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After 2 days of extensively testing, I have both good and bad

The good: seems very stable in all conditions, with/without external monitor, projecter, sleep, restart, windows mac the new panel is always working

The bad (Solved): My screen seems a little bit too blue. At full brightness it is less noticeable, but its there. Don't have time to dig into this but simply changing the setting in system profile regarding the display not help. With shade(the software for the brightness control) stopped, the display color can be adjusted (No idea why).

I haven't test the -04 panel on leopard. Before the installation, I did not do a fresh installation of the os X either.
 
can anybody recommend a screwdriver that will allow me to get to those two pesky screws at the bottom of of the bezel? I've tried several now and none will do it. Thanks!
 
Hi Yall. I have been following this thread for quite some time and I wanted to report back with what seems to be a success! I received my LTN15U2-L04 off of ebay from someone selling a used one. The packaging seems to hint that it was an Alienware part. I will now attempt to retrace my steps.

I had to take apart the laptop as I couldn't find a screwdriver to open just the monitor housing.

I attached my external 24" 1900x1200 monitor and set it to mirror my desktop with its maximum resolution.

Then I put the computer to sleep and unplugged the inverter cable and plugged it into my new monitor.

At first I didn't realize I had to plug in the data cable as well, so I woke the laptop up to find a nice blank backlit screen and a fully functional external. I tested the brightness and sure enough the new monitor changed brightness accordingly.

Confused as to why there was no data showing, I restarted the computer and reset the PRAM and booted into windows. This is when i glanced at the old screen and could see windows! Stupid me. I didn't change the data cable.

I reset the computer and booted back into OSX. Here I put the computer to sleep and plugged both the backlight and data cable into the new monitor. I woke it up from sleep and it worked!

Everything seems to work like stock with no odd colorations and no need for external programs for anything.

BTW, I have an original CD 2.0ghz.

Good Luck, yall! And thanks for all the trial and error.

PS: I wish we had resolution independence. Everything is TINY!
 
Success with SAMSUNG LTN154U2-L04

MBP Core Duo 2.0

Upgraded to Leopard, stock (no SwitchResX or ATIInject), followed instructions above...

Plugged in an external display, mirrored (don't think this a necessary step, except for having a display working if things go wrong)

Took out monitor screws, removed rear display housing.

Put laptop to sleep

Unplugged data, inverter and isight cables

Laid new panel on top and plugged inverter and data cables into it

Woke laptop to check, it was working - woo hoo, brightness control and all.

Put it back to sleep, removed old LCD from bezel and fitted new

Typed this.

So basically with Leopard it works out of the box simple as that, no software fiddling necessary.

thanks all

Matt
 
Congrats, Matt.

After a few days, I am thoroughly enjoying this display, just wish it was brighter. Maybe ill try one of those LG displays at some point.

As an update:

I reset my PMU and PRAM earlier, and the PMU doesn't affect the mod, but the PRAM reset killed the mod. I had to take it all apart again and reboot with the old display and do the sleep method.

Thus, I conclude:
a. Do not reset PRAM with new display.
b. Keep the old display just in case there is a malfunction and you need to do the swap.
 
Congrats, Matt.

After a few days, I am thoroughly enjoying this display, just wish it was brighter. Maybe ill try one of those LG displays at some point.

As an update:

I reset my PMU and PRAM earlier, and the PMU doesn't affect the mod, but the PRAM reset killed the mod. I had to take it all apart again and reboot with the old display and do the sleep method.

Thus, I conclude:
a. Do not reset PRAM with new display.
b. Keep the old display just in case there is a malfunction and you need to do the swap.

Interesting - I reset my PRAM after performing the mod as a matter of course and it works fine still.

Are you running Leopard? if not then maybe that's it - in that case after a PRAM reset you should probably try booting with an external monitor attached, then sleeping and waking?

I am off to collect a calibrator to profile my new screen properly.
 
Interesting - I reset my PRAM after performing the mod as a matter of course and it works fine still.

Are you running Leopard? if not then maybe that's it - in that case after a PRAM reset you should probably try booting with an external monitor attached, then sleeping and waking?

I am off to collect a calibrator to profile my new screen properly.

Interesting. I do have Leopard installed. After it messed up, I tried the external monitor and all sorts of permutations of sleep/wake/PRAM reset/Windows. I had to bite the bullet and do the original monitor swap.

What I find so odd is the great variability.
 
I just hope the next MBP comes with a hi-res option for the 15". Otherwise i'll have to go through all of this!
 
Interesting. I do have Leopard installed. After it messed up, I tried the external monitor and all sorts of permutations of sleep/wake/PRAM reset/Windows. I had to bite the bullet and do the original monitor swap.

What I find so odd is the great variability.

Oops, actually I just realized I didn't reset the PRAM, just the PMU. It makes sense that it if anything would break it it would be resetting the PRAM as that would set the stored display resolution and refresh rate back to factory defaults. (edit afterthought - actually after a bit of surfing it there seems to be some disagreement about whether the display settings are stored in the PRAM in OSX, although this outcome would tend to suggest they are)

Guess I'll avoid doing a PRAM reset ever then. Although sometimes OS software updates will perform one so I'll be keeping a careful eye on those too.

Matt
 
I just hope the next MBP comes with a hi-res option for the 15". Otherwise i'll have to go through all of this!

I somehow doubt that it will. They probably want to keep it as a feature to sell the 17". Also the newer 15" have LED backlights and I'm not sure there is a 15" LED backlit panel on the market yet to do this swap.
 
update for post 864 and 851

Leopard and LTN154U2-L07 and a CD 1.83 MBP (first generation) work together immediately including the brightness control. No need with patches, override files etc. Although I can never make the brightness control working with tiger natively. Good luck.
 
For anyone whose Samsung LTN154U2 is too blue

As a quick fix if you don't own a screen calibrator try using my ICC profile I just generated instead....

Just unzip and drop the profile into either

/Library/ColorSync/Profiles or ~/Library/ColorSync/Profiles and then open Display preferences and select it (you will need to uncheck 'Show profiles for this display only to see it)

Maybe this will solve your problem if these panels all have a similar enough cast with this graphics card combo.

Profile generated by Pantone HueyPro on MBP Core Duo 2.0G, Samsung LTN154U2 gloss, ATI Radeon 256MB, 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz, 32-bit Color

(as a side note, I couldn't get the Huey to calibrate properly in vertical orientation, it kept generating a profile with a heavy magenta/brown cast. I had to stick it on horizontally and then it worked)

Matt
 

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Hey guys, I'm in the middle of putting together a guide for all of this so you don't have to weed through 35 pages to get the info you need. I also just got my upgrade to a Core 2 and I'm going to move my 07 (glossy) over to it and see if it "just works" like a few have described. if it does then it means that people with the original core duos have to use the ATIinject.kext and those witih Core2's do not. (with leopard).

I should have the guide done by next week.

Cheers

Looking forward to the guide with rapt anticipation. In the interim, what is the best vendor to order from? I'm hopelessly behind in this post so if anyone could just list off the places you've ordered your screen from, that would be super.
 
Lg

Has anyone tried the LG panels on Leo yet? I realize that they simply didn't work on 10.4 but I am thinking of ordering one next week on the off chance it works. I can always stick it back on ebay if it doesn't I suppose.

That is unless anyone can give me a "Tried it, no chance." post before I get organized.

Anyone?
 
Has anyone tried the LG panels on Leo yet? I realize that they simply didn't work on 10.4 but I am thinking of ordering one next week on the off chance it works. I can always stick it back on ebay if it doesn't I suppose.

That is unless anyone can give me a "Tried it, no chance." post before I get organized.

Anyone?

I would be quite interested in your results. Good luck!
 
Has anyone tried the LG panels on Leo yet? I realize that they simply didn't work on 10.4 but I am thinking of ordering one next week on the off chance it works. I can always stick it back on ebay if it doesn't I suppose.

That is unless anyone can give me a "Tried it, no chance." post before I get organized.

Anyone?

Hey, I'm going to be ordering an LG panel as well pretty soon, can we compare notes on this?

I have several model numbers.

LP154WU1-TLB1 which appears to be the one used in the Thinkpad T61p

And then several being sold by smartmicrousa.com, all for $258 or $268

LP154WU1 (A1) $258
LP154WU1 (A1)(K1) $268
LP154WU1 (A1)(K2) $268
LP154WU1 (A1)(K3) $268
LP154WU1 (A1)(K5) $268
LP154WU1 (A1)(K6) $258
LP154WU1 (A4) $268
LP154WU1 (TL)(A1) $268
LP154WU1 (TL)(B1) $258
LP154WU1 (TL)(C1) $268

Meanwhile, simply searching for "LP154WU1" gets various other sellers selling the panel with just that identification for $400-440.

It may be that these are all identical panels, with slightly different model numbers for different laptop models. Or maybe not. Any idea?
 
Thinkpad T61p panel

LP154WU1-TLB1 which appears to be the one used in the Thinkpad T61p

I got my screen from a Thinkpad T61p and it is a Samsung LTN15U2-L05. I just wanted to point that out.

And just for an update. I'm still having a few issues. I was one of the guys that just got it to work. Using what I guess I coined as the "sleep method." I plugged the panel in with the computer in sleep mode and connected to an external monitor. When I unplugged the external monitor in mirror mode and the laptop refreshed the internal panel and it was showing correct colors in1920x1200.

These are the issues I have.

  1. Cannot sleep in Windows. When the computer comes back up the colors are messed up. (there has been plenty of people talk about the messed up colors before but I don't know what to call it.)
  2. Some videos on some web sites show in the messed up colors under windows. Specifically the live video feeds on CNNs site if you want to check with yours. This one is really strange to me.
  3. Occasionally the computer heats up a lot. The fan cranks up really high and it eventually cools. I didn't use the computer with the original screen long enough to know if this is normal but it seems like it shouldn't be.

Other than the fact that this panel is nowhere near as bright as the original everything else works good. I'd like to find out what panels may be as bright as the original to find a better option to use than this one. Any input would be great.

Also as for the guy that is working on the guide for doing this mod please feel free to contact me if you want more info on my experience with this.

later,
Kyle
 
I got my screen from a Thinkpad T61p and it is a Samsung LTN15U2-L05. I just wanted to point that out.

Yup, I had seen your earlier post about this (thanks for that) - the T61p uses both Samsung and LG panels. Of the LG panels, though, the model the T61p uses appears to be the LP154WU1-TLB1 (which is what I meant - sorry it wasn't clear).

And just for an update. I'm still having a few issues. I was one of the guys that just got it to work. Using what I guess I coined as the "sleep method." I plugged the panel in with the computer in sleep mode and connected to an external monitor. When I unplugged the external monitor in mirror mode and the laptop refreshed the internal panel and it was showing correct colors in1920x1200.

I believe I came up with the 'sleep method' originally (as a rather last-ditch effort, as I wasn't sure some electronics might get fried). Since I've installed my screen (-04 Samsung) I have had the inner panel stop working twice, I think both times after I shut the lid to go into sleep mode rather than use the 'Sleep' menu item (both times an external was also connected - I believe closing the lid only makes the inner panel stop working on my machine when an external is connected, but I haven't tested this). The first time I used the 'sleep method' to fix it. The second time I tried 'Detect Displays' from inside the System Preferences and that did the trick. So if you're ever in need, try that first, as it's a lot easier ;-)

These are the issues I have.

  1. Cannot sleep in Windows. When the computer comes back up the colors are messed up. (there has been plenty of people talk about the messed up colors before but I don't know what to call it.)
  2. Some videos on some web sites show in the messed up colors under windows. Specifically the live video feeds on CNNs site if you want to check with yours. This one is really strange to me.
  3. Occasionally the computer heats up a lot. The fan cranks up really high and it eventually cools. I didn't use the computer with the original screen long enough to know if this is normal but it seems like it shouldn't be.

I am having worse issues that this with my revision -04 Samsung panel (which appears to meet with widespread success elsewhere). Though it was easy enough to get the panel to display something, I have to use a screen refresh of 50Hz to get good colours (and no shimmer) in Mac OS (at that refresh it seems to be perfect, but it's progressively worse at higher refresh rates), and I've never got it to work without funky colours in Bootcamp (I use VMWare Fusion now so I'm not bothered). And I had to use the 'sleep method' to get the panel working in the first place. I don't know if anyone else has had to do this with this particular panel - apparently most have not. It's odd the way some panel and machine combos act differently for different people (one of the hurdles of making a guide).

Incidentally, when I was first trying to get the panel to work I had to fiddle around a lot, and made a fair number of those 'plug in LVDS cable while Mac is in sleep mode then bring out of sleep mode' fixes. After a while my inverter died and I had to get a new one. I'm not sure whether it was this that caused the inverter to give out (it made a buzzing noise at every brightness level below maximum, something that is not an issue with the replacement I got, so it may have been faulty from the start) but it might be a warning to those fiddling a lot with the screen. If your screen suddenly goes completely dark, try replacing the inverter.

(By the way, for whomever is making the guide - it might be a good idea to make it "wiki" based, or as nearly wiki-like as you can make it (i.e. revisable in some way by the user community) so that everyone's experiences can be taken into account.)

Apart from that, everything is fine - it's all reliable enough for me to have taken the thing with me on a month long road trip without issues.

Other than the fact that this panel is nowhere near as bright as the original everything else works good. I'd like to find out what panels may be as bright as the original to find a better option to use than this one. Any input would be great.

The revision -04 Samsung screen is also not as bright, and there is more 'ghosting' (a lower pixel response rate). I think the LG panel is as close to the original specification in terms of brightness and response rate as anyone can get - which is why (and some others) are interested in seeing if we can make it work. (The Thinkpad user community seems to be pretty happy with that panel, as well.) Someone reported way back (before Leopard) that they didn't get it to work, but now that Leopard is out and seems to be much more custom-panel friendly, it seems like it might be a good idea to try again.
 
yeah, if the LG panel ends up working I'll be ordering it and adding it to my laundry list of mbp add-ons.
 
I've been busier than I thought, I've not had a chance to order one yet.

But hunting around now I'm looking at the LG screen from an IBM Lenovo z61p. All the different codes (A1 K6 / A1 K5 etc) seem to show what brackets are connected to the screen or who they were made for...not 100% sure though.

I don't want the problems vv-tim and others have had with brackets needing removing. On the, admittedly tiny, pics on ebay I can't see anything of the sort on an A1 K6 and the connectors look like they match.
Looking at other auctions the A1 K3 version seems to be the Dell part with the brackets.

This store sells them all side by side, but they are using the same pic for them all so that doesn't help the comparison. They are also USA only so not an option for me, but they may upload real pictures of the connectors & brackets if you send them a message.
http://stores.ebay.com/LEONWORKS-ORIGINAL-GENUINE-PRODUCT_W0QQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247

I think I'll order the K6 today or tomorrow, after a bit more hunting, and keep my fingers crossed.

I do have one question for the people with the other screens that aren't as bright. Are you using the MBP inverter or the one that came with the screen? Would an inverter that drives more power make the screen brighter, blow it up or not change anything (i.e. does the screen just draw what it needs?)?
 
I do have one question for the people with the other screens that aren't as bright. Are you using the MBP inverter or the one that came with the screen? Would an inverter that drives more power make the screen brighter, blow it up or not change anything (i.e. does the screen just draw what it needs?)?

I am using the SAMSUNG LTN154U2-L04 panel with the MBP inverter. My panel didn't come with its own inverter. Good luck
 
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