App Store Stopped 1.6 Million 'Risky' and 'Untrustworthy' Apps From Defrauding Users, Says Apple

dk001 said:
It would have a bigger (for Apple) impact if Apple said “Here are the numbers. We will give the data to anyone to verify our results.”
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Really? Because folks who don’t believe these numbers in an infographic WILL believe them if they’re in a spreadsheet? LOL
 
jakey rolling said:
Are there still retailers using "swipe" machines in the US? I haven't encountered one still in use anywhere in Canada in at least five years (probably closer to ten). It's all chip-and-pin or tap here.


Apple doesn't take responsibility. They pass the chargeback on to the developer. As does every other app store in existence today.
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Yes, I’ve been to a few small gas stations that only do swipe.

and

Even more reason for this stat, Apple saying they stopped fraudulent charges, should be a plus for developers that didn’t get a chargeback.
 
dk001 said:
It would have a bigger (for Apple) impact if Apple said “Here are the numbers. We will give the data to anyone to verify our results.”
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It would never be enough for many here. I can imagine the whines about the numbers being fake, rigged, demanding more detail, proof, and full of whattabouts, etc.

I'm sure Apple will have no problem providing numbers and methods to Congress with full explanations as they'll likely be asked for them.
 
Expos of 1969 said:
Wake up people. Do you not find it odd that these bogus stats are published when Apple's App Store is being justifiably attacked by numerous governments and regulatory bodies?
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"Thus, the Court finds that centralized distribution through the App Store increases security in the “narrow” sense, primarily by thwarting social engineering attacks."
"Thus, the Court finds that app distribution restrictions increase security in the “broad” sense by allowing Apple to filter fraud, objectionable content, and piracy during app review while imposing heightened requirements for privacy." — Case 4:20-cv-05640-YGR Document 812 Filed 09/10/21
 
BootsWalking said:
"343,000 apps were rejected for various privacy violations."

At the same time Apple collects $11 Billion/year from Google to harvest iPhone users' privacy from searches. The hypocrisy is astounding.
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Why? Google Search is by far the biggest and best search engine in the world. The market has spoken and most users apparently don’t care. Otherwise Google would not be that big. And you do have plenty of options to limit tracking.

Removing Google Search would have a huge (perceived) negative impact on users. Removing some obscure app doesn’t.

And one can do a lot with 11 billion. Like raising the bar in other domains, even if it costs them money or users. And maybe Apple is developing its own search engine. We don’t know.
 
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BootsWalking said:
"343,000 apps were rejected for various privacy violations."

At the same time Apple collects $11 Billion/year from Google to harvest iPhone users' privacy from searches. The hypocrisy is astounding.
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I almost missed this gem. You do realize Safari has built-in privacy protections? All Google can do is harvest general information on the iPhone populous. They won't see your specific choices/likes/searches, etc. Now more than ever if you have Private Relay.
 
mi7chy said:
Has anyone verified this claim? Last time I looked for an app there were so many fakes that I gave up since it wasn't clear which was the real one.

Update: Worse today than it was before. Not only fake apps but banned apps. ES File Explorer was banned from Google Play Store in 2019 but ended up on Apple App Store so it's the graveyard of banned Android apps.

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I don't know about this specific app but don't take that ban from Google as it is a malicious app and always will be. I've dealt with both and Apple (at least for all my apps) has mostly worked with the dev to resolve issues however Google is ruthless three strikes kinda deal and no legitimate escalation process.
 
Macative said:
The store is almost never involved in fraudulent charges. It is entirely worked out between the user and their bank. Target isn't going to step in and prevent fraud.
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Bull, or stores like Target would not have fraud prevention departments... or is your assertion that fraud prevention does not step in and prevent fraud?
The fact is that card issuers can and do put an onus on the merchant to mitigate fraud risks - by having chip readers, verifying signatures, requiring the physical card, verifying ID, etc.
 
macduke said:
Easy. Have a toggle in settings to turn off these protections. You have to input your device passcode to continue as a second confirmation. Have a scary warning message saying that the device will be out of warranty and that the user is now responsible for any fraudulent activity that happens on their device. Then everything just unlocks.

By default, everyone will be protected. The 1% of people who actually care about this will be able to turn off all of the system protections. Everyone will be happy. And give parental controls to block kids from being able to do this, because I won't let my kids do this and I won't recommend it to any of my family or friends.

It's fun to jailbreak old devices. I've done this before. I might try this again on an old device that doesn't have access to my personal info. But as a technical user who understands the security implications, I would never do this on my daily driver. That's just stupid.
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Jailbreaks require using security holes and exploits. Having a toggle that makes legitimate users jump through hoops does not negate the creation of a potential attack vector that can be used against unwitting users writ large (eg, through exploiting privilege escalation and other means, using the sensors to "listen in" and extrapolate passcodes, etc).
 
firewood said:
What’s the incentive for any 3rd party to spend as much money and staff time as Apple, looking deeply into a vast number of apps for potential security and fraud issues?

Apple can spend many many $millions, as this makes lots of customers feel more comfortable pumping $Billions into app purchases.
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What? Apple actually has to spend money to maintain their store? And they *gasp!* make a profit off of it? Those... what's the word?... oh yeah, capitalists!
 
bookofxero said:
Jailbreaks require using security holes and exploits. Having a toggle that makes legitimate users jump through hoops does not negate the creation of a potential attack vector that can be used against unwitting users writ large (eg, through exploiting privilege escalation and other means, using the sensors to "listen in" and extrapolate passcodes, etc).
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Agreed. Having a said hole actually aids in the ability to given that malicious code can be executed under sheep's skin.
 
bookofxero said:
Bull, or stores like Target would not have fraud prevention departments... or is your assertion that fraud prevention does not step in and prevent fraud?
The fact is that card issuers can and do put an onus on the merchant to mitigate fraud risks - by having chip readers, verifying signatures, requiring the physical card, verifying ID, etc.
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You mean the Target that suffered one of the worse data hacks of credit card data not that long ago?
 
macfacts said:
Yes I do ?
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What’s your basis for believing they are misrepresenting the facts? Oh you don’t have one?

There will always be people who don’t believe what is in front of them. Personally, I haven’t been hacked, had money stolen, phished, or any other nefarious activity. I’m an Apple user of many products and whilst I’m vigilant, I feel much safer with an App Store run by Apple than some open marketplace. Now if you want to talk about danger, it’s right there, not with Apple IMO.
 
steve09090 said:
What’s your basis for believing they are misrepresenting the facts? Oh you don’t have one?

There will always be people who don’t believe what is in front of them. Personally, I haven’t been hacked, had money stolen, phished, or any other nefarious activity. I’m an Apple user of many products and whilst I’m vigilant, I feel much safer with an App Store run by Apple than some open marketplace. Now if you want to talk about danger, it’s right there, not with Apple IMO.
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You just feel safer, you aren't actually safer.
 
steve09090 said:
What’s your basis for believing they are misrepresenting the facts? Oh you don’t have one?

There will always be people who don’t believe what is in front of them. Personally, I haven’t been hacked, had money stolen, phished, or any other nefarious activity. I’m an Apple user of many products and whilst I’m vigilant, I feel much safer with an App Store run by Apple than some open marketplace. Now if you want to talk about danger, it’s right there, not with Apple IMO.
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I see no facts, show them to us, these are just a few spewed out numbers, nothing more.

Instead there are uncountable facts that proves how Apple is gatekeeping and misusing their position to knockout the competition and protect their profits.

But yeah a very detailed database dump to back-up their statements is much more difficult to fake than some fairytale values.
 
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Wildkraut said:
I see no facts, show them to us, these are just a few spewed out numbers, nothing more.

Instead there are uncountable facts that proves how Apple is gatekeeping and misusing their position to knockout the competition and protect their profits.

But yeah a huge database dump is much more difficult to fake than some fairytale values.
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So you’re saying that Apple won’t have any basis for their claims, yet it is soooo easy to refute it by saying they are lying. With no basis for saying that. If that’s not the pot calling the kettle black. So sick of the trolls.
 
steve09090 said:
So you’re saying that Apple won’t have any basis for their claims, yet it is soooo easy to refute it by saying they are lying. With no basis for saying that. If that’s not the pot calling the kettle black. So sick of the trolls.
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As long they don’t prove it, i won’t believe, once a lier always a lier. They lied a lot in their history and recently. Starting with PowerPC vs Intel performance stats, iPhone performance battery throttling, false privacy intentions and AppStore gatekeeping, etc.
 
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