brightness in full sunlight would not be such a bad idea even if only temporarily.

 

[mib1800]

You do know iPhones also push to higher brightness levels only when using automatic and in sunlight brightness levels, right?

Like this is not a new thing...
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It's hard to explain but OLED doesnt seem as bright at the level as LCD. It needs to be higher. Seems odd, but it's true.

Maybe the difference is with LCD set to highest brightness, the whole screen looks washed out and you lose detail (i.e whole screen is lit up with the highest brightness). OLED highest brightness depends on individual pixel. White area has highest brightness and darker area has lower brightness (i.e. screen is lighted up evenly). With OLED you can see a much clearer image (albeit at not so bright) under sunlight.

 

[ke-iron]

You do know iPhones also push to higher brightness levels only when using automatic and in sunlight brightness levels, right?

Like this is not a new thing...
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It's hard to explain but OLED doesnt seem as bright at the level as LCD. It needs to be higher. Seems odd, but it's true.

Remember Apple said it’s the first OLED worthy of going into an iPhone. I believe Apple would not put a display that was inferior to the LCD displays they’ve used in previous models, on their highest end, flagship, 10 year anniversary iPhone.

 

[Technarchy]

Remember Apple said it’s the first OLED worthy of going into an iPhone. I believe Apple would not put a display that was inferior to the LCD displays they’ve used in previous models, on their highest end, flagship, 10 year anniversary iPhone.

There is always a compromise. We just don't know where it is with the iPhone X OLED panel yet.

 

[ke-iron]

When I'm out in bright sunlight and taking pictures (hikes, walks, etc etc), I honestly have no idea if everything is in focus or exposed properly until I look at the pictures later. I have to depend on focus peaking. Maybe punching up the brightness in full sunlight would not be such a bad idea even if only temporarily.

What do you mean you have no idea if everything is in focus? You can look at the screen if you have an iPhone. The iPhone screen gets more than enough bright in direct sunlight.
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There is always a compromise. We just don't know where it is with the iPhone X OLED panel yet.

I understand what you’re saying but I trust Apple in matters like this. This is directly from their website.

“OLED Designed for iPhone X
The first OLED screen that rises to the standards of iPhone, with accurate, stunning colors, true blacks, high brightness, and a 1,000,000 to 1 contrast ratio.”

I believe they have done their home work and we will see how good it is in little over a month.

 

[Nanotyrns]

Wow. Way to go not caring to relate to a word I wrote.

The screen is washed out and hard to see in bright/direct sunlight making it hard to see fine detail in the scene I'm trying to photograph. You should however continue to disregard the experience of others and just insist you're right. I'm sure it serves you well in all your endeavors and your friends must love every moment with you.

 

[Macalway]

I've notched that this spec used to be a big deal, but things have changed. After a certain point it's moot. 600 nits, 1200 nits, 2 million nits (God help us!) Overkill? Oh, and the sly Samsung keeping the 'good' screens for themselves theory, is getting old.

 

[Travisimo]

Absolutely no worries here. Not only do I expect the X to be perfectly viewable in sunlight (like my current 7 Plus), but I also expect that the display will have excellent calibration by Apple.

 

[ke-iron]

Wow. Way to go not caring to relate to a word I wrote.

The screen is washed out and hard to see in bright/direct sunlight making it hard to see fine detail in the scene I'm trying to photograph. You should however continue to disregard the experience of others and just insist you're right. I'm sure it serves you well in all your endeavors and your friends must love every moment with you.

If it’s a recent iPhone, when taking pictures, it is more than bright enough in direct sunlight to see what you’re doing on the screen. How is trying to see fine detail on the screen going to help you when trying to take a picture? Tap to focus, and take the picture. You’re taking a picture in bright sunlight, not editing one. Recent iPhones screens are not washed out in direct sunlight either. We own iPhones and we take pictures outside all the time without issues. You’re complaining about make belief issues.

 

[9594864]

Yeah, ok, why not. I just fail to see how this is better than simply turning on auto-brightness in the first place.

Because a lot of people do not use auto brightness and because auto brightness is garbage.

 

[the future]

Because a lot of people do not use auto brightness and because auto brightness is garbage.

I beg to differ. Auto brightness is basically perfect.

 

[9594864]

I beg to differ. Auto brightness is basically perfect.

Every time I tried it, it would always end up slightly above minimum brightness despite the fact that I was in absolute darkness. That tells me it's garbage. Minimum and maximum are insanely simple, it's everything in between that is much more difficult, but of course they couldn't even do minimum right.

 

[the future]

Every time I tried it, it would always end up slightly above minimum brightness despite the fact that I was in absolute darkness. That tells me it's garbage. Minimum and maximum are insanely simple, it's everything in between that is much more difficult, but of course they couldn't even do minimum right.

Or maybe you didn't "calibrate" it correctly. You can do this, it's simple, google it.

 

[bruinsrme]

I could see NitGate becoming a thing. I've heard the X & 7 are the same interns of nits.

http://bgr.com/2016/09/19/iphone-7-display-testing-review-color-accuracy-brightness/

I am proposing all the gates in to one.
Perhaps, "The iPhoneX isn't perfect but all these suckers bought it anyways-gate"

 

[Strelok]

Every time I tried it, it would always end up slightly above minimum brightness despite the fact that I was in absolute darkness. That tells me it's garbage. Minimum and maximum are insanely simple, it's everything in between that is much more difficult, but of course they couldn't even do minimum right.

Wait a second, it’s supposed to be very low if the surrounding area is dark. Less light = lower brightness. Do you want it to blast you with max brightness in the dark?

 

[The Game 161]

Still better than LCD

 

[barkomatic]

I find it funny that a spec on brightness is not a concern yet there is a thread on this forum about how the processor on the new iPhones is so much better than the competition. If Apple has a superior spec=then specs matter. If a competitor has a superior spec=specs don't matter.

 

[Givmeabrek]

Wait a second, it’s supposed to be very low if the surrounding area is dark. Less light = lower brightness. Do you want it to blast you with max brightness in the dark?

I think he wants it lower. Why I don't know. Seems fine to me. I always use auto brightness. Why would I want to fool with it all the time? My battery (7+) lasts for two days anyway.