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I agree. My old phone is an htc one x, it was crap apart from the fact that it had a 16:9 option for the camera, which meant pics looked beautiful and full screen. I've sold my iPhone 5 now to a friend and am now on a 4s and very, very happy. Anyway I hope this thread is something of a heads up so everyone knows what they're buying. For reasons that don't need explaining, my hometown's (London) apple stores fill the iPhone 5 demo models with a lot of 16:9 photos. I don't wish to go so far as to say this is deceptive, but its worth people knowing these aren't how pics will appear during ownership/camera operation post-purchase xx

Most people with a brain cell would take photos on those demo phones and see that they come out differently to those preloaded on them, so they can make their own decision.
 
Most people with a brain cell would take photos on those demo phones and see that they come out differently to those preloaded on them, so they can make their own decision.

The point is, I had an iPhone 4, and 4S, and it performed a certain way that I am used to and expect it to. This now looks different on the 5, and debate over it is acceptable. I would have never thought to test taking photo's to see if they still filled the screen. I expected it to be the same. Silly me. :eek:

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If you go to the iPhone 5's camera app, the controls to snap the pic are now boxed off by them self's, and not showing the photo in the back ground. Now, if you turn it to video, the controls are now over the video. I do think they should adjust it for the photo's, as it is for the video. So, it is recording the video in 16:9. Why behave differently between the two? Maybe in a software update? :)
 
I honestly don't recall anyone complaining about that.



Photography, like any artistic medium is subjective. The ideal amount of "whitespace" around the subiect varies from person to person and also from photo to photo. Especially when you get into the rule of 3s when composing your shots.

I don't remember anyone complaining either, doesn't mean people didn't submit feedback to apple directly.

@armandxp, I don't want them to crop my photo's automatically, but I certainly wouldn't mind if they applied the zoom that is being discussed. I would have no problems just zooming out whenever I needed to see the rest of the photo. But I'm also fine with it the way it is. So I'm not going to go out of my way to change this.
 
I don't remember anyone complaining either, doesn't mean people didn't submit feedback to apple directly.

@armandxp, I don't want them to crop my photo's automatically, but I certainly wouldn't mind if they applied the zoom that is being discussed. I would have no problems just zooming out whenever I needed to see the rest of the photo. But I'm also fine with it the way it is. So I'm not going to go out of my way to change this.

Zooming works for me. :cool:

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Wish they could change the resolution from 3264x2448 to 3768x2120? Both of these are 8 mega pixels, but the later would be 16:9? :rolleyes: Don't even know if this is possible without a new camera sensor.
 
Well, this has little to do with OP problem but I'm wondering if everyone realized that the photo you see in the preview screen is not exactly the same as the one you capture. While the preview screen shows a 3:2 image ratio, the captured image is always at 4:3 ratio. The latter is essentially as way to maximize the amount of pixel (I'm assuming the sensor is 4:3). Of course, this is with iOS native camera app.

There are apps out there that have accurate preview screen or live cropping. You can choose from either the traditional 3:2 ratio, 4:3, 1:1 or even 16:9. If you're like me and would much prefer to get the exact image that's composed during preview, than I'd look for app like Scout Camera. It actually baffles me that Apple (and the crossroad between Liberal Arts and tech) would commit such blunder.

If you don't believe me, try it yourself. Capture/compose an image that has an object that's barely in the screen. Then look at it after capturing. You'll notice the object is either cropped out or appears less in the screen.
 
I get what the OP is talking about...look at the big black borders on the top and bottom. This is on my 5.

On my 4S the picture took up the entire screen.

BTW thats a screen shot.
 

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I get what the OP is talking about...look at the big black borders on the top and bottom. This is on my 5.

On my 4S the picture took up the entire screen.

BTW thats a screen shot.
Thanks for the screen shot in portrait. The only way to fix that would be to zoom in quite a bit--far more than on the 4S. Apple probably chose not to do that as it would misrepresent what the actual photo looks like (far beyond what happens on a 4/4S)..

The iPhone 5's screen is longer but the pics it takes are exactly the same size as the 4S. I don't see what other solution there is other than a preference for those who prefer it zoomed to fill the screen.



Michael
 
The point is, I had an iPhone 4, and 4S, and it performed a certain way that I am used to and expect it to. This now looks different on the 5, and debate over it is acceptable. I would have never thought to test taking photo's to see if they still filled the screen. I expected it to be the same. Silly me. :eek:
Silly you indeed. Why expect it to work exactly the same? Think of the screen ratio as has been mentioned, it'd crop the picture so it wouldn't be a true representation until you zoomed out. A widescreen option could be included in the software, which I would prefer, but Apple may see fit to hold that feature back until iOS 7.
 
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Silly you indeed. Why expect it to work exactly the same? Think of the screen ratio as has been mentioned, it'd crop the picture so it wouldn't be a true representation until you zoomed out. A widescreen option could be included in the software, which I would prefer, but Apple may see fit to hold that feature back until iOS 7.
I don't see how it can be done in software though, unless there is a change to the aspect ratio of the camera.



Michael
 
I am also really disappointed by this and cannot understand for the life of me why they would enhance the screen size but not let you appreciate the photos you take by viewing them on the full screen. I have a provided a screenshot as an example:



My girlfriend has an HTC phone; when she takes photos with it she can view them on her full 4.3" screen, so why can't we view them on a 4" screen? She sent me a photo to my phone and that views as full screen. No screen shot of that one I'm afraid as she's naked!
My friend has a Galaxy S3 and he can view the photos full screen.

It just seems like this should have been such a given and I don't really see many advantages so far to having the extra half inch.
 
He is talking about when you take a picture of something (not a screenshot) that it appears smaller than it would on a 4S. Sheesh you guys can be so difficult at times.
 
He is talking about when you take a picture of something (not a screenshot) that it appears smaller than it would on a 4S. Sheesh you guys can be so difficult at times.

Read my post before getting jumped up will you. The photo I posted is one which I took on the phone but took a screenshot of it so people could see what I'm talking about. Granted, my issue may not be identical to the OP's but anyone who reads my post should be able to understand my concerns.
 
I don't know why people are asking screenshots, it's just math which anyone could reason to.

The facts:
1. iPhone 5 screen resolution: 640x1136
2. iPhone 4/4S screen resolution: 640x960
3. iPhone 4S and 5 have the same pixel density (326ppi)
4. iPhone photos aspect ratio: 4:3
5. iPhone 4/4S fills photos to screen, iPhone 5 does not

Conclusions:
1. Fact #2 and #5 lead to the conclusion that photos displayed on the iPhone 4/4S do so by using all the pixels; 640x960. This also means that some parts of the photos are left out (you can verify this by zooming out on the 4/4S)

2. Fact #1, #4 and #5 lead to the conclusion that photos displayed on the iPhone 5 are scaled down to show all of the photo on the screen. The screen being wider than it is tall, it can easily be calculated that the iPhone 5 uses 640*4/3 = 853 (rounded down) pixels in height to show the photos, resulting in a resolution of 640x853.

3. Taking conclusions #1, #2 and fact #3 into account, it is hereby proven that based on the facts photos on the 4/4S are larger than they do on the iPhone 5. The 4/4S uses an extra (960-853)*640 = 68480 pixels to show photos than the 5, which corresponds to a 12% larger image on the 4/4S. The photos don't appear larger on the 4/4S, they are larger.

End of discussion. Upvoted myself.

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And now my own opinion: I kind of agree with the OP. Videos look absolutely stunning in widescreen on the iPhone 5. I also have a slight preference for widescreen photos, so I would appreciate it if Apple included an option to take widescreen photos (and thereby also throwing away a few pixels ofcourse). Or at least the options to view the photos in widescreen.
 
I don't know why people are asking screenshots, it's just math which anyone could reason to.

The facts:
1. iPhone 5 screen resolution: 640x1136
2. iPhone 4/4S screen resolution: 640x960
3. iPhone 4S and 5 have the same pixel density (326ppi)
4. iPhone photos aspect ratio: 4:3
5. iPhone 4/4S fills photos to screen, iPhone 5 does not

Conclusions:
1. Fact #2 and #5 lead to the conclusion that photos displayed on the iPhone 4/4S do so by using all the pixels; 640x960. This also means that some parts of the photos are left out (you can verify this by zooming out on the 4/4S)

2. Fact #1, #4 and #5 lead to the conclusion that photos displayed on the iPhone 5 are scaled down to show all of the photo on the screen. The screen being wider than it is tall, it can easily be calculated that the iPhone 5 uses 640*4/3 = 853 (rounded down) pixels in height to show the photos, resulting in a resolution of 640x853.

3. Taking conclusions #1, #2 and fact #3 into account, it is hereby proven that based on the facts photos on the 4/4S are larger than they do on the iPhone 5. The 4/4S uses an extra (960-853)*640 = 68480 pixels to show photos than the 5, which corresponds to a 12% larger image on the 4/4S. The photos don't appear larger on the 4/4S, they are larger.

End of discussion. Upvoted myself.

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And now my own opinion: I kind of agree with the OP. Videos look absolutely stunning in widescreen on the iPhone 5. I also have a slight preference for widescreen photos, so I would appreciate it if Apple included an option to take widescreen photos (and thereby also throwing away a few pixels ofcourse). Or at least the options to view the photos in widescreen.

Thanks for this, but does it not beg the question why Apple didn't do whatever was required so the photos taken on the iPhone 5 fill the new sized screen? As Samsung/HTC have done to ensure the photos fill their screens.
 
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Hi . I'm trying to post a pic for the OP to show the size difference but I'm a newbie & trying to post from my I Phone. There is an icon on the control panel but it asks for the URL Can I do this from the phone or should I go on the laptop
Any help would be appreciated thanks in advance
 
Thanks for this, but does it not beg the question why Apple didn't do whatever was required so the photos taken on the iPhone 5 fill the new sized screen? As Samsung/HTC have done to ensure the photos fill their screens.

I guess Apple thinks there's too much of a difference between 16:9 and 4:3, and they didn't think of this as a problem between 3:2 and 4:3.
 
If you're seeing large borders on the top and bottom you must be viewing landscape shots in a vertical position. If you rotate your phone to the orientation the photo was taken it will look better.

There will still be borders on the sides for those shots since the aspect ratio of the photos are 3:2 and the iPhone 5 screen is 16:9.

Here's a diagram I just found from an image search.
 

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Somehow I must be missing the point. If your camera sensor is one ratio and the screen is another then why would anyone believe that the picture will fit the screen perfectly? My camera (DSLR) sensor ratio is not the same as my display on my desktop ... somehow this just makes sense that the photo isn't filling every inch of the screen unless I zoom and essentially crop.
 
If you're seeing large borders on the top and bottom you must be viewing landscape shots in a vertical position. If you rotate your phone to the orientation the photo was taken it will look better.

There will still be borders on the sides for those shots since the aspect ratio of the photos are 3:2 and the iPhone 5 screen is 16:9.

Here's a diagram I just found from an image search.

No such luck for me I'm afraid, it really is that bad. My photo here is from its original vertical shot. The one below that is when I rotate the phone!






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Somehow I must be missing the point. If your camera sensor is one ratio and the screen is another then why would anyone believe that the picture will fit the screen perfectly?

Because it does on Galaxy and HTC phones.
 
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