iPhone XS Max Anyone Try the Galaxy S10 and Return Back to an iPhone?

[barondebxl]

I bought the S10e and boy am I happy. Im getting tired of big phones, the 10e is powerful yet manageable. It's not iPhone SE size but considering how big phobes have become it is perfect. I loved it and won't be using an iPhone at least until the iphone 11

 

[barondebxl]

I'm skipping the S series phone this year simply because my Note 9/S9+ is still doing it's job perfectly. I even still use my Note 8.

Samsing/Gogle has really perfected the OS since Oreo is there is absolutely no lag in any of these phones.

I did upgrade both my Note 9/S9+ to Pie but decided to go back to Oreo yesterday just because I prefer it over Pie.

I still have my two XS Max on AT&T and I grab any one of these iPhones/Android phones as my daily. I like switching between them and I have sims in all of them so I can just grab one and go.

That's the best, being able to switch back and forth and just enjoy the tech.

 

[ImAnAgent]

That's the best, being able to switch back and forth and just enjoy the tech.

I really love it. I sold my iPhone 8+ for $500 today and I think I'll sell my S9+ and the proceeds from those two phones will pay for more then half of the cost of the S10+.

I ordered a 1TB S10+ today and it will be here Thursday along with a case for it.

 

[barondebxl]

I really love it. I sold my iPhone 8+ for $500 today and I think I'll sell my S9+ and the proceeds from those two phones will pay for more then half of the cost of the S10+.

I ordered a 1TB S10+ today and it will be here Thursday along with a case for it.

You're winning!

 

[ImAnAgent]

You're winning!

Definitely. I honestly think my phone will be delayed until Friday due to the blizzard we had here in Denver Wednesday. The airport is still closed and the phone is coming from Texas through FedEx. It's only an extra day but it sucks when AT&T always overnights their phone orders.

 

[kawa636r]

I have opened a post on which i explain my unique reason that is making me impossible to switch to S10+

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...words-without-paying-for-a-1password.2173316/

 

[Cladster]

I have opened a post on which i explain my unique reason that is making me impossible to switch to S10+

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...words-without-paying-for-a-1password.2173316/

Its not unique, you are actually making good use of the Apple features and getting your moneys worth, Samsung don't have them so you ares till paying top dollar for less features.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Its not unique, you are actually making good use of the Apple features and getting your moneys worth, Samsung don't have them so you ares till paying top dollar for less features.

Samsung does have Samsung pass which also saves your log in details. The issue is getting all the passwords out of iCloud Keychain and into Samsung pass. It’s too time consuming and tedious to do one by one.

 

[paulro]

That's a 2015 perspective. There is no lag no more.

There definitely is lag on the S10 and all Samsung phones I've used. (S3,S4,A3, S8,S9+ and Note 9).

 

[torana355]

There definitely is lag on the S10 and all Samsung phones I've used. (S3,S4,A3, S8,S9+ and Note 9).

Define lag. Because if you think the s10 lags then every phone there is lags. My experience with the s10 is that there is zero lag.

 

[naturalguy]

That's a 2015 perspective. There is no lag no more.

There is. I had the Note 8 and an S9 recently and both wound up buggy and laggy after a few months. They are smooth out of the box but will lag aftera while. Sammy still has a long way to go in the software area

 

[ImAnAgent]

There is. I had the Note 8 and an S9 recently and both wound up buggy and laggy after a few months. They are smooth out of the box but will lag aftera while. Sammy still has a long way to go in the software area

I've noticed when I scroll through hundreds of pictures on instagram, the page begins to stutter most likely because the graphic intensive page is taxing the phones RAM. I don't get that when I use my Note 9/S9+. Even back when I owned a Note 4 and an iPhone 6 that year, the Note 4 performed better on those same pages on Instagram due to the Note 4 having more RAM. The instagram app would eventually crash on the iPhone.

My iPhone is the XS Max.

 

[chrismichael83]

I had the chance to get a Galaxy S10+ on Monday so I am still newer to android after being on iOS. While the hole punch design is a nice welcome change from the notch, I am still not too sure if I am keeping it. Android One UI is def much better than past Samsung skins and I do enjoy the more freedom I can have on my phone. The ability to have true multitasking, split screen apps, and PIP is a welcome addition. The downside of android for me is the messaging and navigation choices. If most of your friends and family are on on iOS then switching will not be great. iMessage is really Apple's only stronghold to people going to Android. Yes, if you have a Macbook, iPad, Watch etc it all works together but you can get buy. iMessage to me is the glue. Most of my family and friends are on iPhone and since having Android, messaging is just brutal. Long messages are broken up, pictures are ok coming through, forget sending videos or Airdropping large files to them. If you have no signal, forget about messaging them as you can still not chat over wifi. Yes I am aware of apps such as Telegram, Whatsapp etc but in order for you to get the full benefits, both sides have to be on the app. I am not going to ask 40 people to download an app just to talk to me and be able to send and receive large pictures and videos. I will give it a few more days but its looking like I will be back in the iOS camp. If iMessage went to android as a paid app, I would for sure then stick with Android.

 

[circatee]

To be honest, using LastPass is the way to go, from a security aspect.

But, I digress...

Samsung does have Samsung pass which also saves your log in details. The issue is getting all the passwords out of iCloud Keychain and into Samsung pass. It’s too time consuming and tedious to do one by one.

 

[MrGunnyPT]

I had the chance to get a Galaxy S10+ on Monday so I am still newer to android after being on iOS. While the hole punch design is a nice welcome change from the notch, I am still not too sure if I am keeping it. Android One UI is def much better than past Samsung skins and I do enjoy the more freedom I can have on my phone. The ability to have true multitasking, split screen apps, and PIP is a welcome addition. The downside of android for me is the messaging and navigation choices. If most of your friends and family are on on iOS then switching will not be great. iMessage is really Apple's only stronghold to people going to Android. Yes, if you have a Macbook, iPad, Watch etc it all works together but you can get buy. iMessage to me is the glue. Most of my family and friends are on iPhone and since having Android, messaging is just brutal. Long messages are broken up, pictures are ok coming through, forget sending videos or Airdropping large files to them. If you have no signal, forget about messaging them as you can still not chat over wifi. Yes I am aware of apps such as Telegram, Whatsapp etc but in order for you to get the full benefits, both sides have to be on the app. I am not going to ask 40 people to download an app just to talk to me and be able to send and receive large pictures and videos. I will give it a few more days but its looking like I will be back in the iOS camp. If iMessage went to android as a paid app, I would for sure then stick with Android.

I'm returning my note 9 for a iPhone XS because Android as a whole has tons of bluetooth connections issues for me.. That and some other couple of issues I'm finding such as apps not being as polished and just how the navigation on android works regarding browsers it's terrible.

 

[richard371]

Id like to try it but too many reasons why its not even a possibility.

1) all my friends are on Imessage. We just converted the last one a couple weeks ago. I don't want to make everyone turn green again.
2) I have the AW, Homepods, Airpods etc.
3) Android is a fragmented mess
4) Apple will most likely have a better phone in Sept.

Switching Eco systems at this point is a pain just to have the latest phone for a few months.

 

[circatee]

Well, in other news, I just turned on my iMessage and FaceTime (had it off since September 2018).
So, I doubt I will be switching anytime soon...

 

[nviz22]

I am trying the S10e for one final push now to see if I can get it to work long-term for me (1-2 years is long-term imo in smartphone usage).

Resale value is a huge contributor into my decision to likely stick with my iPhone. I can see the S10 or S10+ depreciating to the point where it is $ for $ value w/ the XS Max.

 

[44267547]

I am trying the S10e for one final push now to see if I can get it to work long-term for me (1-2 years is long-term imo in smartphone usage).

Resale value is a huge contributor into my decision to likely stick with my iPhone. I can see the S10 or S10+ depreciating to the point where it is $ for $ value w/ the XS Max.

You address a good point, and that’s a really crucial feature for the iPhone, is that it does have excellent resale value compared to android. It’s not that android is a bad phone per se, it’s just there iPhone has such a popular following, because they are supported for years through software and the hardware has traditionally been very good.

 

[nviz22]

You address a good point, and that’s a really crucial feature for the iPhone, is that it does have excellent resale value compared to android. It’s not that android is a bad phone per se, it’s just there iPhone has such a popular following, because they are supported for years through software and the hardware has traditionally been very good.

I wonder how much does extra years of support, say beyond 2 years, costs Android OEMs? I don't think many companies can follow Apple's model either. It's mainly an anomaly since they control their own hardware integration and software integration.

I was talking to a family member that purchased an iPhone 8 for like $350 w/ a $200 gift card on clearance along with the S9 on clearance since he uses a work and personal line. He told me his S9 has started to have some noticeable stutters compared to the iPhone 8. The S9 is running Oreo, but I suggested updating to Pie w/ Samsung's One UI for stability.

It's kinda weird how a phone w/ 2gb RAM could run better than a phone w/4gb RAM based off a spec sheet, especially with the iPhone 8 and Samsung's older software. It's probably an even more noticeable difference between a Pixel 2 and a iPhone 8.

 

[FFR]

I am trying the S10e for one final push now to see if I can get it to work long-term for me (1-2 years is long-term imo in smartphone usage).

Resale value is a huge contributor into my decision to likely stick with my iPhone. I can see the S10 or S10+ depreciating to the point where it is $ for $ value w/ the XS Max.

I would never buy a Samsung galaxy phone during its launch. Samsung’s resale value drops like a rock, about 50% after the first month.

“Based on the depreciation patterns of the S5, S6, S7 and S8, musicMagpie has revealed that the S9 will likely lose a whopping 50% of its value in the first month alone. Samsung’s previous flagship device, the Galaxy S8, which had a retail price of £689, lost 49% of its value in the first month after launch, and then dropped by another 2-3% every month after that. By nine months old, it had lost 65% of its value.”

https://www.alphr.com/samsung/1008532/samsung-galaxy-s9-lose-half-value

And with reports that the s10 sales is coming in below last years disastrous s9, resale value might plummet lower and/or faster when compared to previous galaxy phones.

Another prediction that the s10 will lose half its value after the first month.

“bankmycell comes to the conclusion that the S10 will follow a similar trajectory, with an expected value depreciation of about half its value after the first month of its release.”

https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-phones-value-depreciation-iphone/


iPhones dont seem to suffer from the same drop in value

“Focusing on the latest iPhones, it looks as though the iPhone XS Max lost 15 percent of its original resale value through the first quarter of retail availability. The iPhone XS lost 13 percent while the iPhone XR dropped 5 percent. “

https://pocketnow.com/iphones-over-galaxy-launch-earlier-trade-in

 

[nviz22]

I would never buy a Samsung galaxy phone during its launch. Samsung’s resale value drops like a rock, about 50% after the first month.

“Based on the depreciation patterns of the S5, S6, S7 and S8, musicMagpie has revealed that the S9 will likely lose a whopping 50% of its value in the first month alone. Samsung’s previous flagship device, the Galaxy S8, which had a retail price of £689, lost 49% of its value in the first month after launch, and then dropped by another 2-3% every month after that. By nine months old, it had lost 65% of its value.”

https://www.alphr.com/samsung/1008532/samsung-galaxy-s9-lose-half-value

And with reports that the s10 sales is coming in below last years disastrous s9, resale value might plummet lower and/or faster when compared to previous galaxy phones.

Another prediction that the s10 will lose half its value after the first month.

“bankmycell comes to the conclusion that the S10 will follow a similar trajectory, with an expected value depreciation of about half its value after the first month of its release.”

https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-phones-value-depreciation-iphone/


iPhones dont seem to suffer from the same drop in value

“Focusing on the latest iPhones, it looks as though the iPhone XS Max lost 15 percent of its original resale value through the first quarter of retail availability. The iPhone XS lost 13 percent while the iPhone XR dropped 5 percent. “

https://pocketnow.com/iphones-over-galaxy-launch-earlier-trade-in

But those reports are tied into trade in values. I typically sell old phones. Right now, the S10e is probably worth about $600-$650 since that's the going rate unlocked at Best Buy here in the US.

 

[secretk]

I wonder how much does extra years of support, say beyond 2 years, costs Android OEMs? I don't think many companies can follow Apple's model either. It's mainly an anomaly since they control their own hardware integration and software integration.

I would say it depends on the customization of Android every manufacturer does. The more the manufacturer does on top of Android, the more it takes to adapt to each new Android version. Then I would say it's also about having people. I am not sure what is the ratio of people using iPhones vs Android phones but even if it's pretty even there are a lot of Android brands and on the other hand it's only Apple. I would say that maybe only Google and Samsung can have that much people to support such upgrades as Apple.

I was talking to a family member that purchased an iPhone 8 for like $350 w/ a $200 gift card on clearance along with the S9 on clearance since he uses a work and personal line. He told me his S9 has started to have some noticeable stutters compared to the iPhone 8. The S9 is running Oreo, but I suggested updating to Pie w/ Samsung's One UI for stability.

I have no experience with newest Samsung phones but IMO quite often the lagging is related not Android themselves but to the customization the manufacturers does. I have been using Sony phones (two) for the last 4 years. I used the first one for almost 3 years and the second is now almost a year. Sony offers Android version upgrade for only 2 years. In other words if you buy a phone for a version X then you will get upgrades for X+1 and 2 and that's it. You do get security updates regularly though.

It's kinda weird how a phone w/ 2gb RAM could run better than a phone w/4gb RAM based off a spec sheet, especially with the iPhone 8 and Samsung's older software. It's probably an even more noticeable difference between a Pixel 2 and a iPhone 8.

Might be true for Samsung, but definitely not the case for my Sony devices. My Sony device (2017 model, same as my iPhone 8) does not lag at all and even has better performance (due to better RAM management) than my iPhone. My iPhone struggles with 2 GB RAM and reloads tabs in Safari and apps each 30 minutes and that for me is annoying. For reference my Sony device might have 4 GB RAM but uses on average 2.2 or 2.3 GB.

However again this hugely depends on the actual Android brand you have.

Now to answer your question on how much I care about Android upgrades. I don't because for me from Android 6 above I get just slight improvements and tweaks. I feel that with Android 6 Google achieved what I needed so as long as I have phone that his this version I am OK.

On the other hand I encounter iOS bugs (I am on iOS 12.1.4) both in my iPad and iPhone. Bugs that hinder my productivity and that are not minor for me. I would prefer for Apple to work better on quality and stability because I am definitely not impressed. I am a new iOS user. I bought my first iOS device last year September (iPad). Then the company gave me work iPhone just a month ago. I encounter bugs in Apple apps (Notes, Files app, Camera) in both devices. Especially the Files app is regularly unresponsive. Given that I use both my iPad and my iPhone for work for me this is a major bug.

So as of now I prefer less updates with Android (as this gives me stable version) than having constant updates that bring me bugs (iOS).

I agree though that honestly right now switching platforms is more about the ecosystem than anything else. This is why I never rely on an ecosystem. That is not a plus for me, it's a restriction I want to avoid. I want to be able to easily switch platforms so I always choose to use apps that are available as much as possible on all platforms.

 

[FFR]

But those reports are tied into trade in values. I typically sell old phones. Right now, the S10e is probably worth about $600-$650 since that's the going rate unlocked at Best Buy here in the US.

The reports are tied to depreciation in value, it doesn’t matter whether you trade it or sell it.

Yes your s10e is worth 600-650 because your still within your return period and within the first month of s10 sales.
That won’t last.

 

[nviz22]

The reports are tied to depreciation in value, it doesn’t matter whether you trade it or sell it.

Yes your s10e is worth 600-650 because your still within your return period and within the first month of s10 sales.
That won’t last.

True, it won't always be that price range. Yes, the iPhone X could be worth like $640 in good condition on Swappa while a Note 8 is $380 in the same condition. I get that Samsung phones depreciate much faster than iPhones.

However, I think the 50% depreciation is more towards the trade in value side. It's not about whether if depreciation is sizable or not, it's about the % imo. If I could sell my phone for a 15% depreciation after 3 months vs trading in my phone for a 30% depreciation, that's a decent difference.
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I would say it depends on the customization of Android every manufacturer does. The more the manufacturer does on top of Android, the more it takes to adapt to each new Android version. Then I would say it's also about having people. I am not sure what is the ratio of people using iPhones vs Android phones but even if it's pretty even there are a lot of Android brands and on the other hand it's only Apple. I would say that maybe only Google and Samsung can have that much people to support such upgrades as Apple.



I have no experience with newest Samsung phones but IMO quite often the lagging is related not Android themselves but to the customization the manufacturers does. I have been using Sony phones (two) for the last 4 years. I used the first one for almost 3 years and the second is now almost a year. Sony offers Android version upgrade for only 2 years. In other words if you buy a phone for a version X then you will get upgrades for X+1 and 2 and that's it. You do get security updates regularly though.



Might be true for Samsung, but definitely not the case for my Sony devices. My Sony device (2017 model, same as my iPhone 8) does not lag at all and even has better performance (due to better RAM management) than my iPhone. My iPhone struggles with 2 GB RAM and reloads tabs in Safari and apps each 30 minutes and that for me is annoying. For reference my Sony device might have 4 GB RAM but uses on average 2.2 or 2.3 GB.

However again this hugely depends on the actual Android brand you have.

Now to answer your question on how much I care about Android upgrades. I don't because for me from Android 6 above I get just slight improvements and tweaks. I feel that with Android 6 Google achieved what I needed so as long as I have phone that his this version I am OK.

On the other hand I encounter iOS bugs (I am on iOS 12.1.4) both in my iPad and iPhone. Bugs that hinder my productivity and that are not minor for me. I would prefer for Apple to work better on quality and stability because I am definitely not impressed. I am a new iOS user. I bought my first iOS device last year September (iPad). Then the company gave me work iPhone just a month ago. I encounter bugs in Apple apps (Notes, Files app, Camera) in both devices. Especially the Files app is regularly unresponsive. Given that I use both my iPad and my iPhone for work for me this is a major bug.

So as of now I prefer less updates with Android (as this gives me stable version) than having constant updates that bring me bugs (iOS).

I agree though that honestly right now switching platforms is more about the ecosystem than anything else. This is why I never rely on an ecosystem. That is not a plus for me, it's a restriction I want to avoid. I want to be able to easily switch platforms so I always choose to use apps that are available as much as possible on all platforms.

Samsung might end up turning a new leaf now, so I am willing to give them time to see if they keep One UI consistent 6-12 months from now. Nothing is impervious to bugs. iOS 11 was a trashy mess relative to iOS 12, imo. iOS 13 could be much more feature fledged, so I expect Apple to be more polished going forward.