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I know what you are talking about. My partner has the 4 and all his photos are ever so slightly zoomed in by default when browsing. If you pinch to zoom out you can see the full size with black boarders. On the 5 the black boarder are there by default. The only thing I can think of is that if they zoomed all the pictures in to fill the screen like they do on the 4 is would crop too much out because of the large screen. Still they could have zoomed it in the same amount they do on the 4 so the bars appear smaller.

Came in here to post this. No one else before him understood the OP.
 
the iphone 4s zooms in to make it fit since the photos are close to the same ratio as that screen.

since the 5s screen has a much different ratio than the camera it just leaves them as you see it.

solution: pinch to zoom ;)
 
I have a JOB. And it seems the other mistake I made was taking time to put this on the forum to see if there was a solution but also to give a heads up to a prospective upgrader. I don't have a third bloody camera around here just see for yourself. I'm not your enemy nor am I trying to deceive you.

You have spent more time trying to describe the problem and argue with people offering to help than if you had simply pressed two buttons and taken a screenshot.
 
While it might solve the problem, swipe left and pinch to zoom is slower than simply swiping left and having the photos automatically scale up to fill the screen. Its not a ridiculous request.

You can't please everyone. Most of us want to see the full picture when browsing vs. seeing a cropped version. If there's one picture you really want to check out, you can zoom in it or better yet, upload it to a computer or TV and view it there.

The request is ridiculous cause he's whining about a few pixels which apparently makes/breaks his entire experience with the device.
 
crop photos to 16:9, at least the ones you're interested in showing people. A manual crop should have better composition than the phone deciding on what you should see.
 
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wow!!

at first I thought you were insane after reading the title.
but after reading your post, yes, this totally makes sense.

the iP4/4S photos are cropped when viewed on screen, unless you zoom out a bit to see the full photo, thus resulting in black borders.

the iP5 (guessing from your comments since i have no iP5) displays the full image and thus a smaller image. it may seem silly to bump the image display slightly to make it similar to the iP4/4S when there will still be black bars based on the proportion of the display.

Previously the image zoomed to display no black bars. now the display will show black bars unless super zoomed/cropped and so no need to zoom it slightly.

hope this helps...no screenshots needed!!
 
If I squint really heard.. yeah, the 5 is by default zooming about 110%, probably with the assumption that we'd rather skip the edges of our photos than see black bars. You can pinch it any way you want, though..
 
You can't please everyone. Most of us want to see the full picture when browsing vs. seeing a cropped version. If there's one picture you really want to check out, you can zoom in it or better yet, upload it to a computer or TV and view it there.

The request is ridiculous cause he's whining about a few pixels which apparently makes/breaks his entire experience with the device.

By making it an option, you can please everyone.

Most people who don't use BT would prefer not to have it on all the time... oh yeah, its an option with a toggle. According to your argument, wanting developers to update their apps to use the entire screen is ridiculous because its only a few pixels. Its no different than options to allow full screen Safari browsing or forcing videos to fill the screen; both those things fill up just a few pixels in the name of convenience.
 
By making it an option, you can please everyone.

Most people who don't use BT would prefer not to have it on all the time... oh yeah, its an option with a toggle. According to your argument, wanting developers to update their apps to use the entire screen is ridiculous because its only a few pixels. Its no different than options to allow full screen Safari browsing or forcing videos to fill the screen; both those things fill up just a few pixels in the name of convenience.

The photo app uses a method that chooses which zoom will fill up the most screen AND hide the least pixels. Therefore on the widescreen you get letterboxes (they aren't called black bars) so you can see more of your pictures.

Apple does give you an option though! you can crop all of your photos (new and old!) to 16x9. Then the iPhone software doesn't have to make the trade off between more letterboxes, or more pixels of your image.
 
The photo app uses a method that chooses which zoom will fill up the most screen AND hide the least pixels. Therefore on the widescreen you get letterboxes (they aren't called black bars) so you can see more of your pictures.

Apple does give you an option though! you can crop all of your photos (new and old!) to 16x9. Then the iPhone software doesn't have to make the trade off between more letterboxes, or more pixels of your image.

Cropping is a destructive process and will only make the images look ideal on the device you are specifically cropping for; images cropped for the iPhone 5 will have black bars on the ipad and vice versa. If the option to fill the screen were up to the user it would accomodate everyone without having the user maintain several versions of each photo depending on which devices they have, in my case I would need three, 16:9 iPhone, 4:3 iPad 2, and the original version on my computer. It wouldn't be the iPhone software choosing which tradeoff, it would be the user. It would need to be fit the height, rather than fit the width, otherwise portrait photos would look bad if the device is in landscape.

Again, it should be an option, so its up to each user to decide which compromise they want just like the ability to fill the full screen with a video or full screen Safari is an option each user gets to make.
 
you can always revert to the original thanks to Apple. There is always an option, just not an option with as little work as you would like, so... I would suggest submitting some code to Apple.

You are correct, cropping photos specifically for the iPhone 5's screen while having them look good on your other screens is a lot of work. I would prefer if it were simpler. I don't need to submit code, but I have submitted the suggestion to Apple.
 
wow!!

at first I thought you were insane after reading the title.
but after reading your post, yes, this totally makes sense.

the iP4/4S photos are cropped when viewed on screen, unless you zoom out a bit to see the full photo, thus resulting in black borders.

the iP5 (guessing from your comments since i have no iP5) displays the full image and thus a smaller image. it may seem silly to bump the image display slightly to make it similar to the iP4/4S when there will still be black bars based on the proportion of the display.

Previously the image zoomed to display no black bars. now the display will show black bars unless super zoomed/cropped and so no need to zoom it slightly.

hope this helps...no screenshots needed!!


Ok so I could kiss this man!

This is what I mean. Now you may be wondering, why is this a big deal? Well, I'm assuming ( I could be wrong) most people view their iphone photos on their iphone. As a result, when you're browsing through your photos (i.e. showing your wife some holiday snaps), the photos as you swipe along will appear smaller than even on the iphone 4 or 4s. Now of course you could ZOOM in and out again, but this is a bit of hassle for each and every one.

Apple being the perfectionists that they are have set the iphone 4/4s to very slightly zoom in - which provides an attractive full screen photo that 9/10 times won't crop out anything important.

The iphone 5 does not do this, it displays the whole photo, which in combination with the black bars means 90% of the time you're looking at pretty small images.

I consider myself a 'moderate' tech enthusiast so I assumed anyone above and beyond that would also be interested in this - especially if you're the kind of prospective buyer who is upgrading primarily for the larger screen real estate (of which I assume there are a few..).

Was trying to offer this, as I thought this sort of thing would be of interest to anyone who frequents this forum, and additionally is the whole point of forums like this in the first place. It's not 'dumb' as someone earlier offered me.

Peace and love to all,

Px
 
You are correct, cropping photos specifically for the iPhone 5's screen while having them look good on your other screens is a lot of work. I would prefer if it were simpler. I don't need to submit code, but I have submitted the suggestion to Apple.

It would be nice if they added the option for different aspect ratios for taking the picture. Right now I have cropped some of my photos and they look much better on the 5 than the 4:3 photos looks. The only reason I like doing it this way is I will still have a 4:3 photo in my photo stream for veiwing on the ipad but I will have a 16:9 version for my iPhone 5 and my 16:9 TV. I hate flipping through my photos and seeing all the black bars on the side. This is one reason I wanted apple to keep the 3:2 aspect ratio and just make the whole screen bigger.
 
In my experience, I've found that the minuscule amount of zoom applied to the 4/4s isn't enough to see any more detail than when viewing the entire image. I'm sure people complained about the automatic zoom when viewing, so Apple got rid of it. Now there are people who are wanting it back. I don't normally like to view my photo's on my iPhone, I just have some of my favorites there if people ever want something to look at when they borrow my phone.

By the way, if it's not cropping anything important out of the picture you are wasting your frame space. :D
 
You are correct, cropping photos specifically for the iPhone 5's screen while having them look good on your other screens is a lot of work. I would prefer if it were simpler. I don't need to submit code, but I have submitted the suggestion to Apple.

I would prefer this as an option as well. And of course, there are other things I wish Apple allowed as an option without having to jailbreak. I understand their desire to control the ecosystem. I just wish they weren't quite as anal retentive about it!:D
 
...I'm sure people complained about the automatic zoom when viewing, so Apple got rid of it. Now there are people who are wanting it back. I don't normally like to view my photo's on my iPhone, I just have some of my favorites there if people ever want something to look at when they borrow my phone.

I honestly don't recall anyone complaining about that.

By the way, if it's not cropping anything important out of the picture you are wasting your frame space. :D

Photography, like any artistic medium is subjective. The ideal amount of "whitespace" around the subiect varies from person to person and also from photo to photo. Especially when you get into the rule of 3s when composing your shots.
 
I have a JOB.

So do I, and I'm taking night classes as well to get a Ph.D. But hey, guess what? it took me less than a minute to do what was asked.

This is an iPhone 4S shot that I took last week, and displaying it on my iPhone 5, taking a screenshot. Excuse my derpy cat:

http://i.imgur.com/3Js47.jpg

And here's a photo I took on my iPhone 5 and displayed it the same way:

http://i.imgur.com/cGseE.jpg

Guess what? They come out the same size.

And it seems the other mistake I made was taking time to put this on the forum to see if there was a solution but also to give a heads up to a prospective upgrader.

Considering your information is pretty much suggestion something that is wrong, and would potentially lead a prospective upgrader to make a wrong decision, yes indeed, this was a substantial waste of time. But I'd say the time wasted is more on us than you.
 
So do I, and I'm taking night classes as well to get a Ph.D. But hey, guess what? it took me less than a minute to do what was asked.

This is an iPhone 4S shot that I took last week, and displaying it on my iPhone 5, taking a screenshot. Excuse my derpy cat:

http://i.imgur.com/3Js47.jpg

And here's a photo I took on my iPhone 5 and displayed it the same way:

http://i.imgur.com/cGseE.jpg

Guess what? They come out the same size.

Considering your information is pretty much suggestion something that is wrong, and would potentially lead a prospective upgrader to make a wrong decision, yes indeed, this was a substantial waste of time. But I'd say the time wasted is more on us than you.


...he means they appear smaller on the screen... not they are smaller in resolution. open your photo app on the iphone 5, and 4s/4. The 4 zooms in so the photo takes up the entire screen (cutting off part of the picture), the 5 has it zoomed out so you see black borders.
 
Yep, I noticed the same thing when a co-worker brought in his new 5 and I took a picture of the same thing with with it and my 4S side-by-side. I thought the picture taken by my 4S was using a different zoom or something, but then I realized it was simply being displayed slightly zoomed in.

Not a big deal in my humble opinion - I think it's something that somebody new to iPhones would never notice, and I suspect most everybody used to the previous iPhones would either not notice the difference, or quickly grow accustomed to it. paddylaz, give it some time and I think you won't have any issues.
 
...he means they appear smaller on the screen... not they are smaller in resolution. open your photo app on the iphone 5, and 4s/4. The 4 zooms in so the photo takes up the entire screen (cutting off part of the picture), the 5 has it zoomed out so you see black borders.

This.
 
wow!!

at first I thought you were insane after reading the title.
but after reading your post, yes, this totally makes sense.

the iP4/4S photos are cropped when viewed on screen, unless you zoom out a bit to see the full photo, thus resulting in black borders.

the iP5 (guessing from your comments since i have no iP5) displays the full image and thus a smaller image. it may seem silly to bump the image display slightly to make it similar to the iP4/4S when there will still be black bars based on the proportion of the display.

Previously the image zoomed to display no black bars. now the display will show black bars unless super zoomed/cropped and so no need to zoom it slightly.

hope this helps...no screenshots needed!!

I noticed this day one when I got the 5. After downloading all my photo's to the phone, I decided to try some new shots, and the exact same thing was happening.

I didn't need to see a screenshot to understand what the OP was saying. If you have an iPhone 5, this should be easy to see. I don't really like the black bars myself. Wish they would have adjusted the camera somehow to fill the screen. I mean, the iPhone went 16:9 to make most movies look better by filling the whole screen, why couldn't they have adjusted the software to crop the photo to 16:9 automatically, to fill the screen.

So, far I LOVE the new screen on the phone, but I HATE BLACK BARS!!!
 
I noticed this day one when I got the 5. After downloading all my photo's to the phone, I decided to try some new shots, and the exact same thing was happening.

I didn't need to see a screenshot to understand what the OP was saying. If you have an iPhone 5, this should be easy to see. I don't really like the black bars myself. Wish they would have adjusted the camera somehow to fill the screen. I mean, the iPhone went 16:9 to make most movies look better by filling the whole screen, why couldn't they have adjusted the software to crop the photo to 16:9 automatically, to fill the screen.

So, far I LOVE the new screen on the phone, but I HATE BLACK BARS!!!

I agree. My old phone is an htc one x, it was crap apart from the fact that it had a 16:9 option for the camera, which meant pics looked beautiful and full screen. I've sold my iPhone 5 now to a friend and am now on a 4s and very, very happy. Anyway I hope this thread is something of a heads up so everyone knows what they're buying. For reasons that don't need explaining, my hometown's (London) apple stores fill the iPhone 5 demo models with a lot of 16:9 photos. I don't wish to go so far as to say this is deceptive, but its worth people knowing these aren't how pics will appear during ownership/camera operation post-purchase xx
 
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