Anyone here buying a Pre?

[statik13]

How exactly is the calendar an embarrassment? Maybe if you use a PC. My calendars are at all times synced between my iCal, google calendar, and my iPhone. The 3.0 update will make the calendar even better. The notes feature does what it says it does. Every notes app that came with my old palm pilots did absolutely nothing except save text. The additions to be added with 3.0 will, of course, make it even better. And you want a to-do app? Why don't you just pick one of the dozens on the app store that are free?

You can't set repeating alarms for anything a bit advanced. (ie, a meeting the 2nd Tuesday of each month). If you miss an alarm it is never repeated. It takes 7-9 clicks (plus text entry) to enter an appointment vs the 1 click (plus text entry) it takes on a Palm. If two alarms go off at once, only the text from the first is displayed. If you get part way through entering an appointment and then accidentally quit out it loses all your changes. You can't display a calendar of the year. You can't search your calendar. There is no snooze button for alarms. There is no independent volume for alarms verses game / music.

Notes doesn't allow you to sync. Doesn't allow search. Doesn't allow sorting. Doesn't allow you to categorize anything. Doesn't allow you to mark things as private or password protect a single note.

You can replace the to-do list with a 3rd party app, but you still don't get any syncing or reminder notifications.

The 3.0 update will address some of these. Notably the syncing and searching. Keep in mind that even the Palm or Clie you had 5 years ago could do all these things above. The Pre will be able to do even more.

The iPhone is a great phone. But sadly, not a great PDA.

 

[TheSpaz]

You can't set repeating alarms for anything a bit advanced. (ie, a meeting the 2nd Tuesday of each month). If you miss an alarm it is never repeated. It takes 7-9 clicks (plus text entry) to enter an appointment vs the 1 click (plus text entry) it takes on a Palm. If two alarms go off at once, only the text from the first is displayed. If you get part way through entering an appointment and then accidentally quit out it loses all your changes. You can't display a calendar of the year. You can't search your calendar. There is no snooze button for alarms. There is no independent volume for alarms verses game / music.

Notes doesn't allow you to sync. Doesn't allow search. Doesn't allow sorting. Doesn't allow you to categorize anything. Doesn't allow you to mark things as private or password protect a single note.

You can replace the to-do list with a 3rd party app, but you still don't get any syncing or reminder notifications.

The 3.0 update will address some of these. Notably the syncing and searching. Keep in mind that even the Palm or Clie you had 5 years ago could do all these things above. The Pre will be able to do even more.

The iPhone is a great phone. But sadly, not a great PDA.

I don't think Apple wanted to release the iPhone with every feature under the sun. They wanted the features to work and with 3.0, we're getting closer to a PDA with Copy and Paste, Notes Syncing, Searching and Push Notifications. So most of that stuff you just mentioned will be obsolete in a few weeks.

 

[statik13]

I don't think Apple wanted to release the iPhone with every feature under the sun. They wanted the features to work and with 3.0, we're getting closer to a PDA with Copy and Paste, Notes Syncing, Searching and Push Notifications. So most of that stuff you just mentioned will be obsolete in a few weeks.

Well, 4 things off my personal list, not most.

*fingers crossed* I hope so too! I'd love to get an new iPhone instead of a Pre.

 

[TapHappy]

Maybe to replace my work Blackberry. Keeping my iPhone!

 

[tvp]

Sprint doesn't provide service where I live so definately not. I don't think I would anyways, but I do want to at least play with one a bit.

 

[darngooddesign]

Good lord no. It's a Playschool-looking smart phone with a slide-out keyboard. They're a dime a dozen.

The OS is everything.

That's the reason why those countless iPhone wannabees can't beat the iPhone.

From what's been shown so far, the Pre's OS is IMO superior to the iPhone's OS. While I'm not planning on giving up my iP, the Pre is awful tempting, and which ever of the two phones lands on Verizon first will get my money.

 

[DavidMc]

I am one of the main IT guys in our company that deals with the company phones. So I will have one to replace my Treo Pro. As smooth as the OS looks, I would not give up my personal iPhone3G for it. I am looking forward to getting it in my hands though...I like new toys.

 

[Oliver.m]

I love the iPhone too much to switch permanently. Would like to give the Pre a go though when it comes out.

No other phone so far has got me to leave my iPhone. Once the initial excitement of another phone has worn off; i will miss the iPhone OS.

 

[Donz0r]

I love the iPhone too much to switch permanently. Would like to give the Pre a go though when it comes out.

No other phone so far has got me to leave my iPhone. Once the initial excitement of another phone has worn off; i will miss the iPhone OS.

I agree - but this Pre OS looks like a whole different beast entirely.

Other phones try to mimic the iPhone. The webOS mimics and innovates well beyond the iPhone.

 

[Melrose]

The OS is everything.

That's the reason why those countless iPhone wannabees can't beat the iPhone.

From what's been shown so far, the Pre's OS is IMO superior to the iPhone's OS. While I'm not planning on giving up my iP, the Pre is awful tempting, and which ever of the two phones lands on Verizon first will get my money.

Yeah - if I was an intense smart phone user I could see that. I'm still at the stage where (for me personally) the looks weigh a bit more than they would otherwise.

...however, I am very doubtful it will live up to it's hype. Actual real-world use will tell a lot more than the company-controlled advertising we have atm.

 

[FlavaFlavez]

Yes, I am buying it. I have had my iPhone for a while, getting bored of it now. I want a physical keyboard. Sprint has a return policy, if its no good I will just return it and pay the few bucks for a few days use.

 

[Goona]

The OS is everything.

That's the reason why those countless iPhone wannabees can't beat the iPhone.

From what's been shown so far, the Pre's OS is IMO superior to the iPhone's OS. While I'm not planning on giving up my iP, the Pre is awful tempting, and which ever of the two phones lands on Verizon first will get my money.

Superior in what way?

 

[QCassidy352]

The Pre is far more of an advanced computer in your pocket. A few months ago I was as blind as you guys, I still love my iPhone to death and will be getting a new one this summer - but damn I am jealous of this Pre.

Ok, call me confused. The Pre is far more advanced and your jealous of it, but you'll not only be keeping your iphone, you'll be getting a new one?

I will not be getting a pre. Here's what I'd miss if I left the iphone:
1) my 3rd party apps. unless and until someone else has an app store that can replace a number of key apps I've come to depend on, I'll stick with the iphone
2) virtual keyboard. I have a blackberry curve and find typing on it much harder than on the iphone
3) One-touch syncing with all of my apps, contacts, calenders, bookmarks, and media. I'm sure the Pre will have some work around (missing sync?), but I'm not really interested in looking for a complicated way to do what the iphone was made to do (work with a mac).

I don't know about Sprint. I know some people hate it, but people also hate AT&T, and I went from Verizon to AT&T for the iphone with no appreciable difference in service (both excellent). So from my perspective, Sprint might or might not be good but I *know* that AT&T is (for me, where I live - don't flame me if your experience differs), so it's not a switch I'm eager to make.

 

[kas23]

I don't know about Sprint. I know some people hate it, but people also hate AT&T, and I went from Verizon to AT&T for the iphone with no appreciable difference in service (both excellent). So from my perspective, Sprint might or might not be good but I *know* that AT&T is (for me, where I live - don't flame me if your experience differs), so it's not a switch I'm eager to make.

Oh my gosh, an actual sensible response about cellphone carriers. I'm not being sarcastic either.

I just switched from Sprint 5 months ago and loved them, but they never had any good phones. I hope the Pre does well enough to spread to other carriers, because as of right now, there's no easy way to go back (stuck in a family plan). Good luck Pre, the competition is already paying off.

 

[Oliver.m]

I agree - but this Pre OS looks like a whole different beast entirely.

Other phones try to mimic the iPhone. The webOS mimics and innovates well beyond the iPhone.

Well then this may well be the one that does it. I do love Apple and the iPhone but if something better comes along then i'm all for it, there are still some parts of the iPhone which i feel could be improved (even with 3.0). Hopefully, as i know it already has to some extent, it will push Apple to further improve the iPhone OS.

 

[darngooddesign]

...however, I am very doubtful it will live up to it's hype. Actual real-world use will tell a lot more than the company-controlled advertising we have atm.

We've seen video walk-throughs of the OS' features, that's a lot more than company-controlled advertising. We'll see what its like in real life, but I can't imagine those videos are far off the mark. If anything the final OS will be even more polished.

Superior in what way?

Multitasking and web integration mainly. OTB it feels like a more powerful OS than our one, and if it gets a robust app store then it will be a serious contender. Odds are Sprint will be more open in what kinds of apps they allow in the store. I do think that its going to remain more serious, and have less to do with gaming than the iPhone.

 

[Donz0r]

Ok, call me confused. The Pre is far more advanced and your jealous of it, but you'll not only be keeping your iphone, you'll be getting a new one?

I will not be getting a pre. Here's what I'd miss if I left the iphone:
1) my 3rd party apps. unless and until someone else has an app store that can replace a number of key apps I've come to depend on, I'll stick with the iphone
2) virtual keyboard. I have a blackberry curve and find typing on it much harder than on the iphone
3) One-touch syncing with all of my apps, contacts, calenders, bookmarks, and media. I'm sure the Pre will have some work around (missing sync?), but I'm not really interested in looking for a complicated way to do what the iphone was made to do (work with a mac).

I don't know about Sprint. I know some people hate it, but people also hate AT&T, and I went from Verizon to AT&T for the iphone with no appreciable difference in service (both excellent). So from my perspective, Sprint might or might not be good but I *know* that AT&T is (for me, where I live - don't flame me if your experience differs), so it's not a switch I'm eager to make.

I'll be keeping it to stay with AT&T, I have a family plan. Also I like the virtual keyboard, iTunes integration, and investment in Apps.

but as far as the OS goes, the webOS puts the iPhone to shame IMHO. Just look at the demo videos and screenshots on the pre website. I know its not real world data - but its still representative of the OS. The "synergy" integration of all contacts, calenders etc. The multitasking. You really just have to use it for a bit.

 

[Donz0r]

Superior in what way?

Synergy: bringing together contacts/calanders/etc. from all over (aim, yahoo, google, facebook, outlook, etc.) into one place and making them work seamlessly together. combined messaging: sms/aim/gtalk/email etc. all in one place

Multitasking

Vastly superior notification system: small notifications at bottom of screen, and ability to view all pending notifications vs iPhone's pop-ups that disable the use of the phone until you read and close out of the notification

I love my iPhone to death but I think the webOS is better at this moment in time. iPhone has better music player

 

[Goona]

LOL so those are the 3 things that makes it superior?

 

[Abyssgh0st]

How about three things that make it inferior?


More like three hundred things for that.

 

[howardnow]

I am having great luck with Sprint!

Yes, I would love an iPhone, but At&t would cost me more than $35 a month to not even have as many minutes or text as my unlimited data Sprint plan.

I live in L.A. and travel within the U.S. and have had no problems on Sprint. Data is fast on my Palm Treo 755p touch screen phone (although nothing beats the look of the internet on the iPhone).

Sprint has been great to me. For the first time, I went $58.00 over my 2000 minutes last month (nights and weekends start at 6pm for me). I called and they dropped the overage charges and told me if it looks like I might go over again, just call in and get 100 extra minutes for $5 or whatever I need before the end of any month to avoid any costly overages. That was nice and no I did not threaten to leave or anything like that.

Last year I called an international cell phone and did not realize that calling a European cell phone costs extra on all carrier plans. Again, Sprint dropped the $80 in extra charges.

I have nothing but good things to say about Sprint. What do you think about At&t?

 

[Chaosen1]

How about three things that make it inferior?


More like three hundred things for that.

Name three things that the iPhone does better than the Pre. I can only name two: games and music

If those two things are very important to you, iPhone is king. Otherwise, the Pre looks like a much better product.

 

[175170]

LOL so those are the 3 things that makes it superior?

Uhhh... yeah?
Have you seen any videos of the Pre?
The Synergy is incredible. From a contact's page, you can view their AIM, and see if they're online.
For Multitasking, you can actually do two things at once. The "cards" thing is incredible.
And don't even get me started on the notification system.
How the iPhone does it wants to make me puke.

 

[statik13]

Name three things that the iPhone does better than the Pre. I can only name two: games and music

If those two things are very important to you, iPhone is king. Otherwise, the Pre looks like a much better product.

Good post.

iPhone wins for:
Games
Music
iTunes remote
Developed ecosystem (Hardware and software)
Storage space

Pre wins for
Organizer
Multitasking
More open system (Can run existing Palm Apps)
Notifications
Replaceable battery

It's a toss up for
Cloud vs local syncing
Physical vs virtual keyboard
Web browsing
Form factor

 

[kas23]

I have nothing but good things to say about Sprint. What do you think about At&t?

This is the general impression of people who have actually had Sprint. The people who automatically bad mouth Sprint are those who have never had them.

If I was in your shoes, I would be at the Sprint store the day this came out, trying it out.