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I think they're terrified that when they bring 120Hz to the base model iPhones their ASP is going to drop significantly, with many more people opting away from the Pro phones. Many people, including myself, consider ProMotion to be the feature that holds them in the Pro line. They need to bring another 'Can't Live Without' feature to the Pro models before they bring ProMotion to the base phones.
ProMotion is the only things that keeps me on the Pro line too. That and the battery life. There’s no way I could go back to using an iPhone without it.
 
They have no reason to. Most people don't even know what that stuff is. Those that do, have to spend a bit more for the pro. Why change it? I sure wouldn't mind if they introduced some other amazing feature that differentiates the pro from the standard model beyond just cameras and a better chip, but until they come up with something, what they're doing makes sense.
 
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They have no reason to. Most people don't even know what that stuff is. Those that do, have to spend a bit more for the pro. Why change it? I sure wouldn't mind if they introduced some other amazing feature that differentiates the pro from the standard model beyond just cameras and a better chip, but until they come up with something, what they're doing makes sense.
Again, it doesn’t matter if people like it, use it, or don’t know what it is. It should be included in 2024 especially at $800. They are both standard features.
 
^^^ Well stat

Yes they are.
At least according to Apple. And Apple makes the phones and markets them under that monicker so that's that.

Arguably, and you may not agree that's fine, AOD and 120Hz displays are things that most users couldn't care less about or even notice. To keep costs down and make a phone for the masses Apple choose to make them part of the more expensive pro line.
Its mostly noisy YouTubers that jump up and down insisting that Apple makes 120hz and AOD standard across all the models.

Yes, there may be other phones out that that come 'as standard' with AOD and 120hz but that doesn't mean that Apple are forced to choose to make them features of the base level phone.

As many things, pro stuff trickles down to the non pros but for a while and possibly for a while longer AOD and 120Hz remains pro for Apple. Be patient as its happened with many things such as Face ID and the action button.

One thing to remember is that in the current iteration there is very little to separate the pro from the non pro certainly where the processor comes in. Apple need their top tier display tech exclusive to the pro otherwise what else do they have apart from titanium and another camera?
This is exactly the problem! Apples “Top tier display tech” 😂.….what apart DO they have? 120hz and AOD are not “Top teir tech”.

If Apple can’t put AOD and 120HZ on base model phones because there’s nothing else to distinguish them from the Pros, there’s something wrong.
 
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Interesting that you own a Pro but are concerned so much about the non Pro models. Based on your original post I wrongly assumed you owned a non Pro and were disappointed at the lack of features.
Yes, because it would benefit all consumers. I’d also like the form factor/weight savings of the IPhone 16 Plus but I’m not spending $800 on a phone that’s 5 years behind on basic features. It might also help to push Apple to come up with other features that are actually ”pro” to differentiate the models.
 
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Its nonsense..

Features such as recording in spatial, Dolby Vision, multi channel audio and hardware features such as Lidar and even camera control should be reserved for the Pro model. It should be a chunkier phone with a larger battery because it should be designed for pro/semi pro content creation.
The standard iPhone should be the best iPhone Apple can make.. features such as Pro-Motion and AOD benefit the general consumer more than the individual who uses the iPhone (professionally) as a still or movie camera.
So much this!
 
Again, it doesn’t matter if people like it, use it, or don’t know what it is. It should be included in 2024 especially at $800. They are both standard features.

We can argue about "should" all we want. There's no business reason to do it right now. $800 is pretty cheap for a smartphone these days. It's going to be lacking some features. If not this, then it'd be something else.
 
So many people on here are so caught up in, well I don’t like it, I won’t use it, it won’t make a difference for me cause I can’t see it, or I turn it off anyways to supporting Apple‘s position of, why change it’s working for them!

What we should want, is for Apple to do the best they can making the best product they can for us consumers. We (at least myself isn’t) are probably not board member shareholders.
 
We can argue about "should" all we want. There's no business reason to do it right now. $800 is pretty cheap for a smartphone these days. It's going to be lacking some features. If not this, then it'd be something else.
Stop supporting Apple and support the consumer.
 
Agree with you, OP. I actually don't care about AOD, but ProMotion would be hard to lose. I have a base, gray 13 Pro. My next iPhone won't be a Pro. This phone is too good (for my use) to get rid of in the next 1 - 2 years and I'm sure by the time I need to upgrade, ProMotion (or whatever it's called on non-Pro iPhones) won't just be on the Pro phones.
 
Interesting that you own a Pro but are concerned so much about the non Pro models. Based on your original post I wrongly assumed you owned a non Pro and were disappointed at the lack of features.

A lot of us use Pros but don’t like to see the standard models short change people. They are after all what most people use and drive the popularity of iPhone among users.
 
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I understand why they do it. I’m just saying it’s not a “Pro” feature. It’s pretty bad if Apple has come to the point where, in order to get you to buy the more expensive phone, the defining feature is AOD and 120Hz. To me, that means they are running out of ideas.
Are they running out of ideas or is the base iPhone just a great phone with a worse display.
Because on the contrary, how can Apple differentiate their phones otherwise if they have near feature parody, because yes, the 16 is the 16 Pro with half the Hertz (and AOD and one less camera), the rest is as identical as it gets.
But, obviously, they can’t offer fewer models but can also not gimp the base model too much, that’s why it got the DI and AB and CC and will get AI or A AI, all this stuff, so the screen is the most obvious sacrifice.
Yes, it’s not a pro feature,
but that’s the way it’s always been ain’t it.
Fans in Laptops arent pro features either.
 
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Man, I must be the only person that thinks a dedicated button to camera control since cameras are one of the main features on iPhone is awesome. I like the placement of it, functionality seems cool, and I’m excited to try it out and have it next year on 17 Pro Max.

FYI - the placement of the camera control button is to subtly get you to start taking landscape spatial photos and videos for the emergence of Apple Vision as it grows in the coming years. If you didn’t know or realize that, now you do.
You’re not alone. Camera control is awesome and should’ve been there a long time ago. Apple knows best.

Furthermore, turn the phone so the camera control is on the bottom. Having the phone in landscape mode where camera control is on top works, but when you turn the phone so CC is accessible with your thumb makes a huge difference.
 
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Again, it doesn’t matter if people like it, use it, or don’t know what it is. It should be included in 2024 especially at $800. They are both standard features.
Standard features? Hate to break it to ya, but they are NOT standard features as it relates to the pro and non-pro line. Apple makes a lot of money. They know best in terms of what will maximize their profits.

Unfortunately, you’re comparing other brands and completely different products to justify your argument of “what’s standard.” Apple decides. Not you.
 
Standard features? Hate to break it to ya, but they are NOT standard features as it relates to the pro and non-pro line. Apple makes a lot of money. They know best in terms of what will maximize their profits.

Unfortunately, you’re comparing other brands and completely different products to justify your argument of “what’s standard.” Apple decides. Not you.
Those other brands make up the vast majority of the global market so our iPhones are exclusive to Apple, but lack some features in the mid tier that are standard across what other brands offer at more reasonable price points. The fact Apple have used AOD on their watches for 5 years but can't put this on an iPhone 16/16Plus which costs £799 to £1199 is rather absurd in 2024. This along with 90/120hz is standard across the mobile sector at price points £300+ so of course its reasonable to suggest what is standard and include Apple when they are withholding features to differentiate between models for profit. Even many of Apple's preferred YouTubers and tech reviewers highlight these two features as an expectation across the range now.
 
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This thread proves the 2 features are desirable, you just don't want to pay the "apple tax". Other brands have more storage and ram at lower prices cause there is no "apple tax".
 
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Honestly at least 90 hz would of been great and kept everybody happy, it sad that prepaid free phones also have oled and 90 hz now. Only think keeping apple on top right now is their app optimization for social media comapred to android.
 
I definitely understand wanting more features for the same price. Personally I don’t fault Apple for dangling a carrot to entice people to spend more. To me, the $200 price difference is easy to justify for something you use every day for years. I’ve always thought the non Pro iPhones are targeted toward folks who don’t know what AOD is or could never tell the difference in refreshing rates.
I think you are right but when it comes to apple customers some people dont even know what 120 hz or aod is and just want the most expensive iphone to brag. I worked at metro by tmobile store and some customer didnt even knew the model but just said to me give the one that just came out but the most expensive with 3 cameras.
 
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