That’s just crazy! I guess I don‘t get the brag. Who would be impressed by that?!
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iPhone 16/Plus AOD and 120Hz refresh rate are not Pro features…
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I don’t understand this at all - how does your EV need your display to always be on to unlock it? Isn’t unlocking done via NFC?
AOD leaves BT on.
BT range is about 30' from my EV and works only if AOD is on.
Now my 16 Pro works by just walking within range.
Bluetooth stays on no matter the state of the display; else how would I listen to music on my bluetooth headphones when the iphone is in my pocket and the display is off?
Buy used and they won't get your money. Let them know you don't like the way they're treating us
Buying used just frees up the seller to buy a new iPhone 😁
Not if they're a refurb shop or if it's a person that buys an android. That really doesn't make sense
With OP's theory the base should be pro, and the pro should be super pro or something. There obviously has to be features missing, those features cost money hence you get the 16 if you want a lower price point
With Apple products, "Pro" ≠ "for professionals." "Pro" = "nicer." That's it.
If Apple's entry-level product doesn't meet your needs, you can pay more for a product that does, or you can buy something else. Yes, it would be nice if every feature you're interested in would come to the entry-level product, but that day probably won't ever arrive. Rest assured, however, that if Apple makes the exact product you think they should, there will be another person posting on this forum about how Apple is charging too much for what you get. And so it has been for 40 years and will be for 40 more.
Bluetooth stays on even with the screen off and our EV still connects to both mine and my wife’s phones. Apple Watches connect to our phones constantly via Bluetooth.
I’ve got a 16 Pro Max and one of the first things I did was disable AOD as I don’t need it. This hasn’t impacted connection with any of our devices or vehicles.
If 17/17 Plus are to get the ProMotion displays then the 17 Pro/Max has to either move to a "next-generation ProMotion" display or they have to get some other high-end spec that the non-Pros won't get for the next 3-10 years.
This could be exceptionally great camera array, under-display Face ID and front-facing camera, next generation battery technology with 2x day battery life compared to mid-tier, etc.
..Aaaan, just like clockwork, either this "next-generation ProMotion" or the next high-value Pro-only spec will, yet again, have you saying "This is awful! There's no reason the non-Pros can't have *insert high-value Pro-only spec*. Why do the non-Pros have been stuck with *insert lower-value mid-tier spec* for so long? Gee, I wonder why Apple does this? Could this also be why they remove last year's Pro from the line-up when the new one drops?"
-If you want "Pro" specs at mid-tier price then just buy last year's Pro/Pro Max. Apple profits the most from you forgetting about last year's Pro and feeling like you'll fall over if you don't have every "Pro" spec here and now.
This could be exceptionally great camera array, under-display Face ID and front-facing camera, next generation battery technology with 2x day battery life compared to mid-tier, etc.
..Aaaan, just like clockwork, either this "next-generation ProMotion" or the next high-value Pro-only spec will, yet again, have you saying "This is awful! There's no reason the non-Pros can't have *insert high-value Pro-only spec*. Why do the non-Pros have been stuck with *insert lower-value mid-tier spec* for so long? Gee, I wonder why Apple does this? Could this also be why they remove last year's Pro from the line-up when the new one drops?"
-If you want "Pro" specs at mid-tier price then just buy last year's Pro/Pro Max. Apple profits the most from you forgetting about last year's Pro and feeling like you'll fall over if you don't have every "Pro" spec here and now.
I think the bottom line this is the way Apple segments its product line. You can get the top of the line for last years tech at a decent price. In spite of the grousing that goes on here at launch time Apple has not made any changes to the way it apportions features in it’s product lineup.
So it’s safe to assume they will not implement these suggestions.
So it’s safe to assume they will not implement these suggestions.
Nice. Haven’t gotten to check it out yet, skipping this one, sounds like a trip to the Apple Store is due very soon
People forget “Pro” is just another marketing phrase used by Apple, quite successfully. Feature differences designed to upsell consumers are marketing and capitalism 101. Companies that are upfront, like Apple are much better than those who try to hide those differences in marketing speak.
Then, can you explain why my 14+ could never unlock my EV ?
With my old 14+ I would have to unlock the phone, and then open the app (Ford Pass) to unlock.
My 14PM always unlocks as soon as I step within range ?
New 16 Pro now unlocks automatically....
No, not quite. I'm not opposed to Pro features. Better zoom camera - Pro. Mini Led screen - Pro. Three cameras vs two - Pro. AOD and 120HZ are only Pro features in Apples universe where apparently they are running out of ideas that are actually "Pro'.
Apparently the laughing smiling face was snarky? My point remains regardless of how you took it. The persons comment I was responding to was thread drift....
I fail to see why 120hz screens need to be a default feature for all phones. As far as I can tell, it’s largely a gimmick.
Some people claim to notice a difference, and there are some specific use cases for it, so I’m not arguing it shouldn’t exist! If Android handset manufacturers are adding across the board, so what? This phone is better than that phone because it has bigger numbers on its stat sheet, like a PC from the 90s!
I would like to see the AOD make it to the regular line-up, then I’d have less to tempt me towards a Pro when I next upgrade my phone.
Some people claim to notice a difference, and there are some specific use cases for it, so I’m not arguing it shouldn’t exist! If Android handset manufacturers are adding across the board, so what? This phone is better than that phone because it has bigger numbers on its stat sheet, like a PC from the 90s!
I would like to see the AOD make it to the regular line-up, then I’d have less to tempt me towards a Pro when I next upgrade my phone.
I mean, not really. Pros want the best camera, because there are now movies being shot with the pro phones. The features of the non pro model are more than enough for the vast majority of people, otherwise they wouldn’t sell
I think we're talking at cross purposes here. When I wrote that "pro" ≠ "for professionals," what I meant is that, when Apple designs a "Pro" phone, it is not designing a device with features "professionals" use at the exclusion of non-professionals. It's just a "nicer" phone with some better specs.
First of all, what would it even mean to be a professional iPhone user? I think you've decided it's professional videographers. What if it's someone who's on phone calls all day? What if it's someone making social media posts for marketing campaigns? What if it's a doctor looking at radiography imaging? What if it's a pianist recording her performances? What if it's someone building fences and measuring with the LiDAR sensor all day? There are so many ways people who are professionals in their fields use iPhones. Lots of those people use regular iPhones, and lots of those people use Pro iPhones.
But Apple isn't building the "iPhone Pro" for a subset of professionals. Sure, Apple will tell a story about how professional videographers *could* use the iPhone Pro camera, but that's a marketing story. Apple isn't designing phones for pro use cases at the exclusion of other uses. And pro videographers aren't using the iPhone very often. Every year, it's a better video camera, but it's not nearly as good as dedicated cameras. The iPhone still camera is a decent point-and-click camera, but it's not nearly as good as a dedicated photography camera. As someone who goes to sporting events on a near weekly basis, I have never, in my life, seen a professional photographer shoot with an iPhone. But even if there are some sports photographers out there with iPhones, it's a small minority. iPhone Pro cameras aren't for professionals; they're just nicer (aka, a little bit better) than standard iPhones. The same thing is true for Macs and iPads.
TLDR: There's really no technology in a "Pro" Apple device that lets a "professional" do something meaningful that they can't do with a non-pro Apple device. They can generally do the same things with any level of Apple product, but the "Pro" products generally do them a little faster and with a little less effort from the user. That may or may not be worth the extra cost to you.
No thanks.
They are top of the line, most-expensive-version-of-the-product features. That's what they are, that's what they're intended as. You getting hung up on the word "Pro" is just you not understanding how marketing works.
Apple has top of the line iPhones with the most features, and mid tier iPhones with less features. People who would rather spend less than get the most, get what passes for mid tier.
The fact that these particular features are not "new" anymore is what irritates some people, as "old" features used to trickle down to mid and low tier products once there was something new to replace them. But there isn't much new to replace them, so they remain at the top. They will trickle down only when there is something new to take their place, and their perceived value decreases. Or, when Apple gets a new CEO that revamps the product line and stops nickle and diming people.
Same as Macbook Pro vs Macbook Air.
Before Apple silicon, all Intel models varied by performance.
I had a MBP top tier, CTO/BTO model for running graphics & CPU intensive work.
Now that Apple Silicon is here, I don't see any difference - my BASE lowest cost MBA 15" with M2 (8GB RAM) runs circles around my laggy, hot, throttled Intel MBP w/ i7, 32GB RAM....